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Post by Lestat on Aug 11, 2006 11:43:17 GMT -5
I agree that those kids play each other all the time. But they cant be rude to other and taking other down with sily names of games etc.. Why he dont say: "U cant play in mine game bc i play with friends.Soryy bud."
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Post by Lestat on Aug 11, 2006 11:45:32 GMT -5
The funny thing is, if you were actually let into one of these games, you would be miserable. They would be pinging the screen, criticizing every move you were making, every build your city was making, even what tile you were working. They would be ugly, and calling you n00b all game. Then 10-15 turns later when you died, you would be greatful that the experience was over.. and to them.. it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy that you ruined the game. You would spend more time trying to defend your actions, then defending your cities! You would not have fun (for example) facing a rush from tommy and germ! -longhorn true but this is broking ladder rules more then 1 and need boxing....
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Post by [KC]NeutralParty on Aug 11, 2006 12:22:47 GMT -5
Absolutely NOT. Like i got nothin better to do than make all the rats come out of the wood work. Fact is, its word for word. Sorry if you feel you need to defend your group of 'skilled' players. Actions speak louder than these words and the eliteist reign is soon to end. LIke I care what the cheeseballs think. I have no desire to play your lame games over and over with you. Im sick of hearing people bash other players on Teamspeak. Im sick of cheating in Ctons with the same Teamspeak program or a plain old private message. Im sick of the top ranks not having to meet some sort of variety of games requirement to hold their rank. What Im not sick of is all the decent people on the ladder and playing with them. Not you. Not your rank hoarding team games. Sure a good teamer is ok to play but for cryin out loud this is civ. Its not monopoly where there is one board and everything is the same every time you play. This is Civ. Rank should require variety. Otherwise you DO NOT DESERVE IT. And if selling out on my sportmanship and the way i treat others is a requirement for getting into your games, I don't want to play them. And I won't. And the movement is growing. You're sick of this, you're sick of that. Piss moan piss moan. The top ladder players that often play teamers would whoop your tail in any variety of game. Period. Grow up and get over it already. P.S. There is no movement, and if there is, it aint going anywhere.
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Post by coloneltreize on Aug 11, 2006 12:27:49 GMT -5
NeutralParty wrote:
Ok, we all agree that people should be able to play whomever they want, myself included. In my first post, I encouraged players to look at playing with noobs differently, but I am not demanding anything and never have. My main point has been anti-abuse from post one. Personally, I have never been rejected by ladder players ever. In fact, I have my own group of players who prefer the same game styles I do. ;D I don't care about that as much as the bad language.
You're saying that your question that asked "why would you want to be where you are not wanted?" was referring specifically to the game only. Okay, then I retract my accusation. But do you see how that could be misconstrued as a rhetorical question referring to anything in general? But I digress. I acknowledge that you join me in emphazing that rejection should be in a respectful manner. As for my disability, I'm very passionate about disabled rights, but I am not frustrated. Because I was born disabled, I never had to adjust to it. But I brought it up because your question appeared to be offensive, the way it was written. Indeed, it was a complete misunderstanding about which I jumped the gun, and I apologize for it. Other than that, I'll just stick to the issues.
Gogf wrote:
Who is silkk, and is that true that he didn't report his losses?
I need to reiterate that I do not pay attention to the statistics and niether should anyone, else, other than for fun. Even you and the admins know the system is inherently flawed and the reason the Ladder was created is to have games without quitters, nothing more. Btw, I do consider myself to be one of the "we" and "us" you refer to as good players, even if the Ladder rank doesn't show it. I'm not good at games with a blazing turn timer because I am a little slow, but you can't hold that against me. ;D
Again, I'm talking the way in which players reject each other. Telling someone that they "suck big time" or that they are a "smacktard" is just low brow. If the best players are so honorable, they should be above that sort of language. I want to acknowledge that Longhorn, Avo, Lestat, Neutral Party, and Decepticon did say here that abuse is not what the spirit of the ladder is about.
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Post by decepticon on Aug 11, 2006 12:28:08 GMT -5
aahhh nope they wouldn't sorry to tell ya. Most likely it would be me defeating you.
i've got nothin to prove in respect to my civ skillz. been #4 no need to go higher when the ranking system is highjacked.
