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Post by Gogf on Apr 19, 2006 21:49:17 GMT -5
Well i have seen now a few times that the games tells you the game is full, even if all tell you a few slots are open and the displays shows you it you get the error the game is full, would be great would that been fix i tried to join a game like 8 times and didn't get in even by rs civs a few times.. It's actually not a bug. When you are trying to join a game, it counts other players who are joining as in the game. This means that it may tell you the game is full even if there are slots open.
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Post by friedrichpsitalon on Apr 19, 2006 22:48:04 GMT -5
Zerza, you are trolling. Continue to troll and you will be kicked clear. We will not see a rehash of the Civ3 forum here. Several of your posts have been deleted (here and elsewhere) for exceedingly disrespectful language. Make your points politely and respectfully, or don't make them at all. Dodging the vulgarity filter and adding posts that do nothing to move the conversations forward except via flinging insults is not acceptable in this forum, and will get you swiftly escorted out. I know he missed picking on me. I flinged no insults to any individuals so I'm at a loss as to your claim. This is a feedback thread for people to post their angst with the rash of new connection problems that have come about. These connection issues should be highest priority for them to fix. Not some expansion, its wrong to expect MORE money from a customer for a product that STILL dont work. A company that partakes in such practices is going to have people say harsh things about them. Making comments regarding the company that is yanking us along is not trolling, its a valid consumer response. It dont work, and I wanna rant after a 2 hour game of hell. THAT was a valid and legitimate response. "They are 'tards who (insert various profane filter-dodging remarks here)" is not. You also know this, being well experienced in this situation, and this is the last time I will discuss it with you publicly.
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Post by churchill1 on Apr 19, 2006 23:09:35 GMT -5
so if a game shows up as full when it's not, you should just keep trying i 'spose
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 20, 2006 1:38:10 GMT -5
so if a game shows up as full when it's not, you should just keep trying i 'spose The problem really is that the GS list doesn't update fast enough, but with 1.61 if you get beat to the last slot, by a incoming player you'll get the game is full message even if GS says there's slots open. CS
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Post by zerza on Apr 20, 2006 2:50:55 GMT -5
I know he missed picking on me. I flinged no insults to any individuals so I'm at a loss as to your claim. This is a feedback thread for people to post their angst with the rash of new connection problems that have come about. These connection issues should be highest priority for them to fix. Not some expansion, its wrong to expect MORE money from a customer for a product that STILL dont work. A company that partakes in such practices is going to have people say harsh things about them. Making comments regarding the company that is yanking us along is not trolling, its a valid consumer response. It dont work, and I wanna rant after a 2 hour game of hell. THAT was a valid and legitimate response. "They are 'tards who (insert various profane filter-dodging remarks here)" is not. You also know this, being well experienced in this situation, and this is the last time I will discuss it with you publicly. Sry bout that, an entire night ruined over a game that wont work is mighty frustrating to anyone Before patch there were no problems with games, aside from people that didn't wanna restart civ (bad peers)
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Post by Lestat on Apr 20, 2006 8:25:15 GMT -5
:::Whiplash if the issues between yourself and civ3 management resurface on these boards, your posting priveledges here shall be removed. This is a board for Civ4 for those who play Civ4. Not for Ex-TD's who do not.::: Avogadro I don't even remember what I said, but I'm pretty sure it was inocuous. What are the censorship rules here? Kick spamer And by the way u have alot accounts in many forums, just leave us alone here and go spam to other forums.
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Post by Lestat on Apr 20, 2006 8:27:19 GMT -5
Well i have seen now a few times that the games tells you the game is full, even if all tell you a few slots are open and the displays shows you it you get the error the game is full, would be great would that been fix i tried to join a game like 8 times and didn't get in even by rs civs a few times.. It's actually not a bug. When you are trying to join a game, it counts other players who are joining as in the game. This means that it may tell you the game is full even if there are slots open. true we had it yesterday bad pier and full game. Rebooting civ4 is solution, after rebooting we was playing.
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Post by tommynt on Apr 25, 2006 14:00:19 GMT -5
THATS SO f**kED UP!!!!!
conenction probelms got really much worse!!!!
give us 1.51. back!!!!
rejoining just works about never anymore - allways some bad peer - oh well and so much other weired nuts all time ...
it s really like there are so mayn problems i cant start saying when and where as probelm are different about every time - but rejoining is definatly more f**ked up as before
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Post by Tony on Apr 25, 2006 14:35:58 GMT -5
yeah reconnecting is a joke, beacuse you connect to someone just fine then when you relaod you cant connect to that person. Also sometimes you get stuck at someone, then when they leave you get stuck at somsone you connected to fine just 2 secs ago.
I dont care what anyone says about bad peers or connections issues, the fac is they are nowhere near acceptable, and the game has been out for 6 months, no wonder the ladder has so few reports. This is CIV's golden age, about 6-7 months into a game, what was apprently MP game of the year. Its getting way less reports then the c3c one did, and lets face it that was not even designed for MP, has a million and 1 expliots yet this is getting less reports, i personally find this embrassing. Every ladder games seems to be 50% waiting and 50% playing.
JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH, just come out of a game thats scrapped after 3 hours.
F F S
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Post by Elledge on Apr 25, 2006 16:26:48 GMT -5
I try to play a game every day or two, but in the past 2 weeks I've played 4 or 5 games. Every single one was scrapped or conceded due to various connection problems.
