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Post by Lestat on Oct 24, 2006 8:25:31 GMT -5
Now serious. Miss game why u posted this here? Are u talking truth ? U have screen shoots (if u have it ... then u cheat). How u know that u are leading on score when u was afk Why u dont just quit this game and reported And u all fellow nasty sickies why u atacking people in those games which maybe dont kno that Mrs is afk U are full of hate. Think that u cant be members of our community bc elle all your post are full of hate...
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Post by IanDC on Oct 24, 2006 9:03:10 GMT -5
In my opinion there is a big difference between take the full time to play, and wait full time without answer to others players. chris. I agree. It's a matter of common courtesy or lack of more to the point.
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Post by mrgametheory on Oct 24, 2006 9:04:56 GMT -5
The first line out of Lestat is "I dont know why are people soo stupid that belive in mrsgametheory words. " He than goes on to dis everyone for being so full of hate." I posted that I was speaking with someoneduring the last few turns of the game, and that this player notified me of everything that happened and was happening, plus when I came back to my computer from brunch, I was able to view the entire game from when the vote screen came up plus I had the entire chat log from the game . But that is just common sense and every person up until Lestat has been able to realize that I had that , but he still went on to say this "How u know that u are leading on score when u was afk. Anyways, enough stating facts which happens to make a player look bad before they are able to edit when they typed. All I want is my reports from ladder players who broke the rules. The players involved in the game were not a bunch of newbies but some very respect members of this community. I have given most of the names to admins and I expect the situation to be resolved before admins get too side tracked with locking this thread because of players maliciously attacking one another.
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Post by Lestat on Oct 24, 2006 9:10:34 GMT -5
Think that u broke rules...our league is multiplayer not afk league. I heard that they reload (waited for u 10 min) and u dont shown.
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Post by Lestat on Oct 24, 2006 9:14:19 GMT -5
The first line out of Lestat is "I dont know why are people soo stupid that belive in mrsgametheory words. " He than goes on to dis everyone for being so full of hate." I posted that I was speaking with someoneduring the last few turns of the game, and that this player notified me of everything that happened and was happening, plus when I came back to my computer from brunch, I was able to view the entire game from when the vote screen came up plus I had the entire chat log from the game . But that is just common sense and every person up until Lestat has been able to realize that I had that , but he still went on to say this "How u know that u are leading on score when u was afk. Anyways, enough stating facts which happens to make a player look bad before they are able to edit when they typed. All I want is my reports from ladder players who broke the rules. The players involved in the game were not a bunch of newbies but some very respect members of this community. I have given most of the names to admins and I expect the situation to be resolved before admins get too side tracked with locking this thread because of players maliciously attacking one another. Hmmm u posted screens or chat log here or that peps have supernatural power? About hate ... that is just common sense and every person been able to realize that if he look at red quoted text.
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Post by MMV on Oct 24, 2006 9:30:32 GMT -5
All I want is my reports from ladder players who broke the rules. The players involved in the game were not a bunch of newbies but some very respect members of this community. I have given most of the names to admins and I expect the situation to be resolved before admins get too side tracked with locking this thread because of players maliciously attacking one another. Oddly, that's what they want from you I think you're going to be very disappointed.
