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Post by MookieNJ on Jul 2, 2006 13:03:54 GMT -5
I plan on playing warlords the day it comes out. The expansion is more polished and there's more depth to the game. As for connectivity issues.... many of us have learned who and who not to play with. The problem is on the player end most of the time, IMHO. I try not to play with people who have Pentium 3, 512 mb RAM and a dial up connection. Simply put zhenon, that is just not true! I connect to almost everyone, but some days i dont and sometimes people cant connect to me! Hot joining almost always has somsone you cant connect to even though you connected to them just 5 minutes ago. Agreed. While there are some people who are chronic laggers or who have chronic connection issues, other times GameSpy just "poops the bed" and players who were connected fine 5 minutes ago suddenly can no longer connect to each other. Sometimes a good peer will put up a new game, a second good peer will join, and then nobody else will be able to join ... this will go on for 20 minutes or so, and then everything will work fine again. There are definitely a lot of non-user end problems going on here. On a side note, I have been playing a little Day Of Defeat (FPS) on the side. Do you know how many ports I had to open? Do you know how many connection issues I have had? ZERO! Oh well.
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Post by knupp on Jul 3, 2006 16:00:06 GMT -5
Bottom line is firaxis screwed up. It's horrible business. I can sit here in my chair right now and say I won't buy the expansion if they don't fix the problems. But I will probably end up buying it anyways. Firaxis obviously doesn't care about the connection issues. Nothing anybody can say can make me think different. If they gave a damn about the MP community they would have fixed the problems when they found out about them, in a patch, NOT in an expansion. Of course that's circumstantial on if they even fix the connection problems in WL...which I doubt they will.
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Post by deyreepher on Jul 3, 2006 20:09:31 GMT -5
HereIf you don't feel like playing Civ....go fish.
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Post by MookieNJ on Jul 3, 2006 20:46:19 GMT -5
If you don't feel like playing Civ....go fish. I think it's just the opposite -- a lot of people do feel like playing Civ, but when connection problems get bad, it's really frustrating.
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Post by eiffel on Jul 3, 2006 21:51:55 GMT -5
Well, they'll find it useful to fix multiplayer issues when they'll ask us to pay a monthly fee to play online... my bet is Civ5. Actually, the million civilization IV users don't play online but solo.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jul 4, 2006 1:57:28 GMT -5
Well like the millions of WoW MP players I'd be glad to get a server based sytem that works, even if it meant a monthly fee.
CS
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Post by zzZhenon on Jul 4, 2006 2:08:14 GMT -5
I don't do monthly fee games.... so if Civ5 goes that route, then I guess I won't play Though I'm sure I'd still buy the game lol
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Post by Elledge on Jul 4, 2006 3:12:36 GMT -5
WoW's $15 per month pays for content upgrades. Every three months they release free content that amounts to more new things than Warlords has.
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Post by tamijo on Jul 4, 2006 6:29:54 GMT -5
Off course ill get Warlords, after all the hours off CIV4 played (connection issues or not) the price i'we payed/hour comes down to next to nothing.
If ill play it online or not, depends on how many player's will be in lobby, but my guess will be, that most ladder players will end up playing warlords.
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Post by Bantams on Jul 4, 2006 6:40:11 GMT -5
I ordered the add on months ago so dont worry tamijo at least we can do 1v1
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Post by Magzi on Jul 4, 2006 6:44:57 GMT -5
I've already ordered Warlords too................but I might spend time learning how to play it before unleashing myself into the lions den
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Post by [KC]Bopper on Jul 4, 2006 11:22:13 GMT -5
This ties in with the evil plans of us 'recent ladder noobs', we'll play on-line first while the vets are playin' with themselves, and then we'll take over the civ world! Bwah ha ha!
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Post by tamijo on Jul 5, 2006 1:16:00 GMT -5
I guess ill go online right away, get my azz kicked so often allready, will be no change.
K bantams, we'll be the poiners off warlord, havent ordered yet but i guess it wont be hard to get where i live.
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Post by Ellestar on Jul 5, 2006 2:34:14 GMT -5
Well like the millions of WoW MP players I'd be glad to get a server based sytem that works, even if it meant a monthly fee. CS Like the millions of Battle.net players (Starcraft/Warcraft/Diablo) i prefer to get a server based system that works and doesn't require a monthly fee.
