[KC]Bopper
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Post by [KC]Bopper on Jun 30, 2006 12:28:20 GMT -5
With the Warlords expansion being released shortly(?), what will be the implications for Ladder games? I understand that the expansion adds some basic game tweaks along with the new stuff - scenarios/traits/maps/etc. Any thoughts about what happens when some Ladder players have it and some don't? (By the "it" I of course mean the expansion, not the "it" as in game skill... because although I am buying the expansion "it" I may never gain the game skill "it"...
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Post by MookieNJ on Jun 30, 2006 12:34:32 GMT -5
I'd guess that at first some in the ladder community will rush out to buy Warlords and start playing Warlords ladder games while some will hold out and continue to play Vanilla civ. If the Warlords feedback is positive, I'm sure most will swithc over. If it's negative ... then we'll probably be playing a lot of Vanilla civ.
Personally, I am looking forward to the new expansion pack. It will be interesting to see what new strategies will be possible with the new civ traits, UUs, and the Great General unit!
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Post by Bantams on Jun 30, 2006 12:52:35 GMT -5
I looking forward to being able to wall my borders stopping you guys from choking me ;D nice new picks at IGN btw them walls look so good
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jun 30, 2006 23:14:38 GMT -5
As far as reporting goes, both CIV and CWL will be treated the same. As to were the majority of ladder players migrate too, we will have to wait and see. CWL does offer some game improvements that are interesting to MP, so I suspect that eventually that is were the majority of the ladder will end up.
CS
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Post by notagoodname on Jun 30, 2006 23:20:06 GMT -5
If firaxis are smart warlords should show original and warlords game in the lobby. That way you could easily join either game type depending on what's going. Otherwise i imagine the ladder community is just going to be split.
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Post by whiplash on Jul 1, 2006 0:17:23 GMT -5
As far as reporting goes, both CIV and CWL will be treated the same. As to were the majority of ladder players migrate too, we will have to wait and see. CWL does offer some game improvements that are interesting to MP, so I suspect that eventually that is were the majority of the ladder will end up. CS Well, it didn't happen with CIV4. The "majority" of the C3C players did not migrate to CIV4. This despite all of the early hoopla about hotjoin and other features that were announced pre-release. So, what makes you think that the CIV4 community will migrate to WarLords?
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Post by zzZhenon on Jul 1, 2006 0:34:02 GMT -5
As far as reporting goes, both CIV and CWL will be treated the same. As to were the majority of ladder players migrate too, we will have to wait and see. CWL does offer some game improvements that are interesting to MP, so I suspect that eventually that is were the majority of the ladder will end up. CS I think we should call it C4W
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Post by alice on Jul 1, 2006 1:02:15 GMT -5
i will play it and i expect that it will have resolved the retire bug
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Post by tommynt on Jul 1, 2006 2:17:44 GMT -5
screw the nuts - wtf these dumbhols make us pay money for a patch
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Post by knupp on Jul 1, 2006 8:50:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'll be buying the expansion pak if it doesn't fix the connection problems that should have already been fixed. Maybe I'm just cheap but I don't think I should have to pay for a patch like Tommy said.
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Post by GERMANIA on Jul 1, 2006 8:56:21 GMT -5
Well Guys i understand your anger about that they didn't fix the problems about the connection, but don't attack a product you haven't played yet, i believe when the Addon will release all gone get better. And about the ladder well i believe it gone be the same like the other 3 years how it was all will upgrade to the Addon and it will get standard for us! Well my tip for the next 4 weeks till the Addon will release, relax abit and give the Addon a chance
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Post by Gogf on Jul 1, 2006 10:33:44 GMT -5
Firaxis seems to be in a very difficult situation with the expansion. If the connection issue is fixed, people will say that they are paying for a patch. If it's not, they'll complain about it not being fixed.
I think we should recognize that Firaxis is in a lose-lose situation. That said, I obviously think it would be great if the connection issue were fixed.
