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Post by MMV on May 2, 2007 13:46:40 GMT -5
lol longhorn - these people can remember complex game tactics, strategies, memorize civs - their traits, and how to use them to their best advantage in a wide variety of game types and eras....
BUT -
they can't understand some ALWAYS there, simple ladder rules - report immediately after each game (the penalties may have changed, but the rule hasn't)
clearly a case of "memory by convenience" for some - "rules by convenience" for others
I ask you now, would you let these kinds of people baby-sit your children?
Or, more so, COULD you find a baby-sitter that WOULD baby-sit THEM, LOL!
(Sorry Admins - you're STUCK with the job, lol)
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Post by toratoratora on May 2, 2007 15:44:36 GMT -5
Nice Post MMV and LH for that matter OH and i am 100% backing these new rules just trying to figure out how to Pass them on in the lobby though without spamming too much! but this usually works! To report a loss on the ladder, go to www.myleague.com/civ4players/ and click on "report loss" in the left panel not always though sigh but usually
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Post by DrShot on May 2, 2007 16:33:09 GMT -5
DO YOU NOT EAT FROM THE MOUTH OF THE WEAZEL ? Don't drink the blood from the panther! Stay away from the nectar of the old wizords sleav...
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Post by deyreepher on May 6, 2007 2:24:58 GMT -5
This is just re tarded. Do you not see how this can be abused pre-CCC? How about I start a direct IP game, make it appear like a clan vs. clan game, but in reality it's me and my best buddies. So we play the game, take the screenshots, then file non-reports. Yay! We win the CCC before it ever takes off.
Penalties are re tarded in regards towards the CCC. IF the CCC was contingent upon some sort of league style play where we had a regular season, then yes, penalties would matter. Other than that, it's just another hassle to deal with that does not make things fun for the rest of us.
So it is alleged that some people have multiple accounts...what bearing does that have on the CCC? Are they going to enlist all their pseudonyms to play in an event? It's just not possible, it's slowed. I'll admit it, I have multiple gamespy accounts and play in non-ladder games all the time. Some of the behavior of ladder players are just atrocious. I won't point fingers, but a good number of you treat non-ladder players like they were worthless. Which is the bigger crime? Playing the game again like it's the very first time or being a barbarian? As I recall, the "No Barbarians" option is usually the norm for ladder games.
You can't red tape a system to death to make it work. Either the players will break first or the admins will. There are way more players than admins. There is nothing you can do about it until we get the matchmaking service that we want. So until Civ V, we'll have to deal with the trolls, the smacktards, the non-reporters. It's an imperfect system, and it's not one we will be able to fix when it's based upon a players' honour. I mean, who really gives a flying fvck about their online rep?
We've gotten this far with these guys messing up our fun, why keep crying about it? *hint* Look at Iraq...this situation is analgous. If you can't figure it out, Uncle Sam is waiting for you to sign up so that you can.
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Post by toratoratora on May 6, 2007 15:24:33 GMT -5
..A.. Merged with SDR2 for this CCC or is that Just a Rumour?
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Post by deviousdevil on May 6, 2007 19:09:33 GMT -5
This is just re tarded. Do you not see how this can be abused pre-CCC? How about I start a direct IP game, make it appear like a clan vs. clan game, but in reality it's me and my best buddies. So we play the game, take the screenshots, then file non-reports. Yay! We win the CCC before it ever takes off. Penalties are re tarded in regards towards the CCC. IF the CCC was contingent upon some sort of league style play where we had a regular season, then yes, penalties would matter. Other than that, it's just another hassle to deal with that does not make things fun for the rest of us. So it is alleged that some people have multiple accounts...what bearing does that have on the CCC? Are they going to enlist all their pseudonyms to play in an event? It's just not possible, it's slowed. I'll admit it, I have multiple gamespy accounts and play in non-ladder games all the time. Some of the behavior of ladder players are just atrocious. I won't point fingers, but a good number of you treat non-ladder players like they were worthless. Which is the bigger crime? Playing the game again like it's the very first time or being a barbarian? As I recall, the "No Barbarians" option is usually the norm for ladder games. You can't red tape a system to death to make it work. Either the players will break first or the admins will. There are way more players than admins. There is nothing you can do about it until we get the matchmaking service that we want. So until Civ V, we'll have to deal with the trolls, the smacktards, the non-reporters. It's an imperfect system, and it's not one we will be able to fix when it's based upon a players' honour. I mean, who really gives a flying fvck about their online rep? We've gotten this far with these guys messing up our fun, why keep crying about it? *hint* Look at Iraq...this situation is analgous. If you can't figure it out, Uncle Sam is waiting for you to sign up so that you can. Hehe, you alledging that is what has happened? Yes, that could happen, but it'd take abit of organisation and zero morals. As for who cares for online reputation, I do, and so do others who don't name change every two seconds. The rules are there to protect us, some of your clan ignore them and instead of teaching them the errors of their ways you are blaming the rules. Get a f**king grip.
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Post by deyreepher on May 6, 2007 22:40:21 GMT -5
Hehe, you alledging that is what has happened? Yes, that could happen, but it'd take abit of organisation and zero morals. As for who cares for online reputation, I do, and so do others who don't name change every two seconds. The rules are there to protect us, some of your clan ignore them and instead of teaching them the errors of their ways you are blaming the rules. Get a f**king grip. You can get a fvcking grip. I will give people more credit for finding ways around things than others. Sure there's idealism and morals, but the real world dictates that people will do whatever they think they can get away with. You find me a gaming community that isn't plagued by asshats, smacktards, and the plethora of people that will ruin other peoples' good time. There are a few, but for a game with the name recognition that Civ IV has, you're not going to. There will always be some sort of melodrama, controversy, or something of that nature. I'm just pointing this out, but if you want to duck your head in the sand, that's fine. Delude yourself. I didn't point out names, but if you wanted to take a cheap shot, that's your perogative. That kind of behavior feeds into all the other kinds that I was talking about, so thanks for being a demonstrator.
