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Post by notagoodname on Apr 14, 2006 8:29:57 GMT -5
Awesome, i just heard from other players in a teamer to not use uni sufferage. This is great news.
Retire bug definitly is there though, had it crash twice now after a newb retired
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Post by zerza on Apr 14, 2006 10:06:44 GMT -5
I bought Civ4 the day it came out and it was 2 patches before I could even enter the lobby. Theres no way I'll buy an expansion, but I will pirate it That or get several RL friends to each toss in 10 bucks and use the no cd
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Post by Bantams on Apr 14, 2006 10:13:01 GMT -5
The patch is here wow it dont work though i still keep losing and i tried to reconnect to a game and the hosts firewall wouldnt let me after the patch
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Post by Avogadro on Apr 14, 2006 10:21:17 GMT -5
Frankly firewalls are a nono for smooth gaming. I doubt anyone has the capacity or desire to "hack" me during a civ game so I simply shut off firewall.
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Post by Vermillion on Apr 14, 2006 10:38:35 GMT -5
WOW the patch is out. hmmmmm maybe I can make some time and step back into the batter's box. Please do Ver, I miss killing you CS HAHAHAHA, hey CS, we never got to finish what we started. That epic was turning out to be pretty intense! Ill see what I can do. Rl and my woman have pretty much taken control the past few months (insert witty P-whipped comment here). I do miss the ladder.
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Post by Levi on Apr 14, 2006 12:32:04 GMT -5
Maybe I spend to much time helping in the lobby but I can't believe they didn't make the mute permanent nor did they add private rooms for things such as hosting a tournament. Do any of these guys actually play civ?
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 14, 2006 16:19:24 GMT -5
Maybe I spend to much time helping in the lobby but I can't believe they didn't make the mute permanent nor did they add private rooms for things such as hosting a tournament. Do any of these guys actually play civ? Sorry Levi but further lobby changes were never on the table, GS won't let anything but Arcade have those features, so be mad at them not Firaxis/Take2. As to the "retire bug" that's not completely accurate either, it's not possible to "retire" once you are dead, you have to "exit to...." So we need some more feedback of exactly what people are doing as it is not retiring. CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 14, 2006 16:22:38 GMT -5
anyone else having the problem where every time you boot the game up the patchreinstalles then closes the game at finish ? Sounds like for some reason your patch didn't completely install in the first place, you might have to uninstall and reinstall Civ4 and re-D/L the patch. I didn't have any problem with the Gamespy D/L but you might try getting the patch from the Civ4.com sight as well. CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 14, 2006 16:32:09 GMT -5
Damn! . I'll let them know asap, and lets pray that they fix it. In expansion ;D Well, we expected that expansion will be a 50$ patch, aren't we? Lets get a little more serious here, what is in the Warlord's XP is already fairly public knowledge from the many previews available, yes they will fix any bugs that are found between now and then. But I would sstronly suspect that they will make a separate patch D/L for those that don't want to buy the XP. As to the lobby connection issues, they have done as much as can be done on the game code to improve the connections. That doesn't mean that you can't still have connection issues with other players, you can't address GS server issues or peoples firewall/router/nat issues with game code. Yes a complete redesign of the MP code to go to a Server/Cleint model would help, but it's far to late for major changes like that. If there is a significant problem still with connections then I'd suggest that everyone use Hamachi, but as far as I can see it's a little too early to make that call yet. I've personally played 2 games since the patch and had no connection problems, but time will tell. CS
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Post by Tony on Apr 14, 2006 18:43:09 GMT -5
CS i was wondering, will they revert to Server/Cleint model in the XP?
Because connection issues are still the same as pre-patch.
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Post by Elledge on Apr 14, 2006 18:52:30 GMT -5
In expansion ;D Well, we expected that expansion will be a 50$ patch, aren't we? Lets get a little more serious here, what is in the Warlord's XP is already fairly public knowledge from the many previews available, yes they will fix any bugs that are found between now and then. But I would sstronly suspect that they will make a separate patch D/L for those that don't want to buy the XP. If there is a significant problem still with connections then I'd suggest that everyone use Hamachi, but as far as I can see it's a little too early to make that call yet. I've personally played 2 games since the patch and had no connection problems, but time will tell. CS Hm - I really didn't assume they would have a separate bugfix patch. That would be a really good thing. Connection stuff seems unchanged. Mostly no problems, sometimes problems.
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Post by notagoodname on Apr 14, 2006 19:09:38 GMT -5
As to the "retire bug" that's not completely accurate either, it's not possible to "retire" once you are dead, you have to "exit to...." So we need some more feedback of exactly what people are doing as it is not retiring. CS Alt-Q quits the game and crashes it for eveyone.
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Post by whiplash on Apr 14, 2006 22:14:20 GMT -5
All of this waiting for the long promised patch and the same connection issues still unresolved. I'm thinking this game is dead for MP'ers anyway. It is for me anyway.
From what I could see the number one complaint posted around here was connectivity. And what do we get? 493 changes to game features but no solution to the number one problem. This after nearly 5 months. And we hear of them working on an XP they want us to buy. For those of you who want to continue waiting, can I interest you in some land I have for sale in Florida?
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Post by Tony on Apr 14, 2006 22:32:07 GMT -5
Whiplash im somewhat confussed, you say you want to play civ4 MP. You say you want to be part of this ladder, but you seem to have a totally diffrent tone on the C3C forum. You want democracy, you want active admins, and what ever else you have demanded.
This ladders admins are WAY less active, and it is by no means a democracy (But the people on this ladder dont mind), so this is where the confussion kicks in. I wonder if you only jump on the band wagon once the wheel are in motion?