I'm not so eager to play a game every day anymore.
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Post by alice on Apr 25, 2006 18:49:58 GMT -5
have to agree here the new patch has made my experiance much worse with in game freezes, players unable to reconect to other players in game or even durring reloads, had been playing alot, but scince the new patch there seems to be far more problems from what ive seen
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Post by MookieNJ on Apr 25, 2006 19:02:38 GMT -5
Another fun new connection issue I have experienced a few times is when a window pops up and says something along the lines of connection to server lost. I know my internet connection is fine because I am talking on TeamSpeak and nothing happens there ... so I have to get back into the lobby and hopefully get back into the game without another round of bad peers, etc.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 25, 2006 21:03:35 GMT -5
Another fun new connection issue I have experienced a few times is when a window pops up and says something along the lines of connection to server lost. I know my internet connection is fine because I am talking on TeamSpeak and nothing happens there ... so I have to get back into the lobby and hopefully get back into the game without another round of bad peers, etc. I've had that but it's always been a legitamate reason like my DSL fading out. Perhaps CIV is more picky than TS. CS
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Post by loki1023 on Apr 25, 2006 22:55:59 GMT -5
Again check out "The Hamachi C.4.M.P Lobby"' hamachi can make civ connections quite stable (about a 98& connection ratio) also I recently expanded the lobby to list normal direct ip games so check it out. Side note Eiffelthe creator of Civ4fans recently added my lobby in the application so esentialy we have a complete external lobby using my games lists and IRC chat room + the ability to connect to the civ4 gs chat.
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Post by zerza on Apr 25, 2006 23:48:03 GMT -5
If gs players could connect to hamachi you'd be in business
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Post by loki1023 on Apr 26, 2006 0:50:57 GMT -5
If gs players could connect to hamachi you'd be in business What do you mean by if they could ? All they need to do is download and install the hamachi client and create a vpn network to host or join a vpn network to join then simply host or join as if it were a normal direct ip game except you use your hamachi ip to host with. Plenty of tutorials on my site anyone can follow them easily all people need to do is push my hamachi c4mp lobby website ,hamachi ,and civ4fans and you have a complete lobby not run by GS or firaxis! Also as I noted before you can access my hamachi lobby via the internal browser of civ4fans so you can browse games and chat at the same time using either the gs chat room or the hamachi chat room . Sadly people are just to lazy or to paranoid to try new things that will improve their gaming experience. ***note to modders I am willing to host your mods on my site just pm me here or contact me on the Hamachi C.4.M.P Lobby website.
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Post by Elledge on Apr 26, 2006 1:18:41 GMT -5
I just am 99% unwilling to install Hamachi, which is some pretty odd general-purpose networking software, just to play a single game more reliably sometimes. It violates my personal rule as a programmer and a computer user that you are going to get in trouble if your program (or your computer) does more than you need it to do. Hamachi has one zillion features that not only do I not need, I'm not even completely sure what they do, because Hamachi devs won't reveal exactly how it works!
(Besides, when I tried it anyway, it didn't work; after fifteen minutes fiddling with "magic options" we gave up, as it wouldn't connect between me and one other guy.)
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Post by loki1023 on Apr 26, 2006 2:43:16 GMT -5
I just am 99% unwilling to install Hamachi, which is some pretty odd general-purpose networking software, just to play a single game more reliably sometimes. It violates my personal rule as a programmer and a computer user that you are going to get in trouble if your program (or your computer) does more than you need it to do. Hamachi has one zillion features that not only do I not need, I'm not even completely sure what they do, because Hamachi devs won't reveal exactly how it works! (Besides, when I tried it anyway, it didn't work; after fifteen minutes fiddling with "magic options" we gave up, as it wouldn't connect between me and one other guy.) First off hamachi is just what it claims to be a zero configuration virtual private network application and is geared soley to connect people to one another as for the zillion features comment it's actualy more simplistic to run than most instant messaging programs and as for how it works it is not open source ,but they do tell you what standards it is built around on their website. Hmm I thought you were 99% unwilling to install it ,but if you did try it and have an error like that were you using the latest beta version of the program ? did you have atleast 1 port forwarded to your pc ? and how strict are your firewall settings? I offer tech support on the Hamachi C.4.M.P Lobby website for Hamachi users there is a post on the forum for the rare user that has problems connecting to another hamachi user. btw the connection issue could have been on the other persons side and we have noticed that many of the people that get this error in civ4 can bypass it by using the join game function under multiplayer - LAN GAMES dunno why it works ,but it does. There is something still off with the civ4 code so that may explain why
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Post by zerza on Apr 26, 2006 6:50:45 GMT -5
If gs players could connect to hamachi you'd be in business What do you mean by if they could ? All they need to do is download and install the hamachi client . Its hard enough to find a ladder game as it is.
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Post by Bantams on Apr 26, 2006 8:12:30 GMT -5
5 questions for whoever 1: why should we have to install hamachi to play this game when it should have been made correctly in the first place? 2: Can anybody recommend a better mp strategy game as the connection issues with this are really pxxxing me of playing it anymore other than none ladder games (no reporting to do because you cant reconnect) 3: Come on Sid wheres the xbox 360 version xbox live as no connection issues whatsoever 4: can i have my money back now please? 5: why do I keep losing?
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