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Post by yohan11 on Apr 1, 2007 17:11:47 GMT -5
we played SD2R in semi, bonsai and zoolander we had no technical problems, but after 3 rounds they decided to leave...... so the game will be played the next week... but why did they have to leave so fast? maybe their land was not like they would? and the prefer rester a new game.... to easy to leave when the land is not like we want. for me they leave the game so they have to report us thanks
Yohan
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Post by haamiah on Apr 1, 2007 17:14:14 GMT -5
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Post by icelion on Apr 1, 2007 17:48:26 GMT -5
bonsai and zoo got to leave at same time the reason is you cant resist a knight rusg without iron,eles and knigjt in your cross,so you knew you are already dead.i rely on yohan for that . there was obviously no tecnical problems so the game can play on.its an excuse. too bad for the image of r2d2 clan.
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Post by alice on Apr 1, 2007 19:33:11 GMT -5
clearly the problem is that no one had hamatchi
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Post by DrShot on Apr 1, 2007 22:16:06 GMT -5
bonsai and zoo got to leave at same time the reason is you cant resist a knight rusg without iron,eles and knigjt in your cross,so you knew you are already dead.i rely on yohan for that . there was obviously no tecnical problems so the game can play on.its an excuse. too bad for the image of r2d2 clan. I think I decoded this to mean that(as mentioned b4, after 3 rounds: would that be 3 turns?) that without any iron/ele/knights you cannot defend agains knights so they must have conceded? Well, if your entirely new to civ that may be the case, defending one city is not so hard vs knights (it is OCC, no?) Why post all this crap in the forum? you have an issue take it up with the admin, not post it in the forum like a worthless POS. It really makes you look more like the bad guy IMO. I only know what is written in this thread , thus far, but the public forum as the first action or recourse is childish and uncalled for.... So, after three turns how do you know whats going on anyway? The excellent screen shots merely show horses .... Now them horses are not even 'hooked' up, so I bet them horseless knights must be really lethal. Relax, take a few breaths and get your facts together before going and posting some hodge-podge thread like this,ESPECIALLY when you accuse cheating. I recomend thinking before you act in the future; if thats possible.
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Post by mansurji on Apr 2, 2007 0:22:34 GMT -5
yes, cheating is not a word that should be use on this board without a good reason, as it only serve to discredite another clan with nothing concrete behind, it's kind of lame.
And in any case next week you will reload the game i guess, not rehost, so what's the matter ? They just delayed it.
For DrShot, you are speaking of this horses in teh middle of nowhere ? ;D
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Post by SirHill on Apr 2, 2007 4:51:22 GMT -5
I do agree with Mansurji. I think you overreacted by posting here. The fact that S2DR insisted to play on Sunday evening no matter what, then asked to leave after 3 turns while having very bad starting spots is indeed conspicuous. But it is not proof of cheating : maybe they acted in good faith, nobody will ever know for sure. So I think it is unfair to publicly accuse them of cheating. I am sure the SD2R will agree to reload the game next week, not rehost it, and this will end that issue once for all.
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Post by venceslas on Apr 2, 2007 6:21:34 GMT -5
Agree also. FUN you have often been very dissapointed with the admin's judgement due to language problem, or miscomprehension.
But here I don't like the title of this topic. In the worst case, they are not fairplay, cheating is another matter.
Let's trust Eiffel.
chris.
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Post by mansurji on Apr 2, 2007 7:06:28 GMT -5
hmm i just learn that the game will probably be rehosted due to the general amnesty
I'm not the lawyer of FUN and i guess they can easily defend themselves, but there is an interesting question : why people that was ready to play a game 3 turns before ( when they launched ) suddenly felt the need to left, knowing they wouldnt probably be able to come back.
But as Ven i trust in Eiffel, and i do think he will be able to fix the situation an internal way, SD2R is known as a regular clan so far.
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Post by icelion on Apr 2, 2007 7:18:36 GMT -5
;Dthe title might be strong BUT there is something obscure. ps:dr shot dont reply please im sure u have better to do.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 2, 2007 16:18:56 GMT -5
Ok this doesn't belong in the forums either...but....I'll let the language issue explain this, but in the future I will not tolerate any clan coming to the forums to complain about another clan or player. If you want to email me in french go ahead, I can read enough french to understand what you say and have mastered the fine art of online translators for the fine details.
I was the admin in the lobby when this happened. The two clans involved spend alot of time even getting the game going. And then Bonsai told me that Zoolander had to go, for personal reasons and couldn't play. Since the whole CCC was delayed and the game was only 3 turns in I ruled that the match would continue the following weekend. I explained this to one of the french players(who's name escapes me atm) after I made the decision. So I'm not sure were the "misunderstanding" came from.
If GS had not crashed and this was a normal CCC Sunday SD2R would hav been disqualified but since many other games got delayed I didn't that would be fair in this case.
Case Closed.
CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 2, 2007 20:44:41 GMT -5
From Bonsai:
Let me just lay out the facts for this “game”: • Game Spy was down which delayed the CCC games for a couple of hours on Sunday. • After GS got back up, SD2R played MUD and we won that game. • After the MUD game was over, I hosted the FUN vs SD2R OCC 2v2 semifinal in the GS lobby. Besides myself, Zoolander and Locouf were in that game and we were waiting for yohan to join us. • We waited for about 30 minutes and were told that yohan was unable to connect to the GameSpy lobby while other games in the lobby continued normally. Another player for FUN was apparently not available at the time. Yohan was not on c4f either during any time we tried to get this game going. • We continued to wait and at some point were told to directly connect to an IP address. We tried to connect to the IP address without success. The IP address was unreachable. • We went back into the GS lobby and waited again and told Locouf that we have limited time due to the GS outage and the delay because of Yohan’s unavailability. After playing for almost three days straight, both Zoolander and I had other commitments in real life we needed to take care of. • At some point, Locouf talked us into downloading and installing Hamachi. After we installed it, we were not able to connect to the IP address given to us. A while later it worked for whatever reason and we were able to connect to the IP address. • After about 1.5 hours from when I originally hosted the SD2R vs FUN game, we were able to get started. Unfortunately, we were out of time because of the delays as Zoolander was receiving guests from out of town that moment. As earlier with FUN, we had no sub available at the time. • At the time, we paused the game, see screenshots above, talked to CanuckSoldier who then decided that - given the circumstances - this game should be rehosted as several other games.
Everyone can come to their own conclusion. But calling people cheaters in public after letting them wait for almost two hours is quite out of line. The ironic thing is that none of FUN’s problems were actually mentioned above. So, I am not sure what the point of this is, in particular, considering that the ladder admins had ruled about this already before we left the game.
The statement above that we quit the game because we did not have the right resources is also made up. (How do you know anyway after three turns?) In any case, I would be happy to re-start the game with the last save.
The only mistake SD2R made in my opinion was giving in to not hosting the game properly. I certainly have learnt from that experience and will simply say “no” in the future in situations like this one.
Canuck, let me just add to your comment that FUN would have been disqualified under normal circumstances, since they did not have two players available in the GS lobby. If you want to give this game to FUN for whatever reason, I am fine with that. I just don’t understand how some people make such a mess from this, in particular, when they are a large part of the problem.
This will be the last statement on this issue.
CS
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