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Post by Speaker on Feb 22, 2007 23:19:44 GMT -5
also have you posted on this topic yet ? To be honest, I don't see much room for another event in CCC. It is already hard enough to fill every event. The only option, in my eyes, is to remove the OCC semi-cton (aka farm every tile, work as many scientists as you can, and see who can get the most techs) and replace it with a different event. Others have voiced this opinion eloquently enough, hence my silence.
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Post by geforced on Feb 22, 2007 23:32:49 GMT -5
add some form of modern event (mookies first post is a good example) and remove an occ imo
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Post by balmung on Feb 23, 2007 4:49:10 GMT -5
it seems that some non OCC player want to skip # 8 having a teamer up for each era from anc to future Why ? Is it impossible to tech from medieval to reny or from reny to indu ? Is it that warlord is in their eyes a battle game only ? What is the challenging difference of battling with a classical start or a medieval start? Is the possible difference worth having for each era a single teamer ? Help me i realy dont understand and thats is a serious question to them ! And dont come up that you can expand in other territory, you can do it in all eras you dont need 7 teamers doing this Plus anc 1v1, an ironman and anc cton Im not proposing having an OCC for every era and only 1 teamer for the CCC but why they are not prepared to understand that a lot of players having fun playing an OCC and optimizing a city and not sending stacks of cats around ;D If an event is dominated by luck then its clearly the random event # 11 on shuffel map . I played it often and its a matter of fact that players or teams could get a continent each with totally differnt land size. Especially when this happens in early eras game is decided when starting it If you realy need a teamer for each era then skip # 11 .
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Post by MookieNJ on Feb 23, 2007 9:57:35 GMT -5
It's funny that you keep calling me a non-OCC player because I do know how to play them. In fact, I played nothing but OCC for a few weeks, enjoyed optimizing my 1 city, figured out the strategy, but then I got bored and moved on. You can only add so many Great Scientists to your city before you're looking for a new challenge. The Random/Random is a great event about being comfortable in all eras on all types of maps. There is a great deal of skill involved. And unlike an OCC Semi-Cton, if you feel your land blows, go kill someone. Once the other team is down a player you should be able to win.
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Post by Lestat on Feb 23, 2007 11:09:05 GMT -5
It's funny that you keep calling me a non-OCC player because I do know how to play them. In fact, I played nothing but OCC for a few weeks, enjoyed optimizing my 1 city, figured out the strategy, but then I got bored and moved on. You can only add so many Great Scientists to your city before you're looking for a new challenge. The Random/Random is a great event about being comfortable in all eras on all types of maps. There is a great deal of skill involved. And unlike an OCC Semi-Cton, if you feel your land blows, go kill someone. Once the other team is down a player you should be able to win. You talking that in OCC is not challenge then in second paragraf u talking if u land suck go and kill. This is reverse statements. Dont build units and u are ded soon. In one OCC game 1 player come and kill me with 50 cavs. Mine art and inf are raped ... and now tell me its not chalenge. U chose your path in occ, u can be killed easy if u dont balacing tech,units...
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Post by Gogf on Feb 23, 2007 13:04:56 GMT -5
It's funny that you keep calling me a non-OCC player because I do know how to play them. In fact, I played nothing but OCC for a few weeks, enjoyed optimizing my 1 city, figured out the strategy, but then I got bored and moved on. You can only add so many Great Scientists to your city before you're looking for a new challenge. The Random/Random is a great event about being comfortable in all eras on all types of maps. There is a great deal of skill involved. And unlike an OCC Semi-Cton, if you feel your land blows, go kill someone. Once the other team is down a player you should be able to win. You talking that in OCC is not challenge then in second paragraf u talking if u land suck go and kill. This is reverse statements. Dont build units and u are ded soon. In one OCC game 1 player come and kill me with 50 cavs. Mine art and inf are raped ... and now tell me its not chalenge. U chose your path in occ, u can be killed easy if u dont balacing tech,units... That's not the point. Yes, you can go kill one person in an OCC (which is more difficult than you make it sound... defending is very easy in OCCs in my experience), but all that does it allow you to beat that one person. It's virtually impossible to make yourself first in an OCC CTON if you have bad land. That's why none of us really have an issue with the OCC teamer but dislike the CTON.
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Post by Bantams on Feb 23, 2007 13:08:39 GMT -5
Ive been in a OCC cton with 5 players including [Mojo]ronster who managed to kill everyone including myself (killed me last so not too bad ) and he was leading in points like 2000 most the game so seems most OCC at the moment are Killing games quite fun
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Post by ironclad on Feb 24, 2007 2:58:23 GMT -5
the real reason i dont like modern on tbg is no sea and you know the map before. Fractal isn't unbalanced, you just gotta learn to play other land types other than SUPER DUPER UBER L33T inland sea land. Fractal large or standard 3v3 high sea, i prefer large. no need to ban germany or commandos either...
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Post by ironclad on Feb 24, 2007 3:00:03 GMT -5
indu, modern, future teamers are all played with same farm, grow, slave, kill strategy. How boring is that? I think the only era that is consistently using that strategy at the moment is Future. I certainly don't play Industrial like that, and I simply think there haven't been enough Modern games played on the Ladder for any dominant strategies to emerge or new strategies to evolve. There is a reason we dont play future, it sucks lol.