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Post by whiplash on Jul 5, 2006 22:24:34 GMT -5
Well, it didn't happen with CIV4. The "majority" of the C3C players did not migrate to CIV4. This despite all of the early hoopla about hotjoin and other features that were announced pre-release. So, what makes you think that the CIV4 community will migrate to WarLords? Geez, Whip. Haven't you gotten tired of the "I want to quietly spread insidious hate" routine? You don't play it, so go away. I'm not spreading any "hate"; it's just my observation. I think that the ladder admin leadership expected a mass migration to CIV4 by the C3C ladder community as was seen from PTW to C3C. That didn't happen for a variety of reasons. My observation is that the majority of CIV4 ladder players are new faces. I guess I hit a sore nerve with the hotjoin comment. In response to your comment about me not playing the game so that I should just go away, I guess I just will. Just so you know though, the game is impossible for me to play in MP. The first problem as has been discussed ad nauseum is the connectivity issue. The second one is a problem that Firaxis won't do anything about. The game is impossible to play in MP for anyone who is colorblind. I mentioned this during the beta test; but I don't expect that Firaxis would make any adjustments for the small potential market having this "disability". All of the rich graphics and candy colors that Firaxis expects to be attractive to the "normal vision" market are really a serious detriment to the 10% of males who are red/green colorblind. I've played many, many SP game of CIV4 and they are all the same. I just don't see the enemy units without serious squinting and micro inspection. The game tells me that I've been landed by an enemy; but it takes me 5 minutes to find just where that is on the map. Obviously, that won't work in MP. While my "disability" is a handicap in C3C, it's an absolute impediment in CIV4. So, I'll find something else to do.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jul 6, 2006 12:33:57 GMT -5
Well Whip your "observations" always seem to have a decidedly negative slant to them, and it's obvious that more than a few people see that when reading your posts.
The ladder admins didn't expect anything, we had no crystal ball, we simply wanted to make sure that the MP community was well postioned to deal with Civ4 while maintaining our postion as the MP community in C3C. And that we did successfully.
I know we were caught of guard by the strong negative reaction of some people in the C3C community to the existance of the Civ4 community. But we all live and learn. I don't think that C3Cers needed to be threatened by Civ4 at all and that both can exist together for everyones enjoyment.
Yes some C3Cers now play Civ4 and many stayed with C3C, that's all a personal choice. I'd estimate that only about 30% of C4P consists of old C3C players and the rest of the community is new. This is fine and the Civ4 community will evolve it's own way as did C3P threw out it's history.
As to the your colour issues, I sympathize that not all problems with the game have been solved, but we still have a thriving community and it's my goal to see it continue to thrive despite the issues with the game that Firaxis seems unable or unwilling to solve.
I would suggest that you try a graphics mod like the BlueMarble mod, I'm not sure if it would help or not, but it's worth a try.
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Post by Bantams on Jul 6, 2006 12:39:35 GMT -5
also a lot of us didnt bother with c3c i didnt like it i prefered ptw so did a lot of ppl here i think
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Post by whiplash on Jul 6, 2006 14:33:08 GMT -5
Well Whip your "observations" always seem to have a decidedly negative slant to them, and it's obvious that more than a few people see that when reading your posts. The ladder admins didn't expect anything, we had no crystal ball, we simply wanted to make sure that the MP community was well postioned to deal with Civ4 while maintaining our postion as the MP community in C3C. And that we did successfully. I know we were caught of guard by the strong negative reaction of some people in the C3C community to the existance of the Civ4 community. But we all live and learn. I don't think that C3Cers needed to be threatened by Civ4 at all and that both can exist together for everyones enjoyment. Yes some C3Cers now play Civ4 and many stayed with C3C, that's all a personal choice. I'd estimate that only about 30% of C4P consists of old C3C players and the rest of the community is new. This is fine and the Civ4 community will evolve it's own way as did C3P threw out it's history. As to the your colour issues, I sympathize that not all problems with the game have been solved, but we still have a thriving community and it's my goal to see it continue to thrive despite the issues with the game that Firaxis seems unable or unwilling to solve. I would suggest that you try a graphics mod like the BlueMarble mod, I'm not sure if it would help or not, but it's worth a try. CS The way I read it, you and I are saying the same thing. So why is my observation "negative"?
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Post by MookieNJ on Jul 6, 2006 17:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jul 6, 2006 18:55:36 GMT -5
Well Whip your "observations" always seem to have a decidedly negative slant to them, and it's obvious that more than a few people see that when reading your posts. The ladder admins didn't expect anything, we had no crystal ball, we simply wanted to make sure that the MP community was well postioned to deal with Civ4 while maintaining our postion as the MP community in C3C. And that we did successfully. I know we were caught of guard by the strong negative reaction of some people in the C3C community to the existance of the Civ4 community. But we all live and learn. I don't think that C3Cers needed to be threatened by Civ4 at all and that both can exist together for everyones enjoyment. Yes some C3Cers now play Civ4 and many stayed with C3C, that's all a personal choice. I'd estimate that only about 30% of C4P consists of old C3C players and the rest of the community is new. This is fine and the Civ4 community will evolve it's own way as did C3P threw out it's history. As to the your colour issues, I sympathize that not all problems with the game have been solved, but we still have a thriving community and it's my goal to see it continue to thrive despite the issues with the game that Firaxis seems unable or unwilling to solve. I would suggest that you try a graphics mod like the BlueMarble mod, I'm not sure if it would help or not, but it's worth a try. CS The way I read it, you and I are saying the same thing. So why is my observation "negative"? I guess it's just in the way we present our opinions CS
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