P.S. you should do homework on people before you call them out. Seeing how im gonna be looking to crush YOU now.
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Post by [KC]NeutralParty on Aug 11, 2006 12:32:35 GMT -5
aahhh nope they wouldn't sorry to tell ya. Most likely it would be me defeating you. i've got nothin to prove in respect to my civ skillz. been #4 no need to go higher when the ranking system is highjacked. P.S. you should do homework on people before you call them out. Seeing how im gonna be looking to crush YOU now. Then quit complaining about it already. Crushing me in this game is nothing to be too awfully proud about, whiny boy. I'm brand new to it. Maybe you should do your homework first.
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Post by decepticon on Aug 11, 2006 12:40:08 GMT -5
aahh so you are a noob trying to tell a veteran what is worth complaining about then? great logic there. its too bad KC is attracting people with the who cares about sportmanship attitude.
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Post by [KC]NeutralParty on Aug 11, 2006 12:49:30 GMT -5
aahh so you are a noob trying to tell a veteran what is worth complaining about then? great logic there. its too bad KC is attracting people with the who cares about sportmanship attitude. Nope. Just suggested you quit complaining already. I dont see other veterans on here complaining all the time. And the members of [KC] that have played with me already know that I dont have that attitude.
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Post by Gogf on Aug 11, 2006 13:29:00 GMT -5
Absolutely NOT. Like i got nothin better to do than make all the rats come out of the wood work. Fact is, its word for word. Sorry if you feel you need to defend your group of 'skilled' players. Actions speak louder than these words and the eliteist reign is soon to end. Then why was Poly's name misspelled twice? Then why do you keep crying on the forums? This is so stupid. None of us care about rank. The thing we hate about rank is people like you who suggest that we're trying to somehow keep you from you. If you don't want to play with us, what's the point of all of this? Why are you posting here? Are you trying to get your fellow conspiracy theorists to "boycott" our games? If your goal is to make it so we don't have to deal with people upset about "rank hoarding," then I support you ;D.
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Post by Gogf on Aug 11, 2006 13:36:39 GMT -5
NeutralParty wrote: Ok, we all agree that people should be able to play whomever they want, myself included. In my first post, I encouraged players to look at playing with noobs differently, but I am not demanding anything and never have. My main point has been anti-abuse from post one. Personally, I have never been rejected by ladder players ever. In fact, I have my own group of players who prefer the same game styles I do. ;D I don't care about that as much as the bad language. Nobody is being abused. If Poly tells somebody they suck, that may not be tactful, it may be truthful, it may not be the nicest thing he's ever said, but it sure as hell isn't abuse. If you can't stand Poly that much, just add him to your ignore list! Rejection can be done however the rejector chooses. I try to be nice about it, but if someone says, "sorry, you're not good enough to play in this game" I wouldn't have a problem with that. You sound like you're trying to get symphathy for your cause by bringing up the fact that you're disabled. I'm very sorry that you are, but that's not going to change how I feel. A CTON player. Yes. pquote]I need to reiterate that I do not pay attention to the statistics and niether should anyone, else, other than for fun. Even you and the admins know the system is inherently flawed and the reason the Ladder was created is to have games without quitters, nothing more.[/quote] But you pay attention to rank enough to say that we're rank hoarders? We look at statistics when evaluating whether someone is the same level of player as the ones already in the game. It's the only way we can tell without already knowing the players. Would you rather new players never got let into our games? Abuse is obviously not what the ladder is about; however, there is no abuse going on. If Poly wants to tell someone they suck, that's up to Poly. It may not be nice, but it's not abuse. As [KC]NeutralParty has pointed out, your arguments are slowly thinning. Now it's about "abuse." Right... What will it be once you finally admit that that IM from Poly is forged? The fact that some top players don't always use periods when in staging?
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Post by Gogf on Aug 11, 2006 13:39:28 GMT -5
aahhh nope they wouldn't sorry to tell ya. Most likely it would be me defeating you. i've got nothin to prove in respect to my civ skillz. been #4 no need to go higher when the ranking system is highjacked. P.S. you should do homework on people before you call them out. Seeing how im gonna be looking to crush YOU now. You're right, Smatt, the fact that you've been to rank four before is a vindication of your skills.
