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Post by mrgametheory on Oct 19, 2007 14:11:34 GMT -5
There are several major flaws with Civ 4 MP and a result of those flaws is 99% of the games being played on only few settings.
I am very confident that if I was able to get a moder to help me I could make a few changes to the game that would greatly balance the game and make it a more enjoyable experience for us all.
I am looking for a moder who is either willing to donate their time for the greater good or a moder who will be willing to help me for a set fee.
I really want to make some well thought out changes to this game that I feel would make this into a truly great experience.
Several things like Spys, Flanking, Air, sea, traits, UU, Tecs, wonders etc could be adjusted to fit the exact needs of an MP community and I am confident that when it is finished the entire MP community would conclude that it is far superior to the standard version of BTS.
This is a serious attempt to find some help here and I am willing to donate time and money towards accomplishing this. If any of you are moders and this sounds interesting to you please let me know and if any of you know moders than please let them know because I would like to get started on this asap.
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Post by MMV on Oct 19, 2007 17:54:41 GMT -5
Ahhhhh good idea!
PAY someone to find a way to make the game easier for you.
(but NOT by the hour, a flat fee only)
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Post by Bantams on Oct 19, 2007 18:25:33 GMT -5
Ahhhhh good idea! PAY someone to find a way to make the game easier for you. (but NOT by the hour, a flat fee only) you should play more ladder game and stop posting nutse but each to there own:p
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Post by MMV on Oct 19, 2007 22:17:08 GMT -5
Or in your case - "to reach your own"
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Post by marr on Oct 19, 2007 23:53:47 GMT -5
First dibs on Bantams for the reach around!
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Post by Earl Harewood on Oct 20, 2007 8:02:25 GMT -5
I volunteer for being a tester!!! im no good at modding at all ;D
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 20, 2007 12:10:03 GMT -5
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Post by mrgametheory on Oct 20, 2007 18:16:10 GMT -5
This mod will obliterate most of the strategic loopholes I take advantage of, so in no way this this mod be tailored towards some specific loophole pattern.
The changes I have already come up with will greatly increase the amount of skill involved to play the game and will reward the veterns who understand the game. The game will take away an ideal amount of luck leaving the game exsactly what the MP community wants. All i need is someone who can mod and I will provide the MP community exsactly what it has been yearning for.
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Post by Tony on Oct 20, 2007 19:46:37 GMT -5
Why dont you post a list of chages? I'm sure primax can do it, given a list.
I wish you the best of luck with this mod, and i hope this will bring some new-life to MP, but sadly i dont think it will be popular, for the following reasons:
1) New thinking is often rejected by alot of the ladder, it has taken a majorty of players 2 years to get to a half decent level, after much observing and repeating. Without upsetting anyone ... why do you think so many only play occ? (same thing game in game out, just how they like it).
2) Loading a mod is annoying as hell, i hosted a really fun UUMadess game last week (I think both teams would agree it was rather fun) but i doubt any of them have played it since, or will agian for quite some time. What makes mods 100 times more annoying then people realise is, not everyone can see the game, even if they have loaded the same mod - so they have to be direct IP-ed in, and if by mistake you direct IP a guy who doesnt have the correct file (previous version or whatever) the game will OOS. Put simply its annoying as hell, and all to often take AGES!
3) Most ladder players wont know about this mod and those that do will not bother advertising. Personally speaking i just join the first decent game on the game list, these are the games that fill up the fastest and thus the most popular - Trust me, these days no one is willing to wait 40 mins for a game, hence elite teamers are very rare now.
There are others reasons too!
As i said i really hope this takes off, but I would be shocked if it does!
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Post by TheBadSeed on Oct 21, 2007 1:16:37 GMT -5
Just to add some support, as there seems to be more excuses not to do it than support for doing it, I think it's a great idea. I think that the majority of ladder players would support it if you can get it done. That being said, I'm not a coder, so I can't help, but I like the idea. This game was designed for single player, and some mods are without question needed to make it more viable for the multiplayer community.
