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Post by Bonez on Oct 5, 2006 14:40:26 GMT -5
no matter really, he tried to go back to C3 and was given the normal "warm and gracious welcome" over there and left due to their overwhelming kindness. (yet the players there seemed SOMEWHAT concerned about the growth and future of their C3 ladder) Welcome back to "Adult Swim" Bantams! MMV... just cause you caught holy hell in civ3 forums cause people felt the need to tell you how wrong you often were, doesn't mean you need to hate. They will see thru your my-chit-dont-stink here too, given time (if they haven't already). As for the intent of this thread... we had similar problems in civ3 while it was an open league. Civ4 will never be this unfortunately... we once had a game cooker over at civ3 named dasdad (affectionately known here as ironclad). Ironically enough he was first person to respond to this thread saying only "lol" . As for this bashing on bantams... I can't say i blame him.... #1 civ3 is a better game... #2 you could make a scenario/mod for civ3 to be exactly like civ4 minus the graphics (and who really does anything but set the view and leave it anyways?) #3 you can see thru your daily results... you are losing about 3 times as many players then you have joining... some due to inactivity, some to multiple accounts... and a withdraw thrown in here or there.... now considering the number of multiple accounts getting tossed... and the number of people joining... i would say about half of who are joining are either a) old people who withdrew and rejoined under a new name, or b) those multiple accounts that you keep kicking. btw... those are just the ones they catch... they are not catching the ones that actually have a clue how to do it sneakily. Sorry CS.... it may be time to revisit the invite-open system... your numbers are COMPLETELY inflated and its all these reasons above as to why....
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Post by Bantams on Oct 5, 2006 15:02:08 GMT -5
;D its nice to see even the civ3 ppl love me too
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Post by Arvcran on Oct 5, 2006 15:38:06 GMT -5
Ah ok - you changed your name by rejoining the ladder with Bantams is now King_Ant[/i] and then you had a little admin help (AGAIN, lol) in changing it back to Bantams. Thankfully the admins are helpful people and can offer their so often needed assistance to you - this is the second time for those VVV'ery difficult laddername accounts, ROFL! [/quote] I am somewhat curious and perhaps a tad paranoid but was the 'VVV' in reference to Our clan? I think you are going overboard with this issue of Bantams and some rules bending. Rules are put in place to avert problems or instill order; they serve no other purpose. If a rule is 'bent' it is because it is going against the spirit of what it was intended to fix. So I also support what the admins did in this particular case. Bantams did absolutely nothing wrong with respect to the spirit of the ladder - as far as I can understand anyway - so give it a rest maybe?
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Post by Arvcran on Oct 5, 2006 15:42:38 GMT -5
So you get an admin to waive the 15 day rejoin wait and then you get an admin to waive the 7 day name change wait. Wow Mookie when did you become the new Cold-Hearted Forum Nazi? You're so much more pleasant in game lol ;D I too was thinking something similar - seems out of character to me - maybe someone is borrowing his account hehe.
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Post by Bonez on Oct 5, 2006 15:56:29 GMT -5
Thanks for stopping by Bonez. In absence of anything actually constructive to say, I will moderate this flame on a respected member of our community. You may choose to enjoy Civ3 over Civ4. That is your perogative. I have played hundreds of hours of each, and I know which I prefer, but that's neither here nor there. But you are not a member of the Civ4 community, and as such, I will not tolerate you coming over here for the sole purpose of putting down our ladder and flaming our members.
-Speaker
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Post by MookieNJ on Oct 5, 2006 16:23:53 GMT -5
we once had a game cooker over at civ3 named dasdad (affectionately known here as ironclad). Just because someone made a rookie mistake testing the limits of the ladder a few years ago as a much younger and less mature person he shouldn't be penalized or criticized for that now. Ironclad may act goofy and nooby sometimes, but he is also a heck of a Civ player and a loyal friend to those who know him. I'm sure you never did anything when you were young that you regret now? What the hell is your problem? You guys over at C3P flip out because someone goes over there and says Civ4 is a better game and now you come over here and do the same? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Jeez. Plus we already have some douche from your league making claims like that here: civ4players.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1158719796All in all I'd say that we handled it a lot more maturely than you guys did over at C3P ... Why do you care? To bring up some of your fellow C3P's concerns: bonez was NOT found on the ladder. Why do you even have an account here? Why are you posting here? You like Civ3 better, you're not a member of this ladder, why waste your time over here? As for the resetting issue ... we've already discussed this issue as well if you'd have bothered to look around the forums a bit rather than just pick any old random thread to start flaming Ironclad. In the end, stat resetting is a benefit received by paying Gold members. Ironclad is hardly the only premium member who takes advantage of this perk and should not be singled out by anyone for doing so, especially by someone who is not even a member of this community. Go back and cry to someone who cares.