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Post by Vermillion on Aug 11, 2006 14:08:15 GMT -5
WOW..... Ive been away for quite a while (some of you may remember me, but most wont) and things havent changed a bit LMAO! No seriously, I was bored and decided to see what was going on around here. I just wanted to personally thank all in this thread for entertaining me while I was bored @ work. I appreciate it, you are making the time fly by. ;D
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Post by swissy on Aug 11, 2006 15:05:46 GMT -5
WOW..... Ive been away for quite a while (some of you may remember me, but most wont) and things havent changed a bit LMAO! No seriously, I was bored and decided to see what was going on around here. I just wanted to personally thank all in this thread for entertaining me while I was bored @ work. I appreciate it, you are making the time fly by. ;D ^^^ ;D
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Post by alice on Aug 11, 2006 15:21:59 GMT -5
i am just sooo glad that i am such an elite player what you have yet to even surmise is that once you are in the top ten that you receive 72 blessed virgins, at night, in your own home!! and free cell phone service and this week as i spent a few days in the top three, i got royalties for the warlordss sales life is just soo good for me right now i am about to retire from tattooing in fact, between all the money coming in and all these blessed virgins i hardly have time to civ anymore, but i cant stop civ'ing yet, you otta hear about the added incentives for making it to #1 btw eiffle pls stop losing so much, your making it hard for me to maintain my rightfully earned overinflated ego
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Post by Polydeukes on Aug 11, 2006 15:37:20 GMT -5
I make up no lies. name is spelt wrong cause smallpotatoes was in the staging room while im leaning over his shoulder at the keyboard trying to copy and paste and go back and forth to make sure game isn't launching....yada yada .... i couldn't paste the pm chat for some reason so i typed that part out. And BTW the game was changed to a teamer DURING the conversations i posted. Sometime after the comment about it being against rules to keep people out is when it became a teamer. Abusing people is just not cool. Well keep on lying. I never ever host a cton and smallpotatoes was never in the staging room. Smatt you are a LIAR.
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Post by zzZhenon on Aug 11, 2006 15:48:18 GMT -5
I don't understand... how is it elitist? If you're a "top player" you'll get the "top rank." That simple.
Of all the people complaining about elitism... Please rate yourself. Now check your current rank. How do they compare? Are you always in the top 100? Do you think you are one of the top 100 ladder players? Are you in the top 10? Do you think you are one of the top 10 best players?
People come and go... some play more than others. But there is no purposeful "rank hoarding." People invite competent people into their ranked teamers.
The main issue I see is that "noobs" don't play enough of their own teamers to get good at them. Do you know how many teamers I had to play before I got remotely good?
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Post by Polydeukes on Aug 11, 2006 15:48:46 GMT -5
aahhh nope they wouldn't sorry to tell ya. Most likely it would be me defeating you. i've got nothin to prove in respect to my civ skillz. been #4 no need to go higher when the ranking system is highjacked. And again we all know rank means nothing, only you think it does. You are the guy posing in the lobby with your rank. I´ve seen your civ skillz more than once nothing to be proud of ;D And now Smatt
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Post by GERMANIA on Aug 11, 2006 15:53:54 GMT -5
well Guys, play some more ctons, learn more the way of the game and then starting to host your own games.. after some time you will be invited in any games then
And the host decided who gets in his game, and there will be never a game witch could change that
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Post by knupp on Aug 11, 2006 16:41:47 GMT -5
The truth is Smatt I'm from the FBI. I make sure I protect all rights of the elites. I tell them who shouldn't and who should be allowed in their games. President Bush sent me to this forum to shut down your movement. Once again give me a break. I seem to remember smatt when you used to play in all our teamers. Once you got pretty high in rank you would challenge a new person every day in the daily news. You challenged like 10 people. Now they have to play you in a formal challenge. This prevents any "rank hoarding conspirecy against smatt" situations. Why didn't you get to number 1? Surely they are not rank hoarding if they play and beat you in all these formal challenges.
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Post by Bantams on Aug 11, 2006 16:48:14 GMT -5
;D oh really im from MI6 call me BOND BANTAMS BOND lmfao
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