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Post by Matlowe on Oct 8, 2007 4:39:39 GMT -5
omg everyone is dying to warriors lately. dont ask me to play anc noob teamers. even pswd noob teamers( the one i was in tonight) was full of crap player who had archer+warrior and died to warrior omfg... come on guys lets get ren+ eras happening in lobby more often and more ctons!!!!!
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Post by Bantams on Oct 8, 2007 5:21:24 GMT -5
omg everyone is dying to warriors lately. dont ask me to play anc noob teamers. even pswd noob teamers( the one i was in tonight) was full of crap player who had archer+warrior and died to warrior omfg... come on guys lets get ren+ eras happening in lobby more often and more ctons!!!!! [MUD]Matlowe withdrew. rofl aint that Childish and no i wasnt the noob in the teamer!
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Post by geforced on Oct 8, 2007 11:04:18 GMT -5
come on guys lets get ren+ eras happening in lobby more often and more ctons!!!!!
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Post by astax on Oct 8, 2007 12:46:05 GMT -5
So what you are saying someone dying 15-20 turns into the game is different from someone dying to few knights 15 turns into the game because?
Ancient era IS the best.
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Post by geforced on Oct 8, 2007 12:55:03 GMT -5
not for city elimination teamers i dont think :/
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Post by Matlowe on Oct 8, 2007 14:17:30 GMT -5
So what you are saying someone dying 15-20 turns into the game is different from someone dying to few knights 15 turns into the game because? Ancient era IS the best. You THINK ancient is the best for 1 simple reason. ITS ALL YOU PLAY! and maybe ask yourself your own question and think on it a bit. Ladder games are 2 city ELIM. In any era ren + above u can reinforce a teammate within 1-2 turns. but in anc teamer, can u reinforce your teammate? NO! In ancient teamer its more about single person's skill rather than a team game for the first 40 turns till you are all roaded etc. Maybe next time before you post think about it before u start posting like a noob.
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Post by DrShot on Oct 8, 2007 15:48:32 GMT -5
omg everyone is dying to warriors lately. dont ask me to play anc noob teamers. even pswd noob teamers( the one i was in tonight) was full of crap player who had archer+warrior and died to warrior omfg... come on guys lets get ren+ eras happening in lobby more often and more ctons!!!!! Wow. This is a game: perhaps one you cannot separate from reality. Conversely, I wonder if you act this way outside of civ. Either way, a truly pathetic display. Perhaps your MUD label should display RANK: Cry Baby instead of RANK: corporal. Complain, complain say 'oh my god' like a little girl and, for a grand finale.... quit!! Way to go! you sure showed everyone... If we beg really hard will you return?
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Post by MMV on Oct 8, 2007 20:21:29 GMT -5
Yup - whining like a virgin on prom-night
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Post by astax on Oct 9, 2007 0:30:10 GMT -5
You THINK ancient is the best for 1 simple reason. ITS ALL YOU PLAY! and maybe ask yourself your own question and think on it a bit. Ladder games are 2 city ELIM. In any era ren + above u can reinforce a teammate within 1-2 turns. but in anc teamer, can u reinforce your teammate? NO! In ancient teamer its more about single person's skill rather than a team game for the first 40 turns till you are all roaded etc. Maybe next time before you post think about it before u start posting like a noob. It's not all I play, I tried every era, I found Ancient most suitable. You cant reinforce your teammate within 1-2 turns in Ren unless you are by him (varies by map) or you have all horse. Secondly you should have more than 1-2 turns notice that someone is coming in ancient. If you don't then it's your fault you die. If you let some guy road up 2 tiles from your cultural boarder, then obviously you deserve it. Maybe it is more about player than a team, but it also means you can win even if you lose a teammate. That is hardly the case in later eras.