This is by no means an attack, just a confussed person.
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Post by whiplash on Apr 15, 2006 0:00:22 GMT -5
Whiplash im somewhat confussed, you say you want to play civ4 MP. You say you want to be part of this ladder, but you seem to have a totally diffrent tone on the C3C forum. You want democracy, you want active admins, and what ever else you have demanded. This ladders admins are WAY less active, and it is by no means a democracy (But the people on this ladder dont mind), so this is where the confussion kicks in. I wonder if you only jump on the band wagon once the wheel are in motion? This is by no means an attack, just a confussed person. Well, I'll attempt to eliminate the confusion. I have no "political" agenda to advance here. I just want to play the game. I am just extremely frustrated. The issues that exist on the Civ3 ladders are of no relevancy here. The reason that I have chimed in now has nothing to do with anything happening in the C3C arena; the reason is that the CIV4 patch has been released and I hear that the connectivity problems have not been fixed. I would very much like to participate in this game in the MP environment and have experienced nothing but frustration. If you care to search back to my prior posts you will see that I have never been able to connect through MP. This is the case even though I have hardware far more advanced than the "recommended system". I think CanuckSoldier will verify that. While I posted regularly some months ago about this situation, I just remained silent and patient waiting for the "final" patch. This has happened now and I hear that the connectivity issues have not been fixed. After all of that time waiting and being silent, it appears that I still will not be able to enjoy the game. It's got nothing at all to do with whatever is happening at the C3C community; just coincidental in timing.
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Post by salqadri on Apr 15, 2006 1:22:04 GMT -5
Whip its true that the issues are not entirely fixed, but its better because of small things, such as the fact that peer names are given while connecting, so you know who the problem might be if there is a problem. Furthurmore, even before this patch it was realized by a lot that something as simple as a restart fixes over 90% of the problems you might have in connecting. Try it. Finally, you may also try Hamachi, which I hear works fine. Anyhow, point is, try it out.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 15, 2006 2:54:05 GMT -5
CS i was wondering, will they revert to Server/Cleint model in the XP? Because connection issues are still the same as pre-patch. I doubt such a major change could even be done in the XP. And as others have stated here, my 2 days of playing have shown that connection problems have decreaced, and I don't see half as many complaints in the lobby as I did earlier in the week. No one promised that the patch would 100% eliminate connection issues, nothing short of eliminating the peer to peer model would do that. But the patch did deliver on improving the connection issue, and even when you do have problems with a "peer" it tells you who it is so you can tell the host. I even played with ironclad tonight who has a problematic connection and we still managed to have a long fun game even though he dropped twice. And I had my DSL fade out and I ended up with a new error message telling me that " the server had disconnected me", I ended up in my own game waiting "to hear from the host" but a 5 min reboot of Civ4 and I was hotjoining the game. So I really think that the patch is going to make like easier than before. And as far as the changes to gameplay go, they were all things that the majority of the MP or SP communities wanted. This wasn't something made up but was as a result from the feedback from all the fans forums. CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 15, 2006 3:02:13 GMT -5
Whiplash im somewhat confussed, you say you want to play civ4 MP. You say you want to be part of this ladder, but you seem to have a totally diffrent tone on the C3C forum. You want democracy, you want active admins, and what ever else you have demanded. This ladders admins are WAY less active, and it is by no means a democracy (But the people on this ladder dont mind), so this is where the confussion kicks in. I wonder if you only jump on the band wagon once the wheel are in motion? This is by no means an attack, just a confussed person. Well, I'll attempt to eliminate the confusion. I have no "political" agenda to advance here. I just want to play the game. I am just extremely frustrated. The issues that exist on the Civ3 ladders are of no relevancy here. The reason that I have chimed in now has nothing to do with anything happening in the C3C arena; the reason is that the CIV4 patch has been released and I hear that the connectivity problems have not been fixed. I would very much like to participate in this game in the MP environment and have experienced nothing but frustration. If you care to search back to my prior posts you will see that I have never been able to connect through MP. This is the case even though I have hardware far more advanced than the "recommended system". I think CanuckSoldier will verify that. While I posted regularly some months ago about this situation, I just remained silent and patient waiting for the "final" patch. This has happened now and I hear that the connectivity issues have not been fixed. After all of that time waiting and being silent, it appears that I still will not be able to enjoy the game. It's got nothing at all to do with whatever is happening at the C3C community; just coincidental in timing. Perhaps you should install the 1.61 patch and see if anything has changed Whip.... Just some stats, on tuesday we had only 327 matches played, on thurday we had 401 and on Friday we had 523, now it just might be the weekend but I think people are finding games easier to get into, but we'll see what the stats look like over the next couple weeks, and I'll compare it to the last two weeks, that is really the only way to tell if the patch is making life better here. CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 15, 2006 3:09:29 GMT -5
Whiplash im somewhat confussed, you say you want to play civ4 MP. You say you want to be part of this ladder, but you seem to have a totally diffrent tone on the C3C forum. You want democracy, you want active admins, and what ever else you have demanded. This ladders admins are WAY less active, and it is by no means a democracy (But the people on this ladder dont mind), so this is where the confussion kicks in. I wonder if you only jump on the band wagon once the wheel are in motion? This is by no means an attack, just a confussed person. While there are other issues distracting some of the admins of C4P, not all the admins are "less active" here And believe me you they might not have time to post but they are reading the forums and invites and non-reports are being handled. CS
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Post by civerdan on Apr 15, 2006 6:03:39 GMT -5
I thing I did verify is that Cossacks were not changed. So russia remains banned in Ren teamers.....
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