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Post by venceslas on Jul 16, 2006 6:49:25 GMT -5
"(a) preference will be given to the team with the most 1st places in the event, (b) if still a tie, preference will be given to the team with the most 2nd place finishes in this CCC, and (c) if there is still a tie, it will be determined by the order of finish in CC XXXI (Last CIV IV CCC), and (d) if there is still a tie, there will be a random draw conducted by one of the Ladder Admins whose team is not directly involved. The Sunday events will be a maximum of three rounds only."
What about the the random draw between OOD and KINGS? Maybe accept both team if only eight teams by event?
chris.
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Post by rupman on Jul 16, 2006 9:29:40 GMT -5
I think events are stacked too much in the morning on Saturday and Sunday. I realize that the concept is so that players in both the Americas and Europe can play each other during the day but there are also players in other times zones that can't play because of this. Two of ..A..'s best players Notagoodname and Marak are from Australia. They can't play in any events today because right now it's Monday morning there. Then there's Smuckey in the Pacific Time Zone who would have to get up very early to even have a shot and playing any of the events scheduled on Saturday or Sunday. I know you can't please everyone but it really seems that these events are scheduled more for the European players who can play them in the afternoon or early evening. Even for myself it's a pain to have to get up so early on Saturday and Sunday to play in whatever event. Plus with events scheduled to begin so close together it's very hard to play in more than one event in a day even though a player can play in a total of 5 events. Today 4 events start in the span of 3 hours. Unless your team gets owned in the first round or possibly a sub in the later rounds of event 10 and 11 it's almost impossible to play in two events today.
Given the massive time differentials and other factors I think it would be most fair if events were dispersed more evenly throughout the day. There seems to be no problem starting the Grudge Match at 2 am EDT or 7 am GMT. If that can work I see no reason why events can't start at times other than in the morning on Saturday and Sunday. Possibly spacing events 3 hours apart though out the day, so events start morning, noon and night rather than basically all at once on Saturday and Sunday.
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Post by tommynt on Jul 16, 2006 10:04:10 GMT -5
The finals are so great - there are allways 10 -15 people in chat having fun togather or blaming each other it s a clanchampionship so it should stay how it is - 1 time in 6 weeks were all meet together - it suckz fpr ausies but oh well i m sry for em but u cant please every1. and on other days as sunday events are pretty much spreaded as far as i see - i d suggest 1 more event on friday to sat night for aussies maybe or sat to sun night aswell
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Post by rupman on Jul 16, 2006 10:15:36 GMT -5
Tommy, ..A.. has done very well this CCC. If we don't come in second it's because we didn't field teams for events 9 and 10 because a lot of are main players are sleeping or it's Monday. I forgot GT is also in PDT so it's 8 am where he is and he just got up in time for the last event. Besides you're in Europe so of course you love the current set up. It benefits your clan.
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Post by Elledge on Jul 16, 2006 10:23:15 GMT -5
Fact is, nobody is going to be happy with the times when you have 3 continents each 7 or 8 hours apart who are trying to all play. Although these events are more in-the-morning than I'd prefer, too, I realize that there's no way in the world they can ever please everyone.
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Post by rupman on Jul 16, 2006 12:05:26 GMT -5
That's why I propose staggard events so at least everyone can play one event at a decent hour rather than everyone in Europe getting to play during the afternoon and evening, everyone here having to play in the very early morning amd everyone is Aussie playing God knows when, cause they're like 16 hours ahead.
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Post by holocanthe on Jul 16, 2006 12:42:21 GMT -5
That's why I propose staggard events so at least everyone can play one event at a decent hour rather than everyone in Europe getting to play during the afternoon and evening, everyone here having to play in the very early morning amd everyone is Aussie playing God knows when, cause they're like 16 hours ahead. Actually, Europe play : Friday vanilla at 9 pm, finish saturday morning 2 am ?? (not sure) Friday futur at 11 pm, finish saturday at 6:30 am, so all the night..... Friday Cton at saturday 1 30 am, again the night So Europe = 3 events during the night and one saturday 8 am.
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Post by alice on Jul 16, 2006 14:23:07 GMT -5
i agree with rupman completely because of this i have never played in a ccc event almost all events start sat in the early am for me
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Post by Ellestar on Jul 16, 2006 14:41:20 GMT -5
Actually, Europe play : Friday vanilla at 9 pm, finish saturday morning 2 am ?? (not sure) Friday futur at 11 pm, finish saturday at 6:30 am, so all the night..... Friday Cton at saturday 1 30 am, again the night So Europe = 3 events during the night and one saturday 8 am. Last time i checked my Moscow is in Europe and future was 1 am - 9:30 am for me
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Post by rupman on Jul 16, 2006 15:27:40 GMT -5
Oh dear, you have 2 events that start at unreasonable hours.
I'd take those two over the like 5 we have,(more if you're on the west coast or Australia). Remember this is not just a complaint about the early starts for us this is about how close the events are together. Unless your clan has 15 people that can all be here at about the same time, it is very hard to play in all the events. Some people have lives outside of civ you know.
