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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 15, 2006 11:18:57 GMT -5
Too much Viagra
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Post by WarningU2 on May 29, 2006 5:32:37 GMT -5
No requirement in the rules from my read to reload the game.
With the current hot join in CIV4 this has changed the dynamics of the game with regard to the ladder. I think I discussed this issue very early on.
I think we need to have the a reload mandated when players are unable to join the game in situations where hot join has got confused and thinks the player is still in the game.
If after that reload has been attempted at least once, then everything has been done to try to bring the player in question back. And then unfortunately if that one player is unable to join then the player will need to report as he/she is not able to complete the game. Or if early on then perhaps a scrap is warranted if all players agree.
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Post by WarningU2 on May 28, 2006 22:46:38 GMT -5
Well it comes down to yeah we checked but the player is not able to join. I think just like in CIV3 we need players to reload the game and that is not happening.
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Post by WarningU2 on May 26, 2006 9:09:28 GMT -5
Back to the topic ... As I'm doing non reports this month I am getting a number of players who say that they tried to reconnect to the game but the game was full. They object to reporting when they couldn't get in the game because of a game issue. This is even after they have password protected their civ.
Besides the arguement on having to report I am curious as I have not been playing CIV4 enough recently to know how to resolve this ... is there a way to rejoin a game in this situation ? Does anyone understand why this happens ? Should the players reload the game ?
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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 4, 2006 22:25:24 GMT -5
It is the same for me connection wise as before the patch. I will say the lobby has vastly improved but I wish there was a way of filtering the games.
I play little except on the weekend, and after several attempts last week that aborted I only ended up playing one game.
I find it's not just the peer circle jerk - its actually getting started after the launch is my problem now. The timer just sits at 1:07. Alt-N will show 0 ping to players and you are foobared. You need to restart at least once to launch successfully (advance the timer). Never had this during the beta ... in fact the beta was flawless for me.
I think it is to do with people coming in during the staging and leaving. I think ghosts are left which screw up the launch.
I've had more luck hosting games myself then joining.
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Post by WarningU2 on May 28, 2006 15:31:29 GMT -5
And about not ladder, well i never saw you ever playing and i didn't found you as member at myleague, maybe only my fault, if so sorry Apology accepted. I actually have been making an effort to be available in the lobby ... every time I do my non reports I open up C4F (CIV4Fans aka CIV4France) ;D ... but I seldom see any ladder players ... I see the same old pleas ... get in my game ... no get in my better game ... you ahole you left my game ... you ahole you are gay and so on and so. Rarely do I see anyone assoc with the ladder. It is certaintly not like the old days. Nor do I see anyone professing to tell anyone to join the ladder. So I have occassionally put forward the hey join the ladder but am promptly told hey you ahole you are gay ... so I leave.
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Post by WarningU2 on May 28, 2006 11:51:43 GMT -5
What do mean I am not ladder ... ? Germania please check your facts before stating them in public. I only do this because I think this community is the only way to have a chance of an enjoyable game. If I am not playing it is no reflection on my dedication to the CIV community. Devoting several hours to a game online is just not my cup of tea ... I'm sorry if you don't feel I have the qualifications to do this. Not being active in many ways actually helps my impartiality. I sometimes need a understanding of the problems that a player has and occassionally I will play a game ... even a non ladder game but really don't see I have to justify my position to you.
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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 3, 2006 15:19:07 GMT -5
ok getting a little off topic here. The topic was about what people thought about conceding not about whether the game sucks ... there are enough threads on that I'm locking this as asked and answered ... thanks for your comments folks.
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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 2, 2006 8:33:35 GMT -5
Ok then so far I guess I am the minority and I 'll throw the soapbox and my tiny violin out the windows. Conceding has its place true enough, but I guess what I was trying to say is that it seems it is too readily offered up at the first moment the win is not assured. And please don't think if you are in a game with me that I will be a pr**k and insist on playing on. If the majority want to quit then so be it - I will of course concede too. On the subject of noobies ... well we were all new to the game at one point. I think it behooves us to take a noobie under our wing and show him the ropes rather than the door. It will grow the ladder more. We should not immediately toss a noobie from the game.
You may not realize it, but because I play the odd non ladder game, the caliber of play amongst the majority of the ladder far exceeds the CIV4 community. The non ladder do not have a clue how to play but our CIV4Players do. We dominate.
Oh and on the subject of pain ... I just ran out the door naked to put the garbage out. It wasn't too bad. The freezing rain we have at the moment did however stick to my member so when I came back in and tried to urinate, I had to wait till the end thawed out before I could go. That was both exhilarating and excruciating.
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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 1, 2006 23:40:01 GMT -5
What is with this tendency now (in teamers) that if you are losing players immediately want to concede ? After spending nearly an hour trying to set up a game today, we finally got started, only to end in 40 minutes when two of our noob team mates were eliminated and the call to concede was raised. Am I the only person that finds this annoying? Seemed like I was the only person that wanted to play on today. If you disagree you are just bullied into agreeing to concede. I have found that when your back is to the wall losing (and believe me I have a lot of experience in this) I actually enjoy the game. Sometimes the battles can go one way or another and you can have fun with different moves and tactics. Maybe I'm the sadist but I enjoy getting pummelled and watching my men spit blood. But no more on this ladder. It's all about winning it seems. "We can't win lets concede so I can find another game I can win". Pardon ? Thats not what the ladder was supposed to be about. Shakes my head with heavy sigh.