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Post by Tony on May 6, 2007 22:57:36 GMT -5
TBH, i would be shocked beyoud shocked if people did what you mentioned in your post to get other teams banned from the CCC. The top 5 clans definatley wouldnt do anything like this, and if you are not top 5 then whose players do you try to get penilized? If clans are willing to do such tactics, then the ladder has way bigger issues then whose gonna win the next CCC.
But on top of that im sure admin will use the law of common sense above all other laws in such cases.
I dont really think it is a ligitimate concern!
Its kinda like cooking reports, sure anyone with half a brain can do it, but really not a problem.
EDIT:: If anyone did do this, good luck getting a ladder game.
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Post by mrgametheory on May 7, 2007 2:46:24 GMT -5
rofl, cs and mookie, get a room ..A.. does not merge with other clans, other clans merge with ..A.. With no rokkitlauncher Ray can say goodbye to the possibility of any points for event 1 All your bases are belong to GameTheory
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Post by deyreepher on May 7, 2007 3:52:39 GMT -5
rofl, cs and mookie, get a room ..A.. does not merge with other clans, other clans merge with ..A.. With no rokkitlauncher Ray can say goodbye to the possibility of any points for event 1 All your bases are belong to GameTheory Rokkit is our boy...but when was the last time he scored any points for us in Event 1? That point is moot and it's time we threw someone else into that event anyhow. I'm just pointing out that some of the measures that are being taken by the ladder are pointless if you look at it in the overall scheme of things. It's not due to lack of effort on the part of the admins or community, it's just a part of gaming culture overall. There will be peace in the Middle East before the gaming world becomes a place free of asshats. Our efforts would be better spent on trying to get the developers to create a ranking system that mitigates the problems the ladder is trying to eliminate in terms of fair play. The beta testers have been trying, but unfortunately, it doesn't seem that the problem is big enough for resources to be allocated to creating a system that suits us.
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Post by tommynt on May 7, 2007 5:54:52 GMT -5
Mookie u r really trying to defend get Rokket/ ... whatever he was in this ccc, I havent read anything on these boards for 4 weeks but a suspending of this guy who betrayed clans and for whom lying is just a nothing or even something great to do was just a matter of time. No1 need not a very nice persons like him. I know what I m talking about cause ages ago I was even involved/ did know some of his bullnuts. I told him that it suckz and he should stop thing like that.
Whatever, no1 needs banned people for sure, no matter if they are technically not banned anymore during ccc, there was still some bullnuts before what makes him not deserve playing. I really have no clue why u d defend people constantly breaking rules if u r some1 who cares on rules.
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Post by eiffel on May 7, 2007 6:44:22 GMT -5
..A.. Merged with SDR2 for this CCC or is that Just a Rumour? Once something is decided, you'll be able to see it in the CCC official roster. We're studying several possibilities...
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Post by rokkitlauncher on May 7, 2007 19:35:50 GMT -5
the only names i ever held were gaman, xanten and rokkitlauncher
not superlambbanana or thevindicator
i also never joined multiple clans at the same time, and have only been a member of tx, RaY and God (as gaman)
tommy, why you feel the need to insult me here is beyond me, i have never been anything but nice towards you
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Post by tommynt on May 8, 2007 6:44:18 GMT -5
once caught lying and u r a liar forever.
In Internet some sense for truth is even more importent if u want be part of a community as trusting is much more harder then in rl
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Post by 9iron9 on May 8, 2007 7:45:43 GMT -5
why did the golfer wear two pairs of trousers............ ?
incase he got a hole in 1 !!
oooops wrong thread
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Post by cankaban on May 8, 2007 8:48:30 GMT -5
rofl!! ;D
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Post by rokkitlauncher on May 8, 2007 10:26:46 GMT -5
wtf, i havent lied to anybody, i came out about being xanten, otherwise they wouldnt have been able to prove it
maybe you should post on some other forum if you are going to make stupid statements based on no facts
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Post by Canucksoldier on May 8, 2007 17:52:30 GMT -5
wtf, i havent lied to anybody, i came out about being xanten, otherwise they wouldnt have been able to prove it maybe you should post on some other forum if you are going to make stupid statements based on no facts Actually Rokkit, I made the final decision on thurdsday night(before I had to leave for the weekend) that you were guilty based on what I seen as strong evidence from many of your close peers. This was before you officially admitted to being TSOX yourself. We are not the supreme court, I don't need a smoking gun to prove a case, just enough evidence to permit a fair decision. And I wouldn't get too self righteous about being called a liar, I have a YIM pm from you were you denied being TSOX and stated that it was your brother. Perhaps you should be working to regain your previous stature around here and not making the situation worse. CS
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Post by knupp on May 9, 2007 20:57:58 GMT -5
BURN THE NON REPORTER!
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Post by Juni on May 11, 2007 3:35:58 GMT -5
I wanted to fix the few mistakes in PAF roster (Baron-pirus instead of Baron Pirus and mr_phelps instead of Mr Phelps), but the thread is locked Abukhir, Shook and Sirhill didn't realize that their account had been deleted, they will register very soon. The others are not mistakes, but just jokes. Don't you have any sense of humour ?
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