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Post by Bantams on Oct 21, 2007 3:11:59 GMT -5
Just Play Warlords and throw BTS in the Dumpster Hell Lets all go Play C3C
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Post by Earl Harewood on Oct 21, 2007 10:30:10 GMT -5
This game was designed for multiplayer. When the devs first sat down to talk about civ4 way back they said, let's design the game with MP in mind and then SP will be a natural extension of that. Just didn't quite work out the way they planned lol
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Post by MMV on Oct 21, 2007 19:28:16 GMT -5
Earl? If I pay you money, will you change the world for me?
Will you be my friend and do exactly what I say and change the world to exactly what I want no matter what?
I really can't afford an hourly rate, but I can pay you a flat fee out of my milk-money.
(well, less the cost of a money order anyway, that's a dollar I can't afford)
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Post by Tony on Oct 21, 2007 21:28:41 GMT -5
MMV you are crazy! Just random nonsense about nothing, you seem to have a nasty habit of commenting on things you have very little understanding of - and im not only talking about this thread. I would be really interested to know what image you have of yourself in your head? Ladder comedian maybe? I think this thread sums you up pretty well: civ4players.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=gstad&action=display&thread=1159298633&page=1Just random nonsense, and when you are corrected you just go on a tangent with yet more nonsense - Just say something for the sake of saying something, like a kid trying to get the last word. Here is some advice, if you dont fully understand something, either: 1) Try to learn it (obviously subject to 'ability to learn') 2) Shut up and stop embrassing yourself
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Post by xiaojuzi on Oct 21, 2007 22:03:22 GMT -5
Why dont you post a list of chages? I'm sure primax can do it, given a list. I wish you the best of luck with this mod, and i hope this will bring some new-life to MP, but sadly i dont think it will be popular, for the following reasons: 1) New thinking is often rejected by alot of the ladder, it has taken a majorty of players 2 years to get to a half decent level, after much observing and repeating. Without upsetting anyone ... why do you think so many only play occ? (same thing game in game out, just how they like it). 2) Loading a mod is annoying as hell, i hosted a really fun UUMadess game last week (I think both teams would agree it was rather fun) but i doubt any of them have played it since, or will agian for quite some time. What makes mods 100 times more annoying then people realise is, not everyone can see the game, even if they have loaded the same mod - so they have to be direct IP-ed in, and if by mistake you direct IP a guy who doesnt have the correct file (previous version or whatever) the game will OOS. Put simply its annoying as hell, and all to often take AGES! 3) Most ladder players wont know about this mod and those that do will not bother advertising. Personally speaking i just join the first decent game on the game list, these are the games that fill up the fastest and thus the most popular - Trust me, these days no one is willing to wait 40 mins for a game, hence elite teamers are very rare now. There are others reasons too! As i said i really hope this takes off, but I would be shocked if it does! good idea for mgt and good percipience for tony.here is my suggestion 1)make threads on CFC for help where it seems more modder gathered. 2)integrate your mod and the original game into one single .exe pack,have it well compressed and release it on emule and every major torrent site,guarantee a faster connection with a powerful server working by day and night cuz ppl will choose the fastest and smallest source.it could be better if u can make a "greenversion" without any installation process,yeah.then everyone will download the modified version instead of the original one so that they will accecpt the "new thinking"naturally. ;Dlast,ask a lawyer for some tips if there is any legal problem here but i believe it can be well manipulated.
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Post by cryptococcus on Oct 22, 2007 4:05:08 GMT -5
Rofl at Tony's reference to MMV's previous post. Please remvoe mmv's abilities to post as that thread only proves he is of no value to the ladder and beyond help. Also, he and spamtams have just made mgt's legitamite thread cluttered with spam.
PS. Sorry I just added to that spam.
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Post by MMV on Oct 22, 2007 6:57:37 GMT -5
Rofl at crypto's reference to Tony's previous post. Please remove crypto's abilities to post as that thread only proves he is of no value to the ladder and beyond help. Also, he and spamtams have just made mgt's legitamite thread cluttered with spam.
PS. Sorry I just added to that spam.
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Post by Bantams on Oct 22, 2007 7:25:54 GMT -5
ROFLMFAO ;D
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Post by Lestat on Oct 22, 2007 7:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by nicoya1 on Oct 22, 2007 18:48:02 GMT -5
you should have posted thoses boobs again then this thread would have sky rocketed
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