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Post by Bantams on Sept 30, 2006 9:04:20 GMT -5
I think if in a teamer, u have to quit and need a sub...you should have to report to all players on the other team, regardless of whether your losing or 1 turn away from a win.... and if u dont, a non report should be filed as per usual if someone leaves a game. would solve most of the problems with subbing. having said that...another 'established' player thinks he is superior to all else and wants out of a teamer, so just suicides instead. i think this is breaking the ladder rules somehow? ~sausage Rule is if you quit a teamer or anygame for that matter you REPORT a loss to EVERYONE regardless of whether you get a sub or not Avogadro already stated this and it as been stated before guess a few people need to read the rules again
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Post by MookieNJ on Sept 30, 2006 9:45:43 GMT -5
If I'm in a game and need to leave because of an emergency, and we can find a fair sub before I have to leave, and you make me report a loss to everyone in the game anyways ... well, rules or no rules, that's a quick add to my DNP list as I've never played that way before.
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Post by eiffel on Sept 30, 2006 9:55:38 GMT -5
I disagree mookie. If you had to leave whatever the reason, even if earthquake, you still have to report to all... so that you can say you're sorry to leave this way and give a reason if you had no time to... in the report comment ;D Finding a sub doesn't prevent you from reporting to all.
It was like this in C3P. Most player who lost connection and couldn't get back were reporting to all and explaining their problem. If stats are meaningless as most say, it shouldn't be a problem to follow the ladder rules ;D
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Post by Necrominousss on Sept 30, 2006 11:39:53 GMT -5
One shouldn't start a game that there is not enough time to finish. It pretty cut and dry to me. Reporting to all is small price to pay for inconveniencing all other players.
As far as CTON's go, quitting at any time is poor sportsmanship and I have never done it, even with untenable positions but personally it doesn't bother me very much, unless they just leave without saying a word. Please, if your going to quit, simply state, I'm a whining little baby and can't take getting my butt kicked without throwing a tantrum, and am quitting now, so there is no need to wait the customary 10 minutes for me to rejoin. That way we can go about our lives without being unduly affected by your pouting behavior.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Sept 30, 2006 13:27:15 GMT -5
As already stated, the rules are clear, if you quit a teamer you report to all. If people are not doing this file a non-report, and I'll be glad to persue the case completely.
For MMV and Levi: Lets try and keep the forums civil, I've read the posts and I don't agree that MMV was attacking/harassing anyone, he was simply stating his opinion on what should be discussed in the lobby. On the other hand I fully support your(Levi's) right to discuss religion and politics in a civil manner. So lets agree to disagree if that is all you two can do.
CS
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Post by sausageface on Oct 1, 2006 4:42:43 GMT -5
Geez bantams, was just throwing out a suggestion...the current rules dont seem to be working seeing as no one follows them, which makes it hard to remember what the actual rules even are . There is no strong incentive for people not to break rules so people keep doing it...oh no, they will get a non report....the game is still ruined and there goes 3 hours of your life. They will still be playing next week. and will do it again no doubt. i duno, i just sense the ladder degenerating from when i first joined. and sure, there a bound to be douches joining who wreck it for everyone...which is fine. I just dont want to see the same douche in lobby the week after being their douchey doucheful self...douche rant over
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Post by deviousdevil on Oct 1, 2006 7:58:33 GMT -5
I'm pissed. I've had it with people quitting games when they are losing or not having fun. The past few weeks there has been a wave of this utter bullsh*t every single game. 1) People quitting because they have noobs on there team. Either deal with it or don't play with people on your DNP list! 2) People quitting because they feel like it. I don't care if you're not winning. Quit you can expect to get a non-report from me. But what happens? 3 of the 5 people on the other team quit. For no given reason. They just say we need subs, got to go. Quit a game without a good reason and you will be recieving a non-report from me from now on. Amen to that. I'm putting the newly named Immo in non-report for this nonsense which he pulled yesterday. In the past getting someone a sub was no big deal because it was a rare event. Someone had a genuine emergency or that the game had gone on a considerable length of time beyond which we could reasonably set time aside for. At present every bugger and his cat are at it, time to be harsh. But for a ren teamer to leave yourself 1 and a half hours and then just say I need a sub and just go. That is quitting and should involve non-reports.
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Post by MMV on Oct 1, 2006 8:44:38 GMT -5
here's a reply to a courtesy email from a ladder player who quit a teamer:
from player........
it began with an *expletive deleted* - two words, and they weren't "happy birthday"
i have no duty for reporting our team just c rules again children and i never wanna see u agian
(it broke my heart as I forwarded it to admins)
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 1, 2006 13:59:46 GMT -5
Well the solution is simple, you can see my post on the non-report system, after 3 non-reports people get a default 7 day vacation(and it gets worse from there), but I can't punish people if I don't get the reports in the first place, so use the system in place to get rid of these problem children and I'll be glad to do my part.
CS
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Post by tommynt on Oct 1, 2006 16:05:10 GMT -5
hm in fact u dont do it allways, and there are worse things then not reporting imo
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 1, 2006 16:54:24 GMT -5
hm in fact u dont do it allways, and there are worse things then not reporting imo I may not always rule in your favour tommy, but I do infact act, and IMHO non-reports are the single most important issue to stay on top off, all the other rules are meanless if players think that they don't have to report there losses. CS
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Post by MMV on Oct 1, 2006 17:11:00 GMT -5
here's a reply to a courtesy email from a ladder player who quit a teamer: from player........ it began with an *expletive deleted* - two words, and they weren't "happy birthday" i have no duty for reporting our team just c rules again children and i never wanna see u agian (it broke my heart as I forwarded it to admins) The email itself is a violation of ladder rules (and was forwarded) and is independently worthy of at least a suspension - especially since the player is currently "bombed" for non-reports. It's the overall attitude and total lack of regard of the ladder rules that's the issue; not a non-report. Not reporting is the "sympton" of the current disease - not the disease itself.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 1, 2006 18:13:10 GMT -5
Don't worry when I look at non-reports I do take attitude into consideration as well I don't take to well to people wasting my time with attitude and incorrect interpretations of the rules. CS
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Post by Bantams on Oct 10, 2006 9:44:50 GMT -5
everybodysdarling withdrew.
OMG hes had a Bantams/Knupp moment it seems ;D
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Post by ironclad on Oct 10, 2006 10:22:33 GMT -5
even thought there is the report to all rule, no one actually enforces it, which i don't mind
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Post by [KC]Bopper on Oct 10, 2006 10:24:14 GMT -5
EBD withdrew? I've been trying to report a loss to him since playing yesterday and thought my brain had exploded when it wouldn't accept the report. There's only so many ways you can spell everybodysdarling... Hopefully he's coming back...
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 10, 2006 12:29:31 GMT -5
even thought there is the report to all rule, no one actually enforces it, which i don't mind It may not be "enforced" by players in the games, but if a player does file a non-report based on this policy it certainly will be enforced by the non-report admin. CS
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Post by KCwillthec on Oct 21, 2006 12:36:03 GMT -5
Hey all, wow didnt know those were the rules for quitting a teamer. But then, I have never quit a teamer. I have fallen asleep before tho. lol I have noticed that lots of new players make the effort to join ladder, but then blow off the rules for reporting as "not important". That attitude bothers me. I think alot of us VETS need to start educating the noobs on whats to be done. Not just a few "helpers". This ladder belongs to all of us, its our club, so its our responsibility to make sure that peeps follow the rules. AND to educate them. Laters.
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