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Post by MookieNJ on Jul 1, 2006 13:25:35 GMT -5
Firaxis seems to be in a very difficult situation with the expansion. If the connection issue is fixed, people will say that they are paying for a patch. If it's not, they'll complain about it not being fixed. I think we should recognize that Firaxis is in a lose-lose situation. That said, I obviously think it would be great if the connection issue were fixed. Firaxis can easily remove themselves from this lose-lose situation. If they have fixed the connection problems in Warlords, they can simply release a patch for Vanilla civ that implements the connectivity fixes.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jul 1, 2006 16:23:09 GMT -5
As far as reporting goes, both CIV and CWL will be treated the same. As to were the majority of ladder players migrate too, we will have to wait and see. CWL does offer some game improvements that are interesting to MP, so I suspect that eventually that is were the majority of the ladder will end up. CS Well, it didn't happen with CIV4. The "majority" of the C3C players did not migrate to CIV4. This despite all of the early hoopla about hotjoin and other features that were announced pre-release. So, what makes you think that the CIV4 community will migrate to WarLords? Your using the wrong comparison Whip, this is like the difference between Civ3 PTW and Civ3 Conquests, and I expect a similar migration, but I could be wrong. Time will tell. CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jul 1, 2006 16:26:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'll be buying the expansion pak if it doesn't fix the connection problems that should have already been fixed. Maybe I'm just cheap but I don't think I should have to pay for a patch like Tommy said. The connection problems are not simple, so I would make your decision to buy CWL based on it's content, not whether it is a good patch or not, which was never it's purpose. There's lots of good info on what is in CWL's at CFC and poly, more leaders/traits/UU's/Unique building etc. CS
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Post by zzZhenon on Jul 2, 2006 0:37:47 GMT -5
I plan on playing warlords the day it comes out. The expansion is more polished and there's more depth to the game.
As for connectivity issues.... many of us have learned who and who not to play with. The problem is on the player end most of the time, IMHO. I try not to play with people who have Pentium 3, 512 mb RAM and a dial up connection.
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Post by friedrichpsitalon on Jul 2, 2006 6:39:31 GMT -5
As far as reporting goes, both CIV and CWL will be treated the same. As to were the majority of ladder players migrate too, we will have to wait and see. CWL does offer some game improvements that are interesting to MP, so I suspect that eventually that is were the majority of the ladder will end up. CS Well, it didn't happen with CIV4. The "majority" of the C3C players did not migrate to CIV4. This despite all of the early hoopla about hotjoin and other features that were announced pre-release. So, what makes you think that the CIV4 community will migrate to WarLords? Geez, Whip. Haven't you gotten tired of the "I want to quietly spread insidious hate" routine? You don't play it, so go away.
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Post by tommynt on Jul 2, 2006 8:33:04 GMT -5
i d like whip to play civ4
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Post by Gogf on Jul 2, 2006 9:44:39 GMT -5
Firaxis seems to be in a very difficult situation with the expansion. If the connection issue is fixed, people will say that they are paying for a patch. If it's not, they'll complain about it not being fixed. I think we should recognize that Firaxis is in a lose-lose situation. That said, I obviously think it would be great if the connection issue were fixed. Firaxis can easily remove themselves from this lose-lose situation. If they have fixed the connection problems in Warlords, they can simply release a patch for Vanilla civ that implements the connectivity fixes. Sounds like a good solution to me .
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Post by Tony on Jul 2, 2006 12:09:26 GMT -5
I plan on playing warlords the day it comes out. The expansion is more polished and there's more depth to the game. As for connectivity issues.... many of us have learned who and who not to play with. The problem is on the player end most of the time, IMHO. I try not to play with people who have Pentium 3, 512 mb RAM and a dial up connection. Simply put zhenon, that is just not true! I connect to almost everyone, but some days i dont and sometimes people cant connect to me! Hot joining almost always has somsone you cant connect to even though you connected to them just 5 minutes ago.
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