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Post by smatt834 on Apr 1, 2007 6:03:28 GMT -5
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Post by smatt834 on Apr 1, 2007 6:18:56 GMT -5
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Post by zzZhenon on Apr 1, 2007 16:35:03 GMT -5
lol i've heard these conspiracy theories before and not just from "liberals" like rosie. People were talking about these issues long before Rosie brought them to ABC day-time. Our media is so out of touch with the majority of american people. They cater to their viewers only, for ratings and money. FoxNews found out how to exploit the sucker conservatives with their "clouds-on-the-horizon" sensationalist newscasts. Now we have every media source copycatting their new style (i.e. Scarborough Country and however many dozens of programs out there). I agree about watching or reading news outside of the normal sources. Overseas news like the BBC is not only interesting, but occasionally it can be a refreshing change.
You just have to ask yourself some questions whenever you hear somebody else's OPINION on a subject.
1. What is their motivation? 2. What are they leaving out? 3. How many logic fallacies are they using? (i.e. red herring, bandwagon, etc.)
Soo... Can fire melt steal? answer: somehow they forged steel hundreds of years ago, does that mean a jetfuel explosion could get hot enough? I don't know the answer, but I'm not going to take Rosie's OPINION as fact at face value. She most certainly didn't present all the facts.
Scarborough wants her off the air and Bonaducci or whoever that nobody was wants to hang her for treason. Are these guys really serious? Give me a break. By silencing Rosie or hanging her would be the most tyranous censorship and unworthy of Americans.
People need to STFU and understand that as Americans we have the right to have a different opinion on a subject. Does that mean I have to like that kook Bill O'Reilly? f**k no, but it also doesn't mean I want someone to shoot him. Just don't watch his f**king show.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Apr 1, 2007 22:06:06 GMT -5
(liberals getting intel) Turture is evil, we need to just ask nicely. "Please Mr.Muhamad, tell me where ur nukes are. I know u think god is gunna give u 72 virgins when u die and thats a lot. But what if I told u I can get you 84 virgins right now huh??? And, I'll throw in some 9 year olds cause I know that what u Islams like. Deal!! thanks Mr Muhamad, I knew we could do bussiness."
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Post by Necrominousss on Apr 1, 2007 23:42:54 GMT -5
Interesting clips, but I'm not sure why you accompanied them with a question regarding torture. I would think the question would be if you think people in the U.S. government might have been behind 9/11.
The View seems to have become, Rosie and the others show, BTW.
And what's with the fire doesn't melt steel sh:t and building don't collapse like that. It got hot enough to weaken the supports and cause a chain reaction of the layers falling into the next layer taking the whole building down. What did she expect it to do, tip over, like me when I had a few to many glasses of wine?
And this President Bush and his cabal where behind 9/11 just to attack Iraq, just seems beyond bizarre to me. If true, that's one hell of a gamble to take. Let's see says Bush, "My poll numbers are a little down and congress is giving me trouble and my oil buddies are squawking. What to do? I got it! Carl, Rummy, Cheney get I'm my office, pronto, what an idea I have." Next month, down come the tower. Pretty good for a guy the Dem's say is the stupidest president they've seen.
Or maybe you believe there are secret organization pulling the strings of the western world and they allowed it to happen or planned it to motivate public opinion.
I wonder about the secret society as well from time to time. Maybe the aliens are directing our leaders, and this Democracy fallacy is just to keep us content, multiplying and going to work everyday to produce goods. The few leader that know don't dare announce it the masses for fear or alien retribution, or maybe they don't even know because the have the guise of being human.
Oh sh;t, there on to me, they just popped in through a dimensional tear in space-time. You big eyed gray midgets, get the f::ck away from me with that anal prob! OOoo, wow, my, hmm, thats not so bad, I guess.