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Post by Bantams on Feb 24, 2007 3:25:58 GMT -5
the real reason i dont like modern on tbg is no sea and you know the map before. Fractal isn't unbalanced, you just gotta learn to play other land types other than SUPER DUPER UBER L33T inland sea land. Fractal large or standard 3v3 high sea, i prefer large. no need to ban germany or commandos either... I aggree why ban Germany anyways nobody ever picks it they suck (as a Civ not a Country ) banning spies is a must though Hmm Fractal sounds cool never played it
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Post by MookieNJ on Feb 24, 2007 11:32:06 GMT -5
I aggree why ban Germany anyways nobody ever picks it they suck (as a Civ not a Country ) banning spies is a must though Uhhh, Panzers? Germany most definitely does not suck in Modern, have you ever played a Modern game or are you just making another nonsense post filled with smilies?
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Post by Bantams on Feb 24, 2007 11:41:38 GMT -5
I aggree why ban Germany anyways nobody ever picks it they suck (as a Civ not a Country ) banning spies is a must though Uhhh, Panzers? Germany most definitely does not suck in Modern, have you ever played a Modern game or are you just making another nonsense post filled with smilies? Yes many times last 2 CCCs in fact the point is ive never seen anyone pick Germany though maybe its a gentlemans aggreement not to
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Post by MookieNJ on Feb 24, 2007 12:38:26 GMT -5
Uhhh, Panzers? Germany most definitely does not suck in Modern, have you ever played a Modern game or are you just making another nonsense post filled with smilies? Yes many times last 2 CCCs in fact the point is ive never seen anyone pick Germany though maybe its a gentlemans aggreement not to Bantams, Modern hasn't been an event in CCC for about 6 months.
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Post by Bantams on Feb 24, 2007 14:07:45 GMT -5
Yes many times last 2 CCCs in fact the point is ive never seen anyone pick Germany though maybe its a gentlemans aggreement not to Bantams, Modern hasn't been an event in CCC for about 6 months. Whoops whats Future if not Modern then
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Post by Gogf on Feb 24, 2007 14:10:22 GMT -5
Bantams, Modern hasn't been an event in CCC for about 6 months. Whoops whats Future if not Modern then Future and modern are different eras. Panzers are overpowered in modern, not in future.
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Post by Bantams on Feb 24, 2007 14:34:04 GMT -5
Whoops whats Future if not Modern then Future and modern are different eras. Panzers are overpowered in modern, not in future. Thanks Goggy Noobtams never done Modern
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Post by cryptococcus on Feb 24, 2007 19:34:07 GMT -5
I've played many modern and most don't want Germany (then again I didn't play it on TBG), but anyway don't take away boats and nukes from modern. Modern is boring without them imo. Play it on HUB!
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Post by Tony on Feb 24, 2007 21:11:34 GMT -5
I aggree why ban Germany anyways nobody ever picks it they suck (as a Civ not a Country ) banning spies is a must though Uhhh, Panzers? Germany most definitely does not suck in Modern, have you ever played a Modern game or are you just making another nonsense post filled with smilies? LOOOOL, so true, clueless posts packed full of smileys.
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Post by Audrien on Feb 25, 2007 8:25:55 GMT -5
Hello friends, 1st) Concerning OCC Semi-CtonThis is a fun event. I totally agree with Balmung, Bantams and Darling. CCC is not only about tradition but also about representing common game styles. Right now OCC Semi-Ctons are played very often by many players, therefore i think we should keep it in the CCC. It is not all about land. Your arguements are right, you cannot expand into someone elses land after killing him, cause you only got one city, etc. But still land is not deciding the game - especially in later eras. You can always do something with your land. Dont want to go into details. Just keep that damn event plz. 2nd) Concerning Modern TeamerThis is a very nice idea, indeed. This era has not been played in any CCCs since a long time. (I havent played much modern games, so i dunno which map would be the best. I think you guys are better off deciding that.) 3rd) Conflict OCC Semi-Cton - Modern Teamer for event #8We just finished last CCC. For the first time 16 clans have competed in 12 events. I would not replace the OCC semi-Cton event by the Modern Teamer. What if we keep the OCC Cton and add the Modern Teamer as a new event. With 16 competing clans the points will most likely spread more between the clans. So i think its time to add one more event to have more points that can be spread. Now were do we put this new event? Since some people have been talking about replacing the OCC Cton with the Modern Teamer I think we could just start that new event at the same time as the OCC-Cton starts (5 pm). I dont think this will be much of a problem for the clans to field teams since there is only one player of each clan in the OCC. Well considering there are already 3 other teamers on saturday (including the Grudge Match) it might be a little problem for clans with the minimum roster size. Right now the CCC is scheduled like this: (Times are GMT-5. Events ending estimated. Number of players needed excluding subs.) If it looks to packed on Saturday with the additional event (i.e. Modern Teamer 3v3) maybe we need to reschedule it. So far about this. -Tobey-
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Post by Gogf on Feb 25, 2007 11:05:00 GMT -5
Tobey, I really don't see what you can do about your land. Sure, you can go try and kill someone, but you're not going to be able to kill more than one person in a game with very good players like the CCC event. It's too much of a land lottery. The Industrial generally doesn't last until 4pm. It's also something of an exaggeration to say that the Ancient teamer can be expected to last for 13 hours. The same is true for the "13 hour" Renaissance event. It never lasts that long. What's likely to be going on during the new event is the one-person ironman, the end of the renaissance, and, if we keep it, the one-person OCC CTON. That's really not such a huge strain . The schedule is even further opened up if we get rid of the OCC CTON.
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