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Post by Matlowe on Oct 9, 2007 1:15:50 GMT -5
omg everyone is dying to warriors lately. dont ask me to play anc noob teamers. even pswd noob teamers( the one i was in tonight) was full of crap player who had archer+warrior and died to warrior omfg... come on guys lets get ren+ eras happening in lobby more often and more ctons!!!!! Wow. This is a game: perhaps one you cannot separate from reality. Conversely, I wonder if you act this way outside of civ. Either way, a truly pathetic display. Perhaps your MUD label should display RANK: Cry Baby instead of RANK: corporal. Complain, complain say 'oh my god' like a little girl and, for a grand finale.... quit!! Way to go! you sure showed everyone... If we beg really hard will you return? Wow. Now is there any harm in variety Shot? Or would u rather play the same game over and over and over and over AGAIN. Until like me (because im obviously different) That u get sick and tired of the one game and how they all end?? Civ is FAR more larger than start separated anc teamers ALL the time, of which u enjoy every night. Or maybe this is what U are like in real life? Civ has bored me with all these crappy teamers up lately and they are finishing so quickly that they ARENT even enjoyable anymore. now u have a problem with me leaving the ladder because i dont like this games much anymore? thanks for caring so much about me!
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Post by Matlowe on Oct 9, 2007 1:38:12 GMT -5
You THINK ancient is the best for 1 simple reason. ITS ALL YOU PLAY! and maybe ask yourself your own question and think on it a bit. Ladder games are 2 city ELIM. In any era ren + above u can reinforce a teammate within 1-2 turns. but in anc teamer, can u reinforce your teammate? NO! In ancient teamer its more about single person's skill rather than a team game for the first 40 turns till you are all roaded etc. Maybe next time before you post think about it before u start posting like a noob. It's not all I play, I tried every era, I found Ancient most suitable. You cant reinforce your teammate within 1-2 turns in Ren unless you are by him (varies by map) or you have all horse. Secondly you should have more than 1-2 turns notice that someone is coming in ancient. If you don't then it's your fault you die. If you let some guy road up 2 tiles from your cultural boarder, then obviously you deserve it. Maybe it is more about player than a team, but it also means you can win even if you lose a teammate. That is hardly the case in later eras. 1. why u speak about horse is beyond me, u are only talking about ren? any era ren+ above u have way mroe chance of saving a teammate than any other era. railroads and tanks etc aswell. 2. 1-2 turns in ancient isnt alot of time. it takes 1 turn to see a warrior ( moved at 0 sec previous turn) and then bam u are dead. whereas in future eras there are spies and resources available to help u scout, and u can even start with two explorers etc. Slavery and universal suffrage is available in later eras allowing to buy/slave units whenever needed, whereas in ancient u cant if someone outmoves u. If you don't then it's your fault you die. this is exactly correct. not your teammates fault or anyone elses, but your own. whereas in a later era teamer u have 1min + a turn to make a move and to inform weaker teammates of what to do, and to reinforce them. a much better team game than an ancient solo game. 3. startign with a 4v5 in anc start separate ten turns into game, is alot harder to kill in ancient as u have no army, and not enough pop to slave a army to kill quick and play catch up. later era u can totally slave/buy army so fast and road and stack and kill so faster. 4. The End. 5. (for crypto) hofzeluches: I'm moving in with desertmonkey hofzeluches: he's a gay rich man desertmonkey: yes i am hofzeluches: he's gonna pay me 1 million for a blow job
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Post by cryptococcus on Oct 9, 2007 2:47:44 GMT -5
Damn, what is #5? I was really looking forward to it as I get dumber by the second as I read this thread.
Let it go matlowe!
Btw, (9)iron, "let it go matlowe" could be the beginning to a great poem about noobs.
