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Post by venceslas on Aug 28, 2006 11:47:17 GMT -5
Sure CS, but I'm speaking from Yeeeps(teter is OS), he has been required that he is the same name on the roster(Yeeps different from FUN-Yeeps or something like that).
That's quite a minor point, and I'm persuaded that you make your best to be fair. In the firsts CCC from LKT, I remember that you(and other admins) make great effort to help us.
chris.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 28, 2006 11:54:49 GMT -5
Well yes the player does have to be on the roster before the deadline in a recognizable form, a totally different name(not sure if that was the issue?) would cause problems.
CS
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Post by mansurji on Aug 28, 2006 14:18:28 GMT -5
Here is the translation of Popov message, given by Venceslas a few posts ago.
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For 40 minutes, i had no pop-up saying i was blocking anyone, then i saw two of them. The OS guy ( Note of the translator : Me ) said it wasnt requiered for me to leave ( he was translating all discussion to me, seems i dont speak english ) because the rule said that after 10 minutes the player out have to be eliminated, what the other people was apparently saying too. All players concerned knew about this... So with the others ironman players and the admin, we decided to stop the game after eliminating the KC, but in fact i wanted to continue because i was sure to take the 2nd place, but i had to agree with all the voting players... I was already angry for being only 3rd when the next morning i've learned that i was now 4th, then now the last, and that no reclamation has been posted, when it's false seems FUN did ( we posted on forum then by mp ). So for 50 minutes we waited on KC to come back, and all the present players and the concerned admin took the decision of eliminating the KC and stopping the game. I'm sorry, but when we take an official decision, we dont come back on it later.
Another exemple of US mind : i've subbed yeeeps because he was threaten to be eliminated due to his lag, and when i come into the game i see the famous KC guy lagging the whole game an horrific way. So why did the US had the right to lag and not yeeeps ?
I'm sorry, but if admins and TD of CCC do such robbering, scandalous and cheating acts ( it is, for me, because i'm sure that if it was a french clan in this situation nothing would have be done ) this dont give me faith to play CCC again.
I got different feelings about this CCC, some good one with the FUN-clan results, of which all players played well and get lot of points in many events. I assume i'm very PROUD of being a FUN at this CCC. But on a personal side, i feel like i've been stolen and betrayed by the TD, such a way that it dont give me the feeling of playing another CCC.
Popov, from FUN, translated by Mansurji, from OS.
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Post by MMV on Aug 28, 2006 14:37:42 GMT -5
waiting 10 minutes for a dropped player to rejoin isn't even half the rules.
I understand what he's saying (and what else is being said) but please at least acknowledge the error made there.
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Post by mansurji on Aug 28, 2006 14:40:38 GMT -5
I know this error, but i didnt corrected it as it was as it in the original text. In fact, 10 min is 2/3 of the legal time, more than half so.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 28, 2006 15:33:27 GMT -5
Well I'm not, again, rehashing the sequence of events, or my reasoning, and the ruling by Levi. As to Swissy causing lag, I was the TD and at no time did anyone in the game ask me to rule on Swissy being a lag issue as was the case with yeeeps. I would have subbed Swissy out if I was asked to make a ruling.
CS
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Post by MMV on Aug 28, 2006 17:33:38 GMT -5
I know this error, but i didnt corrected it as it was as it in the original text. In fact, 10 min is 2/3 of the legal time, more than half so. if a player (or sub) cannot rejoin a ladder game due to technical problems, a reload from the lobby must be done. (and in this case, that would be the vanilla CIV lobby, not the WL lobby) This may be different than the rules for the French Ladder - I don't know, but the CCC is played by the rules of this ladder.
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Post by mansurji on Aug 28, 2006 23:52:33 GMT -5
Quote : << if a player (or sub) cannot rejoin a ladder game due to technical problems, a reload from the lobby must be done. >>
Thanks for bringing this light to the situation. Now read all the threads please.
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Post by MookieNJ on Aug 29, 2006 0:09:48 GMT -5
Lol why is this discussion going on in like 8 different threads, can't there be just one?
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Post by MMV on Aug 29, 2006 7:48:29 GMT -5
Quote : << if a player (or sub) cannot rejoin a ladder game due to technical problems, a reload from the lobby must be done. >> Thanks for bringing this light to the situation. Now read all the threads please. If I had seen ANYWHERE where a reload from the lobby was attempted, I wouldn't have asked - feel free to post the url here so I can see it and then I'll apologize. you stated in the other (now closed) thread that you'd like to play me in ironman - my email is available on this profile; just let me know.
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Post by whitebull on Aug 29, 2006 9:02:16 GMT -5
Quote : << if a player (or sub) cannot rejoin a ladder game due to technical problems, a reload from the lobby must be done. >> Thanks for bringing this light to the situation. Now read all the threads please. If I had seen ANYWHERE where a reload from the lobby was attempted, I wouldn't have asked - feel free to post the url here so I can see it and then I'll apologize. you stated in the other (now closed) thread that you'd like to play me in ironman - my email is available on this profile; just let me know. There's nowhere a talk about reload... but all players involved who where on vanilla lobby (with c4f) at that time said that they NEVER saw swissy... so why reload ?? I guess that's why he told u to read, but i think he is a bit tired of all this to be more explicit
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Post by mansurji on Aug 29, 2006 9:09:05 GMT -5
By reading and understanding what happen said by the different involved persons, you should see by yourself there was no need for a reload in this situation, seems we didnt knew there was a matter and when we knew it, it was too late... And the question of the reload have already been discussed somewhere. Bull is right, i'm a bit tired of all this now, we have to let the admin take their decision.
And well, i guess you're old enough to know by yourself when is the next CCC, that you dont requier me to mail it to you... *sigh*
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Post by MMV on Aug 29, 2006 10:17:15 GMT -5
you should see by yourself there was no need for a reload in this situation yada yada yada....And well, i guess you're old enough to know by yourself when is the next CCC, that you dont requier me to mail it to you the reload: well, accept for the sub trying to get in AND IT'S THE RULES, lolnext CCC - I guess you turn down your own challenge to me and my acceptance. too badyour intention is now clear - I'm done.
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Post by mansurji on Aug 29, 2006 10:23:48 GMT -5
Here is the challenge i gave you, remember ? => Though i'm ready to play the next ironman with you and defend my title, if you're up to.Check it back, if you dont trust me.... I'm glad you accepted it, and i'm glad to know we will play next ironman together... if your team think you're able to, of course. edit : about the rule ( ffs... ) check this, all is said. civ4players.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=ccc&action=display&thread=1156675852&page=3#1156776564( feel free to recognize yourself in the last sentence of this post ) Im done too.
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Post by rupman on Aug 31, 2006 14:07:10 GMT -5
I should play the ironman. Barring a completely nutsty start, I'd own you all. Noobs
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