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Post by DustyDragoon on Oct 5, 2006 16:44:03 GMT -5
Hey Bonez, You are talking about a subject which most on this ladder or Civ3 know very little about or even care about. Ethics (what's that?) Morals is another word that is somewhat missing from most of their vocabulary's. Thanks for trying though
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Post by MMV on Oct 5, 2006 17:49:56 GMT -5
Bonez posted.
Adult swim is over, lol.
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Post by knupp on Oct 5, 2006 18:41:41 GMT -5
Benez, you posted here and said Civ3 is a better game. That's your opinion. My opinion of civ3 is just about who micromanages to get the biggest stack...no strategy involved at all. But hey that's just my opinion.
What exactly was the point of posting on a Civ4 forum saying Civ3 is better. You aren't a member of the Civ3 ladder. You aren't a member of the Civ4 Ladder. Seems to me the only reason you posted here was to call out an old nemisis who pissed you off a few years ago. Lol why do you care and why do you think we would care about your opinions of members in OUR community and your opinions of how Civ4 sucks?
There has to be a Civ4 bashing forum somewhere. You should spend your time googling for it and post there. At least you would be contributing something other than flaming and causing distress.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 5, 2006 19:36:06 GMT -5
no matter really, he tried to go back to C3 and was given the normal "warm and gracious welcome" over there and left due to their overwhelming kindness. (yet the players there seemed SOMEWHAT concerned about the growth and future of their C3 ladder) Welcome back to "Adult Swim" Bantams! MMV... just cause you caught holy hell in civ3 forums cause people felt the need to tell you how wrong you often were, doesn't mean you need to hate. They will see thru your my-chit-dont-stink here too, given time (if they haven't already). As for the intent of this thread... we had similar problems in civ3 while it was an open league. Civ4 will never be this unfortunately... we once had a game cooker over at civ3 named dasdad (affectionately known here as ironclad). Ironically enough he was first person to respond to this thread saying only "lol" . As for this bashing on bantams... I can't say i blame him.... #1 civ3 is a better game... #2 you could make a scenario/mod for civ3 to be exactly like civ4 minus the graphics (and who really does anything but set the view and leave it anyways?) #3 you can see thru your daily results... you are losing about 3 times as many players then you have joining... some due to inactivity, some to multiple accounts... and a withdraw thrown in here or there.... now considering the number of multiple accounts getting tossed... and the number of people joining... i would say about half of who are joining are either a) old people who withdrew and rejoined under a new name, or b) those multiple accounts that you keep kicking. btw... those are just the ones they catch... they are not catching the ones that actually have a clue how to do it sneakily. Sorry CS.... it may be time to revisit the invite-open system... your numbers are COMPLETELY inflated and its all these reasons above as to why.... Thanks Bonez for your indepth, if totally flawed, analysis of our stats, but we are growing here at C4P, and have maintained over 1200 members since march, and between 13-15, 000 matches per month. And having 3 cases of duplicate accounts in a year of operations is hardly a rampant problem, so don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out CS
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Post by nicoya1 on Oct 5, 2006 19:42:54 GMT -5
i think the vvv referecne was to when bantams became [VVV]Bantams and then became [KC]Bantams in the same day
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Post by zzZhenon on Oct 5, 2006 21:05:56 GMT -5
To quote heroray
"I like ice cream!"
