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Post by Magzi on Oct 24, 2007 6:17:50 GMT -5
I also see no problem with Classical hero playing. I have have played PBEM games with him before. I see absolutely no problem with his being a member of this ladder or not. Most my games are non ladder! As he is merely filling in I see no reason for him to have to join unless he is permanent. Then I suppose it's needed for the next reporting benchmark.
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Post by classicalhero on Oct 24, 2007 10:02:12 GMT -5
I really see no point in me joining the ladder since it is only a few turns. I would join if I was replacing him.
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Post by WarningU2 on Oct 25, 2007 20:33:33 GMT -5
Thank you Classical.
The game will continue as is then for the time being.
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Post by MMV on Oct 25, 2007 23:15:37 GMT -5
Then welcome to a non-ladder/open game
That's what you call it when there is a non-ladder member playing
Nothing wrong with it, that's just what it is
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Post by Magzi on Oct 26, 2007 2:19:15 GMT -5
MMV what exactly IS your problem?
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Post by Bantams on Oct 26, 2007 2:35:28 GMT -5
MMV what exactly IS your problem? Male Menopause Most Likely or too many FFA games anyways we have no problems with him in the other "ladder pitboss game" hell we have one none ladder player in there anyway
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Post by WarningU2 on Oct 26, 2007 5:15:08 GMT -5
No the game is a ladder game with one player who will be leaving this weekend after subbing. The rightful ladder member returning. I will ask all players playing in this game that in future though only ladder members substitute going forward. Thanks
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Post by IanDC on Oct 26, 2007 5:52:59 GMT -5
I don't see a problem either, the responsibility still rests with the ladder player for reporting etc, the fact that the sub isn't ladder might be a problem in an online game but surely not in a pitboss for a few turns. I'd echo Magzi's point that Classical Hero is well known in the pitboss & pbem community, I'm in games with him as are Magzi, Warning & Whip.
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Post by tamijo on Oct 26, 2007 6:02:01 GMT -5
Then welcome to a non-ladder/open game That's what you call it when there is a non-ladder member playing Nothing wrong with it, that's just what it is When people make rules, they are ment to make life easy for everyone, but somehow there is allways somebody trying to change the idear of rules into something ment to harras other people with. It is just unbeliveble that you can make an issue out of a sub, playing in a pitbox for a week.
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Post by tamijo on Oct 26, 2007 6:03:33 GMT -5
Talking about other games, did the (non ladder) OCC 2v2 ever continue, havent heard anything about the game for a long time ?
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Post by whiplash on Oct 26, 2007 6:45:12 GMT -5
I would like to see that game continue, and would host it if I could get the save file.
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Post by MMV on Oct 26, 2007 8:19:16 GMT -5
Hmmmmmmmmmm -
If I broke the rules, I'd be blamed
When I point out that several ladder and game specific rules are broken - I'm blamed again
That's the nice thing about the ladder and it's rules - they're simple
As ladder players (as pointed out in the same rules), it's all of our responsibility to ensure that ladder rules are followed.
Since it doesn't seem to bother anyone else, that still doesn't make it right.
When I went out of town for 4 days, I did not get a substitute (ladder or non ladder) - I just set my queue up accordingly
When WU2 went on vacation, he just shut the game down without getting a substitute
Several other people have missed a few days to to travel plans, etc - they did not get a substitute.
And the fact that this guy won't even make the 3 mouse clicks to join the ladder temporarily should tell you something.
But, he refuses.
I dropped the issue, yet you all bring it back up
ALL I said was, it's against the rules - which it is
Consequently, if it does NOT bother you that the rules are broken, then you all really have nothing to complain about.
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Post by MMV on Oct 26, 2007 8:23:24 GMT -5
And tamijo - you're quote is EXACTLY right!
Except, you are complaining about me and I haven't tried to change the idea of the rules
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Post by whiplash on Oct 26, 2007 9:06:41 GMT -5
Rather than focus on the nit picky details of the rules why not focus on the intended results?
The "rules" are there to establish a framework of fair competition and the integrity of the reporting system so that players' statistics reflect what actually happened in the games.
Having a non-ladder sub for a couple of turns does not impact the results. When the ladder player returns and continues his turns the reports will be made just as though he never had left.
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Post by tamijo on Oct 26, 2007 10:36:32 GMT -5
Sorry if i offended you MMV, was not intended, i understand your point of view also. Just that in this case, i find that (as Wip said) it is better to just go on with the game. And as WU said, next sub will have to be ladder.
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Post by MMV on Oct 26, 2007 10:58:07 GMT -5
Rather than focus on the nit picky details of the rules why not focus on the intended results? Thanks whip - EXACTLY! (the intended results are a ladder game as posted by WU2 in his settings/game rules in this thread) You all called it "nit-picky details" when MightyDwaarf changed his name three times to a non-ladder name. Perhaps some can't see a pattern, but it's pretty clear. But then again, as I continue playing this game, as well as all of you - it seems to be you complaining more than me. Once again, I complain about ONE thing, ONE time (the rules) Everything else I posted was to your responses Perhaps if you all don't want to play by WU2's game rules, game settings, ladder rules, etc - it's YOU that should find a new game, eh? Enough of this - you are all incredible in your views -THUS the state of the ladder as you ALL complain about! If it were ANY of you complaining about a rule/setting (that we all agreed to by joining the game), I think you'd all whine a LOT louder than me, LOL!
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Post by Magzi on Oct 26, 2007 11:40:03 GMT -5
Oooh my!..........................With that attitude MMV I'm surprised anyone is allowed to be on the ladder!
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Post by WarningU2 on Oct 27, 2007 5:36:31 GMT -5
I've said that in future any sub will need to be a ladder player. Why is this still being discussed? Please no more pot shots at anyone. Oh and please note... I will be on vacation the first two weeks of February. If this game is still going then the game will take a hiatus unless someone wants to host. IANDC can take my turns. I honestly didn't think a couple of weeks break was a big deal several months ago but it appears I did something wrong and I am so grateful that MMV pointed it out to avoid any issus with my next vacation. Which is a trip to new zealand that my visa card just got dinged for ... ouch !
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Post by whiplash on Oct 27, 2007 7:03:48 GMT -5
I don't buy green bananas.
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Post by tamijo on Oct 28, 2007 4:05:41 GMT -5
I got a surplus of bananas, wanna trade ?!
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