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Post by mrgametheory on Oct 24, 2006 10:59:02 GMT -5
;D We have received a complaint that you failed to report one of your Ladder losses. Attached below is the complaint that was submitted to our Admin Team by your opponent. Please read it over and see if it is accurate. Please contact us with any information you have regarding this match. Thanks for your time and prompt response! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Below is a copy of the mail sent to us by the member accusing you of failing to report your loss. Please reply promptly to this mail if you wish to dispute this claim with brief details of your side of the story. If you fail to respond this match could be posted against your account automatically. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: avrieeee (versus MrGameTheory) Match Date: Oct 22 Players Involved In: - Avrieeee - Pinetar - Alice - Earl-Harewoud - Rush-Buster - Cv431410 - LupusinFabula - MrGameTheory Morover I have to complain against Him. he has been Afk after turn 20, without leave the game. We have had toreload the game hardly. """"""""""""""""he has been Afk after turn 20, without leave the game. We have had toreload the game hardly."""""""""""""""""""""" The statment from the host of the game himself. They reloaded this game because I was AFK and Kicking the nuts out of them with my Automated civ so they " NOT WANTING TO DEAL WITH WAITTING" rebooted ((((( WHICH IS NOT A VALID REASON TO REBOOT THE GAME UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES)))). Would you like me to continue posting things by the very players themselves "who were in the game" to make them look worse or will I just get my damn reports please. There is a reason why none of the players who were in that game have said a damn thing on this thread and that is because I am right and based on the ladder rules they are wrong. Instead you have these 3rd party co signers like Lestat and MMV here to pick a fight and fight for something they know absolutly nothing about. I knew I could beat these guys with a self automated Civ and they broke the rules not me. I dont Give a Flying f**k about morals, put me on your DNP list for all I care. I am here to win NOW GIVE ME MY DAMN REPORTS.
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Post by deviousdevil on Oct 24, 2006 11:10:32 GMT -5
I think the AI should get the reports...after all he subbed for MGT and won the game.
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Post by MMV on Oct 24, 2006 12:14:14 GMT -5
them AI's never register for the ladder...
nor do they maintain a valid email account
they should be booted so they can enjoy mgt in the penalty box lounge.
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Post by MMV on Oct 24, 2006 12:19:15 GMT -5
They reloaded this game because I was AFK and Kicking the nuts out of them with my Automated civ so they.... I knew I could beat these guys with a self automated Civ... I am here to win... No, you weren't there at all, lol - and you admit it.
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Post by MMV on Oct 24, 2006 12:22:42 GMT -5
There is a reason why none of the players who were in that game have said a damn thing on this thread Correct! NEVER wrestle with a pig; everyone gets dirty and the pig enjoys it!
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Post by tommynt on Oct 24, 2006 12:40:20 GMT -5
I agree with MMV that being afk and therefore delaying game for 45 turns is unsporty. Even when it s maybe not totally against rules there s at least no reason to complain after against others.
On other hands if some1 really droped out of game on purpose this is even more unsporty. Some1 doing this should imo be penaliezed with something like 2 week break.
But then there is no way that u want get reports when u arent there for the reload gt.
Doing both such stuff goin afk for long aswell as droping on purpose ll destroy ladder in long run. Remember that we all are here for fun not for reports or records like who can be longest afk and still win. Once reports get more important as fun of playing this game and ladder ll die even faster
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Post by Bantams on Oct 24, 2006 13:02:50 GMT -5
From Ladder rules
"Once you start a match you are responsible for completing it. If you have to leave before the game is finished for any reason it is considered a loss and you need to promptly report it.[glow=red,2,300][/glow]you left the game
Players entering games should know they are able to dedicate several hours of play time, or they shouldn't start the game"
Sorry MGT but that says it all IMO you should have said sorry guys i need a sub
Maybe the rules need changing slightly so it says something like when entering games you should BE in the game for the full duration of play.
leaving for 30 minutes or more and failure to return may result in the other players reloading the game and you having to file a report to all the players in the game
After all if you had dropped and failed to return in the 10 minutes window you would have had to report anyways.