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Post by DustyDragoon on Oct 5, 2006 21:13:51 GMT -5
Benez, you posted here and said Civ3 is a better game. That's your opinion. My opinion of civ3 is just about who micromanages to get the biggest stack...no strategy involved at all. But hey that's just my opinion. What exactly was the point of posting on a Civ4 forum saying Civ3 is better. You aren't a member of the Civ3 ladder. You aren't a member of the Civ4 Ladder. Seems to me the only reason you posted here was to call out an old nemisis who pissed you off a few years ago. Lol why do you care and why do you think we would care about your opinions of members in OUR community and your opinions of how Civ4 sucks? There has to be a Civ4 bashing forum somewhere. You should spend your time googling for it and post there. At least you would be contributing something other than flaming and causing distress. Actually Knupp, I don't think Bonez was stating either was better but that both had good points that might be incorporated into one great game.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 5, 2006 21:26:54 GMT -5
#1 civ3 is a better game... Nope I think he clearly made his opinion known. CS
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Post by MookieNJ on Oct 5, 2006 21:30:31 GMT -5
#1 civ3 is a better game... Nope I think he clearly made his opinion known. Exactly. And crap like that from non-members of our community has no place on these forums.
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Post by DustyDragoon on Oct 5, 2006 22:23:51 GMT -5
Thanks for stopping by Bonez. In absence of anything actually constructive to say, I will moderate this flame on a respected member of our community. You may choose to enjoy Civ3 over Civ4. That is your perogative. I have played hundreds of hours of each, and I know which I prefer, but that's neither here nor there. But you are not a member of the Civ4 community, and as such, I will not tolerate you coming over here for the sole purpose of putting down our ladder and flaming our members.
-Speaker Actually in this post before it was so nicely deleted and modified by Speaker, he was comparing the good and bad points of both. Though I do agree that the flaming on Ironclad should have been taken out, I do think that the rest of the post could have been left. But of course, why look at anything positive a person can contribute when the negative is so much better to concentrate on. Thanks for the deletion Speaker, what on earth was I thinking.
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Post by Bonez on Oct 5, 2006 22:51:26 GMT -5
As a matter of fact, I am a member of civ4players... have been probably longer then most of you (and most likely have posted on these boards long before many of you).... must i use my same name on these forums as is my ladder name? Ironclad didn't do that when he came over there civ3 bashing... but i guess your admins were as I had mentioned before... too many, and very quick on the trigger... CS, is saying (my opinion) civ3 is a better game, reason to get my post deleted? Are my stats which state multiple accounts and inactivity far outweigh the joins, is that incorrect? I may be wrong... but one look at daily's for this week and it doesnt look that way. Was I deleted for "flaming" Ironclad? It seems to me i stated facts, nothing more. I threw up a screenshot of his stats, nothing was made up... hes a gold member as you stated, anyone can go back and see his tendencies. I'll quote MMV when I'll refer to my "visit" here.... were you referring to, in compared to civ4 MMV? Thanks for letting me post... (if this stays, if it gets deleted like the other one, wouldn't surprise me one bit)
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Post by MookieNJ on Oct 5, 2006 23:22:13 GMT -5
If your intention was to have a serious and intelligent discussion of the merits of gold members having the ability to reset their stats you could have left Ironclad out of it. Or you could have mentioned any of the number of other gold members who regularly reset their stats and gone to the trouble to take screenshots of their account information and post them to the thread. Instead you went out of your way to implicate Ironclad after you were already upset with him for posts he made over at the C3P forum. So spare me your specious reasoning and just admit that you were flaming him.
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Post by churchill1 on Oct 6, 2006 1:33:35 GMT -5
Check this out for freakiness Ladder Matches (10/5/06) (Most Recent First) Match Results lun(77) defeated arthur_rodrigues(18) Phlea(10) defeated agreatagent(234) Churchill1(5) defeated CivRider Zheng(N/A) Churchill1(5) defeated CivRider Zheng(N/A) Churchill1(5) defeated CivRider Zheng(N/A) FriedPsitalon(600) defeated CivRider Zheng(N/A) FriedPsitalon(600) defeated CivRider Zheng(N/A) FriedPsitalon(600) defeated CivRider Zheng(N/A) With this msg on one of Fried's reports: MATCH INFORMATION 10/5/06 23:10:47 MATCH COMMENTS: "Remember me " Surreal. Anyone know this guy? He has already withdrawn by the way.
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Post by zzZhenon on Oct 6, 2006 3:05:49 GMT -5
I guess someone wants us to know they're back Or they're trying to imposter CRZ for effect. Good thing we have CS's detective skills.
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