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Post by 9iron9 on Oct 9, 2007 3:38:34 GMT -5
there once was a noob called matlowe, who god damn just couldnt let go, the fact that nowaday that noob teamers are gay, his dummy out the pram he did throw.
on another note mat has a very good point. when you bought supermario as a kid did u all get to level 3 and start again ? i think not, but thats basically what your doing with civ.
alot of the later eras are easy to pick up, all u have to do is relate the later units to earlier units and its simple
u have the basic same, cavalry / grenedier / riflemen. which have same sort of bonus as the chariot / axe / spear triangle.
cannons come into play if u tech as do catapults.
u start with 3 cities
u can build units straight away so no resource whinges
u get to play with flucking booooooats.
i can probably name only about 10 i know who play these eras well. if ur a half decent player with no major reetardness issues and are playing with knowledgable players all u have to do is say " i dont want to be an anc repeat reetard anymore, tell me what civics to run and wht unit does what and il play indu with you "
maybe youve deleted the post ren data from your machines to save space and run anc games quicker, idk
the worst tht will happen is u get killed, but then what would u rather say, i died to a few guys with swords, or i died to these guys with guns.
think about it noobs
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Post by nemesis666 on Oct 9, 2007 8:31:56 GMT -5
I died to these guys with guns
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Post by tamijo on Oct 9, 2007 8:37:35 GMT -5
So what you are saying someone dying 15-20 turns into the game is different from someone dying to few knights 15 turns into the game because? Ancient era IS the best. You THINK ancient is the best for 1 simple reason. ITS ALL YOU PLAY! and maybe ask yourself your own question and think on it a bit. Ladder games are 2 city ELIM. In any era ren + above u can reinforce a teammate within 1-2 turns. but in anc teamer, can u reinforce your teammate? NO! In ancient teamer its more about single person's skill rather than a team game for the first 40 turns till you are all roaded etc. Maybe next time before you post think about it before u start posting like a noob. I got killed to warrior in a game a few weeks ago, and no reason to try denying anything, was due to mistakes i made, so bad i cant get myself to mention here, but also that team wanted me to move out my first unit, even if it was clear, i was in a 1v2 front situation. Well now to my point: With the interest declining a bit, it will be harder to get ladder games filled, and it will often be mixed skill games. Now why is (skilled) people starting to host "start seperated" ANC teamers, if they are not willing to take the chance of someone getting killed. The point of start seperated is excatly that you risk more unbalanced start positions, and gain more varriation. BTW i aggree with Mat, just need a MOD to remove the spy, and REN would be clearly more fun than ANC. NB.: Seen many fairly good player get killed early in ANC, just happens sometimes.
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Post by ezy on Oct 9, 2007 11:30:36 GMT -5
ren is alot more fun. i have noticed at least 1-2 being hosted a day. which is a start
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Post by Polydeukes on Oct 9, 2007 11:59:14 GMT -5
the worst tht will happen is u get killed, but then what would u rather say, i died to a few guys with swords, or i died to these guys with guns. wtf guns are not for men. A sword is a real weapon, there is nothing better than a japanese sword blade. And yes this a challenge for a swordfight.
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Post by Tony on Oct 9, 2007 12:35:06 GMT -5
Ren is so simplistic now IMO.
Making a stack take very little skill, you simply make a few workers (which are really cheap - especially when a chop gives 20 hammers, and when your capital is in civil service) and bobs your uncle!
Add spies and culture bombs to this and .... uuugh.
All this being said ren does make a nice change from ancient TBG, which is getting awfully tiring and very routine for alot of players!
As for dying to a warrior, i had something crazy happen to me about 3 weeks ago. I was in an ancient TBG(start anywhere), with my warrior on the edge of my land, and another warrior coming in 3. Right then an enermy warrior pops out of the black. The enermy is a fool and attacks my warrior in a hill with 2 turns fortification. But he win, WTF!!! To add insult to injury he gets 5 XP's for 1 battle. He gives his warrior double forest and gg.
So no one is allowed to complain about bad luck, when im getting luck like that!
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Post by chuckynorris on Oct 9, 2007 17:14:05 GMT -5
Should be an easy new ladder rule. If somebody dies to 2 units or less in the first 30 turns in anceint, (and the % chance of him dying was over 20%), he reports all, and the game ends. Player dying early probably wouldn't mind this, as he feels pretty guilty (I know I do).
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Post by thegreatsatan on Oct 9, 2007 20:43:32 GMT -5
Theres nothin stoppin a host from setting up the game with that rule. Just gotta remeber to do it. If early kills are so bad, why do we all try are best to make them?
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