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Post by WarningU2 on Dec 28, 2005 10:36:12 GMT -5
I think this thread has served it's useful purpose and I am locking it.
Sidhe, Tommy and others your points are well taken but the back and forth is not beneficial.
With time the ladder ranks will reflect actual skill rather than the luck of the game. Some things we can be sure of are that patches will come out that will make things worse and then they will be better in the end. The early days of the PTW ladder were the same.
Have patience and be cordial to each other. Report the issues and they will get acted on. You likely do not know it but there are individuals assoc with the ladder here that have a great deal of say in the Firaxis community and all your observations are communicated. No one at Firaxis is out to upset anyone but in games as complex as this there will always be things that go less than planned.
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Post by WarningU2 on Dec 28, 2005 10:24:18 GMT -5
I have found that if you clear your cache prior to joining or after every failed attempt to join you have a much better chance of succeeding in joining a game.
You cache files are located in your MyGames - just select the cache folder open it and select all files and delete. Or setup a little bat file that purges them all each time you start the game.
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Post by WarningU2 on Dec 23, 2005 16:35:09 GMT -5
Hmmm ...
I seldom come in here now as I spend an hour or every night and morning tracking down multiple accounts on CIV4Players. I'll reserve my comments on the invite only or open league.
Here's the deal regarding non reports. The only way the ladder works is if YOU file non reports. It disturbs me that you say that you have 70 non reports but you reset constantly. You are your own worst enemy. Don't complain about it if you can't be bothered to file non reports.
Non reports are easy to handle. It requires regimented discipline on both the filers and admins end. You log each game - take a screen shot. Players don't report if you win you send them a POLITE request. If they ignore you 24 hrs later you file a non report. The admin receives it and waits 72 hrs. If its not contested they are are forced. Repeat offendors are penalized and eventually barred if they don't shape up.
My point is ... that it takes all ladder members to make the ladder work. Don't be playing the violin crying the blues when you are sitting back watching the non reports mount up.
The whole point of the ladder was not to climb the ladder to be number one but to find players you know that will play a game to conclusion.
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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 4, 2006 21:05:35 GMT -5
Enough
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Post by WarningU2 on Jan 4, 2006 11:12:06 GMT -5
:: crawls from under my rock ::
I have stayed out of these discussions for the most part but I feel I have to say something.
Does the game suck ?
It depends on your perspective.
1) If you are expecting a game like C3C yes it probably will. It is a different game. It has struck a balance on many things that ladder players hold dear. If there are game play issues and problems with "balance" document the issue and make suggestions on how it can be improved. Be ready to support your case. Firaxis developers do lurk here and are very interested in your comments.
2) If you are commenting on whether it sucks from a connectivity or bug perspective. I have to agree there are issues, some very serious issues. But if we want the game to improve we need to be constructive in our criticism to help Firaxis resolve these problems.
3) If you think it sucks because it was not tested you are very much mistaken, because despite what you may think, this game was tested more for multi play than any other CIV game in history.
Is the game dead ?
Absolutely not, sales have increased apparently exponentially since release. Reviews are coming in everywhere that the game excels from both a playable aspect and in it's graphics quality.
:: crawls back under my rock ::
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Post by WarningU2 on Dec 4, 2005 9:16:58 GMT -5
Please when sending me a request to add me to your YIM contacts state what your ladder name is.
I frequently get requests to be added being listed on the main ladder page, however very often its your real name.
I have been accepting them however that ceases now. If there is no ladder name I will decline. Why ? I recently added someone who turned out not to be associated with the ladder but some pervert who wanted to know if I liked hot oil up my <edit>.
On a related matter please do not feel offended if I also decline your requests for a conference. I leave my yahoo active but sometimes I am doing other things that demand my attention and I cannot participate in discussions about playera not returning to the game. If I am busy I won't respond so please don't feel slighted. If you have a ladder admin related question best email me and I will answer ASAP
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Post by WarningU2 on Nov 29, 2005 0:10:03 GMT -5
When the game I last played to completion ended I had the option to view a replay that showed each major event. I think it is accessible from the hall of fame ?
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Xfire ?
Nov 29, 2005 22:08:41 GMT -5
Post by WarningU2 on Nov 29, 2005 22:08:41 GMT -5
Without an answer from Firaxis when the lobby will be fixed, full featured or whatever you want to call it ... another solution needs to be found until that time.
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Xfire ?
Nov 26, 2005 7:10:03 GMT -5
Post by WarningU2 on Nov 26, 2005 7:10:03 GMT -5
Just installed the new patch 1.09 and it prompted me to install xfire saying I can use this to chat in game.
Is this the standard chat interface now rather than Yahoo ?
What are the ladder member's opinion on this ?
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Post by WarningU2 on Nov 27, 2005 11:14:17 GMT -5
Here Here ! (thumps table vigoriously with fist like in parliament)
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