so just be a gent and do the reports
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Post by mrgametheory on Oct 24, 2006 13:22:37 GMT -5
Sorry people, it was a nice try, but all the ladder rules you are quoting deal with a player actually leaving a game. i attempted to make every resonable effort to continue playin the game and that meant lkeaving my computer on. If the rules will be changed afterwards that is fine, but based on the actual rules I am justified in all actions. Were not talking about the end of ladder, there is a reason why this issue has never come up in 1 year and thats because noone does this, so dont be talking bull tommy. If you people don't wnana play me than add me to your DNP list. If you arnt good enough to beat a player when he is afk than thats too bad. I still offered my opponents a challenege I was in first palce and was easily winning the game. If you cant kill an afk player or removing him from first palce by ingame reasons, thats your problem not mine. To restart a game for these reasons is not acceptable. I TOOK A RISK, IT PAID OFF, I DESERVE THE WIN, THE END
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Post by alice on Oct 24, 2006 13:35:24 GMT -5
lol i remember that game, i was afk about 1/2 of that game as i had company over watching the bronco game, well in fact i was soo afk that i nearly missed joining the reload, i didnt even know why we we reloaded.
anyway no chance in hell im gonna report. but if i knew that that was the reason for the reload i surely would have protested it, for what its worth, i hate forced reloads in any circumstance, they did wait ten min as well, i know, because if they hadnt then they would have lost me on the reload.
i rather thought there was a better reason for the reload,
for what its worth i seriously doubt that you would have won. the last 20 turns have the greatest point change with artist bombs ect. if you thought your automated civ was gonna win then your kidding yourself i think you overestimated yourself
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Post by churchill1 on Oct 24, 2006 13:53:03 GMT -5
i think you overestimated yourself MGT, overestimate himself? Never!
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Post by yilar on Oct 24, 2006 14:20:51 GMT -5
There is no rule that says players can't drop once and agree to rehost instead to get rid of afk player. There is a rule that says you have to show up for reload/rehost within 10 mins. It's not that hard to see who has the rules on their side.
The only reason this hasnt happened before is because afk players usually lose or haven't cared about those few reports. But apprently someone cares enough about a handfull of reports to make an entire thread about it.
Following MGT's logic you could join ctons and turn on p2p from turn1 and then go afk, let's see how many turns people will wait before rehosting. After that you can claim the others players did something against the "rules" and get your free reports, even though you didn't really play (other than setting automated worker and build/research cue)
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Post by Tony on Oct 24, 2006 14:28:26 GMT -5
I think its lame lame lame, people reloading because someone is afk, if you cant kill a guy thats afk, then you slowed(Slowed? i said ret@rded) IMO!
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Post by alice on Oct 24, 2006 14:28:48 GMT -5
frankly, you only deserve a win, if you win. imo you seriously asking for the admins to award you a win based on the strength of your position, well over 20 turns from the end. that is absurd.
i have left games running auto b4 only to find that i didnt finish it as there was a reload, or a player who quits and as i was afk i dont vote on the votescreen, and hence force a reload. in these circumstance i accepted my losses and reported, i took the risk, and really its quite common that a player quits and then everyone gets hung up at the vote screen when the afk member never votes. kinda rude really, but i will probably try it again,
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Post by MMV on Oct 24, 2006 15:27:28 GMT -5
Sorry people, it was a nice try, but all the ladder rules you are quoting deal with a player actually leaving a game you actually "LEFT" as you "went to brunch with a friend" without regard to the ladder rule stating "every attempt to finish a game" you made NO attempt to finish the game and you CONTINUALLY say so, lol (well, maybe you DID try if you turned down the dessert cart at brunch in an effort to get back to the game) so you "actually left a game" those are your OWN quotes, lol And stop asking "WHY" people respond to your post, you POSTED it for responses, lol. in fact, yet another ladder rule you're breaking by opening this thread and continuing to post about it is - 11. ADMINS ARBITRATE DISPUTES: Ladder Admins will make every attempt to come to a fair and just decision when reviewing disputes. League members agree to abide by the decision of an Admin. League members are encouraged to present their case for resolution but when a decision is made and ruled upon, the issue should be considered closed unless there are extenuating circumstances. Continued flaming or bashing in the game lobby, chat rooms, email, or forum will be considered reason for penalizing a playerJust so I know if we meet in a game again... which ladder rules do you consider worthy of following and which one's don't you consider worthy? I just want to know so that I'm familiar with MGT rules and policies in a game. (thanks in advance)
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