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Post by DrShot on Apr 2, 2007 0:17:20 GMT -5
You know the only reason the "72 virgins" (and still virgins)are waiting for them... -> [glow=red,2,300]fugly [/glow]
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Post by whiplash on Apr 2, 2007 6:43:17 GMT -5
Somebody please explain to me how a fat, ugly, loudmouth, abrasive broad like Rosie is a success.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Apr 2, 2007 15:24:42 GMT -5
lol come on whip. Rosie is popular because she says things liberals wanna hear. Like America is evil, George Bush is a terrorist/nazi, and the christian right is just as bad as the radical muslims. All things Libs love to hear. Then the new conservitive media gets all offended and blast her, but by doing so only makes her louder. Liberals like Rosie have more incomin with Osma Binlodin then they do with any patriotic american. Liberalism and Islam have a lot in commen too. Islam's think its ok to merry a little girl, Liberals want to teach your kids about sex in public schools. And incase one of those libs knock a little girl up, they want it legal to get her an abortion without the partents ever knowing. You libs and you Islams are evil. You are just too blinded by your own hatered to see your actions for what they are. Its not to late to change (yet).
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Post by zzZhenon on Apr 2, 2007 15:44:22 GMT -5
lol come on whip. Rosie is popular because she says things liberals wanna hear. Like America is evil, George Bush is a terrorist/nazi, and the christian right is just as bad as the radical muslims. All things Libs love to hear. Then the new conservitive media gets all offended and blast her, but by doing so only makes her louder. Liberals like Rosie have more incomin with Osma Binlodin then they do with any patriotic american. Liberalism and Islam have a lot in commen too. Islam's think its ok to merry a little girl, Liberals want to teach your kids about sex in public schools. And incase one of those libs knock a little girl up, they want it legal to get her an abortion without the partents ever knowing. You libs and you Islams are evil. You are just too blinded by your own hatered to see your actions for what they are. Its not to late to change (yet). EEEEEEEEVVIIILLL! Yes someone who's opinion that differs from yours can only be one thing: EVIL!!! All the world is Right or Wrong, Black or White. There's no middle ground or grey area in ANYTHING, huh?
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Post by smatt834 on Apr 2, 2007 16:41:35 GMT -5
lol i never liked rosie much either but i'm with her on this one :0 i just love how everyone just ignores the FACT that the owner Larry Silverstein admitted that the building was 'pulled' yet everyone just ignores it. here is newest article i can find about rosie today www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=699"James Meigs, editor in chief of "Popular Mechanics," ... said as much as 25% of the building was scooped out by the falling debris. He added, "There were intense fires that burned inside the building that weakend the steel frame. Rosie O'Donnell said this was the first time in history fire melted steel, but fire doesn't have to melt steel to weaken it enough to fail." WTF does that mean? ^^ And I can count 3 lies in the above sentence. Don't forget what Larry said either. anyway..... "And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed - if all records told the same tale -- then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.' And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. 'Reality control', they called it: in Newspeak, 'doublethink.' Winston sank his arms to his sides and slowly refilled his lungs with air. His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate sublety: consciously to induce unconciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink." George Orwell 1984 and BTW one more "NUT" has joined the movement www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/020407pledgesallegiance.htm
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Post by thegreatsatan on Apr 2, 2007 20:39:49 GMT -5
I know there is plenty of grey area in politics. Do we cut taxes or raise taxes. Do we go to war and go all out or do we try to opease our enemys. But if you can show me the gray area when it comes to sex with minors or the killing americans/jews then I guess I'm uninformed. But if you are cool with sending your son/daughter to a public school to be taught sex ed by some tranny in the 4th grade, thats your choice. But don't get mad at me for thinking thats wrong. Its not the people that are evil, its there actions that are evil. There is an old country song " you got to stand for somethin or you will fall for everything."