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Post by Bantams on Jul 16, 2006 17:17:35 GMT -5
why not make the cc more european and start more events at the same time just a thought
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Post by holocanthe on Jul 16, 2006 19:05:08 GMT -5
Some people have lives outside of civ you know. Really, strange ;D Seriously, between event 7 (saturday) and event 8 (sunday) there are 20 hours with no new event. Why ?? i don't know, it is an old mystery always without answer....
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Post by MookieNJ on Jul 16, 2006 22:32:38 GMT -5
A lot of the event start times are rough on West Coast American players -- Bonsai, DeyReepher, and Ironclad have events starting at 5am and 7am Pacific Time on both Saturday and Sunday. Pretty early for them ... but for the most part the events are spread out so that everyone has events scheduled at bad times for them. Europeans have crazy start times for Friday's events as they've already mentioned. Perhaps the most fair solution is to rotate the events each CCC? That way everyone gets a chance to have their favorite events benefit their time zone .
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Post by Ellestar on Jul 17, 2006 1:48:43 GMT -5
A lot of the event start times are rough on West Coast American players -- Bonsai, DeyReepher, and Ironclad have events starting at 5am and 7am Pacific Time on both Saturday and Sunday. Pretty early for them ... but for the most part the events are spread out so that everyone has events scheduled at bad times for them. Europeans have crazy start times for Friday's events as they've already mentioned. 7 am in weekends is a bad time? Don't be such a girl thingy. The only really bad time is 3 am, it's too late to still not sleep and too early to get up.
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Post by MookieNJ on Jul 17, 2006 2:06:58 GMT -5
7 am in weekends is a bad time? Don't be such a girl thingy. The only really bad time is 3 am, it's too late to still not sleep and too early to get up. It can be when you're used to sleeping in and you're playing all night on Friday ... we managed and I'm not complaining, it's just not as nice as the later starts! Besides, if you had bothered to quote the rest of my post, I'm just saying it's not fair that, for example, that the Ironman starts at the same time EVERY CCC. The same players get the time advantage for this event every CCC, so I simply suggested rotating the events around a bit so every time zone gets a shot to play every event at an optimal time every couple CCCs. By the way, thanks for calling us pu$$ies and getting caught by the swear filter. That was really nice friend.
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Post by Elledge on Jul 17, 2006 3:29:25 GMT -5
I agree with Mookie, swearing is terrible and nobody should do it! If you swear, you must be a bad person.
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Post by Ellestar on Jul 17, 2006 4:33:06 GMT -5
By the way, thanks for calling us pu$$ies and getting caught by the swear filter. That was really nice friend. Bleh English is a strange language. I hear "as shole" in like every second Hollywood film and yet here i get a 3-day ban (Besides, in a flame forum. Some nazi moderators should get a clue what a flame forum is). Anyway, since when "pus sy" is a swear word? Edit: Hmm, ok according to www.urbandictionary.com it is. But really, normal dictionaries rarely include slang meanings, especially a swearing ones. In my dictionary it has a meanings "effeminate/womanlike man", "cat" and that perfectly suits whiners who say that events start in a bad time Cry me a river build a bridge and get over it! (c) I agree with Mookie, swearing is terrible and nobody should do it! If you swear, you must be a bad person. I'm a bad person anyway ;D
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Post by rupman on Jul 17, 2006 8:49:21 GMT -5
^ An unabridged English dictionary has every freaking word you could ever imagine. Even some ones those kids at the Scripts National couldn't spell, but anyways.
What's wrong with the word girl thingy. It's such a nice word. I like girl thingy cats and what is better than girl thingy Galore in Goldfinger.
girl thingy:My name is girl thingy Galore, Mr. Goldfingers personal pilot Sean Connery: I must be dreaming
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Connery later on "Hello girl thingy"
Best Bond film ever!
Hooray for girl thingy!
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Post by rupman on Jul 17, 2006 8:51:55 GMT -5
Ok that filter is mentally challenged. Pu$$y cats are totally G rated and Bond is like PG or PG-13. How lame.
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Post by SirPartyMan on Jul 17, 2006 14:50:40 GMT -5
"(a) preference will be given to the team with the most 1st places in the event, (b) if still a tie, preference will be given to the team with the most 2nd place finishes in this CCC, and (c) if there is still a tie, it will be determined by the order of finish in CC XXXI (Last CIV IV CCC), and (d) if there is still a tie, there will be a random draw conducted by one of the Ladder Admins whose team is not directly involved. The Sunday events will be a maximum of three rounds only." What about the the random draw between OOD and KINGS? Maybe accept both team if only eight teams by event? chris. Swissy and Magzi conducted a random draw and OOD won; however, since neither OOD or KINGS had any points in first 7 events, I question their inclusion in final day regardless. What would be the point of allowing two clans tied for eighth some how share the 8th spot? It just lengthens the event unnecessarily and gives each of them virtually no chance to advance. We will discuss this rule and its possible modification for next time? Best, SPM
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