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Post by eyesofnight3 on Jun 6, 2007 10:11:02 GMT -5
From what I've heard, slavery is going to be nerfed in BTS...and it really needs to be. The game is practically based on slavery at this point and makes the game so 1 dimensional it gets boring very quickly. On the other hand, slavery is about the only thing that allows you to gain any sort of lead over lesser players. Anyone who played original Civ4 before people realized how powerful slavery was will remember what a horrible grind the game was. If they don't do something to increase the gap between lesser players and the better players, we will go back to the grind in BTS, the same grind that made many players quit. On the one hand, slavery has to be nerfed, it's clearly overpowered, but nerfing it will magnify the equalizing effects of Civ4. What do you guys think?
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Post by MMV on Jun 6, 2007 10:33:17 GMT -5
I think your constant whining is underwhelming If you're not going to like it - don't buy it and don't play it If you don't like what C4 is now - don't play it But, I bet you KEEP playing C4 as it is with your continual whine and I bet you BUY BtS and then whine about that too Life is full of choices - don't whine to us about the choices you make Civ is full of choices too - go to main ladder page - www.myleague.com/civ4players/ - and hit and click on the "withdraw" button Then go to the C4P forum page (here - civ4players.proboards44.com/index.cgi? - ) and click on "Profile" at top of page. Then hit "Edit Profile" and in the lower right-hand corner, click on "delete account" Thanks in advance
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Post by eyesofnight3 on Jun 6, 2007 10:40:32 GMT -5
So in other words you don't really know what you're talking about and can't comment on what I wrote. Typical KC.
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Post by MMV on Jun 6, 2007 10:50:33 GMT -5
No, just offering positive suggestions and choices for the dilemna you find yourself in
(you asked what I thought and I answered - perhaps be more specific with your whining?)
maybe being more specific will allow you to "magnify the equalizing effects" of your diatribe
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Post by eyesofnight3 on Jun 6, 2007 11:32:57 GMT -5
EoN, disagreeing with MMV is fine but you now crossed the line to slander, enjoy a vacation from posting for 2 weeks.
CS
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jun 6, 2007 11:48:43 GMT -5
I've always been a slaver. Slavery should be a powerful civic. Slavery built all kinds of big stuff all threw history. Slavery is still used in the modern world today. A modern country practicing mass slavery could really whoop some ass.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jun 6, 2007 12:06:47 GMT -5
I wrote my other reply without reading the rest of this thread. Who the f%c# do u think u are eyes. KC is a clan for beginers. It does far more for the ladder then any other clan by far. Infact, most vet ladder players at one time or another where members of KC. I'm a member of KC and I bet i could mop the floor with u intellectually or at civ.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jun 6, 2007 12:17:38 GMT -5
I wrote my other reply without reading the rest of this thread. Who the f%c# do u think u are eyes. KC is a clan for beginers. It does far more for the ladder then any other clan by far. Infact, most vet ladder players at one time or another where members of KC. I'm a member of KC and I bet i could mop the floor with u intellectually or at civ. Best to just take the high road on this issue TGS, EON has recieved his "reward" for his slander best to just move on now and ignore his ignorance. CS
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Post by MMV on Jun 6, 2007 15:34:01 GMT -5
I wrote my other reply without reading the rest of this thread. Who the f%c# do u think u are eyes. KC is a clan for beginers. It does far more for the ladder then any other clan by far. Infact, most vet ladder players at one time or another where members of KC. I'm a member of KC and I bet i could mop the floor with u intellectually or at civ. Best to just take the high road on this issue TGS, EON has recieved his "reward" for his slander best to just move on now and ignore his ignorance. CS NOT FAIR - you made the decision I suggested to him FOR him, LOL! Yes, that's correct TGS Both Head Admin and Vice-Admin of the main ladder are KC members 1 of the two Head TD's 5 out of 10 -HALF- are TD's That's 8 - over 1/3 of our clan, supporting the ladder
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Post by DustyDragoon on Jun 6, 2007 19:06:01 GMT -5
So in other words you don't really know what you're talking about and can't comment on what I wrote. Typical KC. Let me comment on your insults as possitively as I can Eyesofnight. First off, KC is one of the oldest clans in not only civ3 but also CIV. Its members and former members are some of the best players on the ladders. MMV and CanuckSoldier have been members of both ladders and CanuckSoldier has held adm positions on both. Both have contributed alot to both ladders and continue to do so. Now we must ask, what have you done for us? Why should we pay you any attention whatsoever? All I have ever seen come out of your IP address are insults and threats. Your demeaner makes me think of a ten year old punk who was perhaps wheaned off his mothers nipple a little too early and still craves it. You need help, and I mean this positively and not in a mean way. I would highly recommend you get some psychological help before it is too late. Your constant need for attention by any means is evidence of that. If you are under the age of 16 (which I highly suspect you are) then talk to your Mom and or Dad and show them what you have been up to on these pages. If they are any kind of parent at all I'm sure they will listen and get you the help you need. If you are older, then start acting like it. If you have mental issues, then get help or start taking the meds that have been prescribed. Wish you all the best. Dusty
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Post by zzZhenon on Jun 6, 2007 21:09:46 GMT -5
anyway as far as a slave nerf with bts... hmm where's the article about it?
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Post by Matlowe on Jun 6, 2007 23:58:53 GMT -5
CS WTF u only just realized that EON's posts are stupid and meaningless? i would of sent him on vacation the first post he wrote! But he did have a good subject to post about this time, how is slavery changed and is it changed in BTS? Mat
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jun 7, 2007 0:24:55 GMT -5
Sorry guys but there is no public info on any nerf to slavery, you will just have to wait until release to find out if EoN's rumour is true.
CS
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Post by xiaojuzi on Jun 7, 2007 1:02:42 GMT -5
i believe he is right
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Post by ironclad on Jun 7, 2007 10:57:59 GMT -5
Wouldn't mind civ going back to 2 pop for settler, 1 pop for worker. However it grows at same time. Had a bit more balance. Settler/gnp will be harder to do then. Of course though cheaper costs on settler and worker.
*Wonders why settlers and workers are cheaper in future..
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Post by knupp on Jun 7, 2007 14:33:03 GMT -5
I like your avatar DD.
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Post by tommynt on Jun 8, 2007 2:24:44 GMT -5
Lower settler costs when u get a size 5 city out of your settler is just one the totaly senseless stuff in civ4 future as it is now. Thats same senseless in terms of reality as in terms of game design.
U guys really think that ladder ll switch to BTS when there s nothing done for mp - easpacially in terms of connectivity?
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Post by Death to ALL on Jun 8, 2007 13:30:00 GMT -5
The ladder will cover all 3 version of Civ4 the same as we currently cover Warlords and Vanilla Civ4.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Jun 8, 2007 15:09:06 GMT -5
The nature of MP is that we all basically have to be playing one version of Civ, and if the transistion from Civ4 to Warlords is any indication the majority of the ladder will move to BTS within 2-3 weeks, perhaps slightly longer in europe and asia.
CS
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Post by Necrominousss on Jun 8, 2007 22:30:46 GMT -5
I won't be making that transition, unless I hear amazing things about XP, which I kinda doubt will happen. Someone give me a call when Civ5 hits the shelves and I'll try again.
I'm a hard core Civilization fan since I played it on Playstaion many years ago and have hardly played any other games since then, so I would imagine I speak for many.
BTW, I'm not knocking Civ4. It's a decent game, but I just don't play enough to justify buying expansion. 2 fun years of ancient ctons is enough and later eras lacking and team play and players annoying.
I may check out the Warlords lobby from time to time and see if anyones still around.
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