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Post by DrShot on Apr 2, 2007 21:29:15 GMT -5
lol i never liked rosie much either but i'm with her on this one :0 i just love how everyone just ignores the FACT that the owner Larry Silverstein admitted that the building was 'pulled' yet everyone just ignores it. here is newest article i can find about rosie today www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=699"James Meigs, editor in chief of "Popular Mechanics," ... said as much as 25% of the building was scooped out by the falling debris. He added, "There were intense fires that burned inside the building that weakend the steel frame. Rosie O'Donnell said this was the first time in history fire melted steel, but fire doesn't have to melt steel to weaken it enough to fail." WTF does that mean? ^^ And I can count 3 lies in the above sentence. Don't forget what Larry said either. "i just love how everyone just ignores the FACT that the owner Larry Silverstein admitted that the building was 'pulled' yet everyone just ignores it." I am not sure what exactly you mean with that quote. I guess that gives for another issue of as the buildings fall... _____________ "WTF does that mean? ^^ And I can count 3 lies in the above sentence. Don't forget what Larry said either." Actually WTF does that(above) mean. I read it several times and not sure what your point is. and I can count 3 lines ... huh, please explain that too, very confused as to what you mean there, baffled actually. Don't forget what Larry said, well, what did he say? You quote him of one word... "pulled" he pull his willie too? Pulled like a bad sitcom? pulled like a pitcher after giving up 3 home runs? pulled like... you get the message, please explain. Better yet please explain in context. I' ll get back to ya after some clarifications. I would hate to post conjecture and promote fear and, wait thats covered already.
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Post by DrShot on Apr 2, 2007 21:31:31 GMT -5
Tricky poll question. Of course torture will get the truth. But how to know how true and how often (% of the truth)and what omissions... ____________ Zhenov is a Liberal, go easy on him, maybe use the larger fonts too.
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Post by DrShot on Apr 2, 2007 21:41:58 GMT -5
OK, you took to long to reply, I did wait 2 minutes after all. I googled Larry and came up with this link in to of them great websites reknown for reliability, but here it goes. www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html Better yet you read it... I type damned slow. He said that with the NYFD( thats the New York Fire Department so no one thinks it is an acrnym for the CIA or Bush cartel) they decided to demolish the building. This would explain many thingsCamers were still trained on the building, well ns, it was removed to eliminate a very unsafe situation. Fire and rescue personel were notified and removed, again, ns. Debris did fall on the building making it unsafe, thus the decision to "pull" or demolish said building. How many hours passed untill the building fell? yea it took time to set charges. By the way, if this was a conspiracy why would the building not have fallen the first time not several hours later. Answer, the demolition was never a secret. Further it did not START ( no charges ever set)untill planes blasted into the towers. Thanks for debunking your own theory...
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Post by Necrominousss on Apr 2, 2007 23:27:51 GMT -5
Wow! DrShot solves the biggest mystery of our time in less than 15 minutes.
You should go on the Scarborough show and debate Rosie.
If only the liberals could use that kinda logic that Drshot just displayed, once in awhile, we would have a much more secure world in the end. Logic and liberalism, like oil and water 70% of the time, and pretty much 100% of the time in matters concerning terrorism, Islamo-fascist and other thugs of the world.
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Post by Necrominousss on Apr 2, 2007 23:42:30 GMT -5
GreatSatan, have you ever heard this expression?
If there's grass on the field... Play Ball !!!
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Post by smatt834 on Apr 5, 2007 8:10:25 GMT -5
25% of WTC 7 was NOT gutted by fire. fires were small and only on 8 floors if memory serves me not intense. big steel building don't fall down in 10 seconds from fire. hardly any debris hit the building. wtc 3 or 4 is right next to WTC 1 and 2 and took way more damage than WTC 7 and yet didn't fall. im sorry i tried to tell you the owner of building says they pulled it, yet the official 9-11 story is that fire made it fall. back to sleep for you.
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Post by WarningU2 on Apr 15, 2007 16:47:58 GMT -5
Simple. A lot of American's identify with her.
Actually I expect she will be yanked shortly - her rant is getting tiresome.
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