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Post by SirPartyMan on Feb 15, 2006 8:14:28 GMT -5
Several people have commented recently that there is too much smack talk and egotistical posting without purpose. These people are not so much trying to share information as to brag about themselves. The perception is that the noise to content ratio is too high.
On the other hand, whenever the Admins remove posts, some people thinks it's Big Brother censoring them and violating their free speech rights.
Currently, Admins only remove posts that are offensive, personal attacks, and/or flaming.
A more aggressive approach would curtail excessive posting for no purpose other than self-aggrandizement.
Please vote and make comments.
Thanks, SPM
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Post by friedrichpsitalon on Feb 15, 2006 8:26:50 GMT -5
::Shrug:: Obviously, I'm biased, but I like things on the level they are; or possibly transferring more of the crap posting to Off Topic. People want "more exciting drama" but that's not what is going to raise our organization to the level of Apolyton and CFC in professionalism. We're not going to draw more attendance and more respect for our community with some of the threads we've been seeing lately.
Right, wrong, or indifferent - my goal has always been the promotion of CIV MP, and these stupid posts lately aren't cutting it.
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Post by yilar on Feb 15, 2006 8:40:27 GMT -5
Make a subforum with all the "garbage" then people can't complain... We use to have these when I played everquest "Rant and Flames subforums". Then you could simply stay out of that forum. Naturally this was where all the gossip was so you had to read it. But I doubt that will happen for civ4. Sidhe and MGT simply just don't have enough to say
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Post by Magzi on Feb 15, 2006 8:47:45 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with the current level.
As for the egotistical posts, I just skip them, one or two words (sometimes just the title) tells me what they are.
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Post by Avogadro on Feb 15, 2006 8:53:18 GMT -5
a garbage section does sound nice.
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Post by Tony on Feb 15, 2006 9:37:28 GMT -5
I voted be more lenient, that doesnt mean turn it into a flamming nonsense place.
Dusty Dragoon, writes the forum should be to gather useful info about the game, i assume he means stuff like strategy, there is already a section for this that has no smack talk, and this section shuld be kept like this. But notice that section is only posted in once every 2 days.
I dont understand this, trying to keep a family atmosphere the admins tried to premote intially, its not admins job to stop young eyes reading bad words. They can easily open up P2P or even yahoo and see/read something alot worst.
A little friendly rivalry/ego boosting/smack talk is fine, but just for the record what MGT and sidhe do is not the same thing thats long piontless waffle, which is just plain annoying.
EDIT: When i say be more lenient i mean only slightly
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Post by Trayk on Feb 15, 2006 9:40:32 GMT -5
get rid of a couple bad apples and it becomes a non-issue
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Post by eiffel on Feb 15, 2006 9:45:53 GMT -5
Status quo. You are already making good job removing really offending posts, locking threads... Moving to off-topic or "garbage" may be a good idea too. Btw, you should add more smilies ;D
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Post by Ascension/Necrominous on Feb 15, 2006 10:31:08 GMT -5
I am no fan of outright censoring and locking post. Just move it to a different subheadings. If the admins deem a post offensive simple move it to a "Shame On You" section and insert a post stating that certain members post was considered offensive and moved. Member can trust admins discretion or go see for themselves how offensive it is. If you find a thread has degraded into garbage move it to a subheading ("Jerry Springer Section" is my suggestion) and put a disclaimer that once a thread is moved to that section it will no longer be monitored by admins and let people bicker till they wear themselves out. The admins remind me of a mother trying to stop her two sons from fighting sometimes. You gotta let them fight it out at times to get it out of their system. And if they can carp till their hearts content in that section without disturbance they may stop fouling up the new threads.
Move them if you must but please let us members come to our own conclusion as to what is offensive and garbage.
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Post by Lestat on Feb 15, 2006 10:51:35 GMT -5
If someone in hes full life in forum dont post any 1 MP topic only replay (abusive) or playing last word or simular crap, to people which post about game, is lame. If Mrs talking about tommynt and their game it is MP 100% topic. Look that topic and also look all agrresive replay post then right click in forum member and choose see all member post. For me selfish post about MP game is OK but selfish abuse reply-post about nothing is lame. And plz less politic in forum (Free spech) topic.
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Post by Avogadro on Feb 15, 2006 11:35:03 GMT -5
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 15, 2006 13:25:29 GMT -5
If anyone noticed there's been alot of positives to come out of certain smack talk threads or whatever. The so and so's a cheat thread should have been puled from the start as that is a flame without evidence. In future I sugest accusations of cheating be whipped off the boards imediately as they are on the c3c forum. In fact I found out to my cost even though I didn't name players that any accusation of cheating whatsoever gets you a two week ban. Now if someone is blatatntly cheating in a manner that is damaging to the ladders credability wait until the case is proven then post comments or views without names. The admins are more than capable of dealing with cheating allegation they have unfortunately a fair amount of expereince from C3c, please keep this board free of baseless attacks. AS to all those people complaining about my posts being waffle I suggest you prove it. Otherwise that is a flame
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Post by umbra on Feb 15, 2006 14:16:04 GMT -5
Well i think its sad that we cant smack talk each other.
i whant a jerry springer kinda place.
its fun, and i think we all kinda like it.
pepole have there own minds, let them battel it out.
only thing i think should be removed is if some one starts spamming alot, then it should be removed and the person banned.
not someones words on a topic
cuse if you keep edit on the posts that are made,
the admin team is like a muslim land, you controll what pepole can say, and therefor you dictate what they can think.
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Post by Craigbob on Feb 15, 2006 15:35:16 GMT -5
If someone wants to come on here and act like Jesus H. Christ himself and make rediculous claims of glory, let him take the verbal beating he is asking for.
Otherwise, delete the post.
You can't let people make outrageous claims, spam on the board, bring up old closed (yeah, I underlined it, I bet you'll live through it) topics (i.e. cheating), or make blatently egotistical statements in order to degrade everyone else around them, and then protect them. Nobody's going to want to hang around.
EDIT: Case in point, umbra just referred to the admin team as muslim dictators. He is protected to say any outrageous thing he wants to, but if someone tells him to shut the f*** up, they get canned. Rediculous.
I'll go back to my hole. See you in a couple weeks.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 15, 2006 17:02:23 GMT -5
agree with CB, leave them open so long as they serve a useful purpose, levelling the land is great comfort for the soul:)
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Post by salqadri on Feb 15, 2006 22:52:46 GMT -5
the admin team is like a muslim land, you controll what pepole can say, and therefor you dictate what they can think. What on Earth was that for? Please refrain from such comments or I will seriously withdraw from this forum.
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Post by Ascension/Necrominous on Feb 15, 2006 23:13:07 GMT -5
Clarify please. Did it offend because it insulted the adimins by comparing them to Muslims or because it insulted the Muslims by comparing them to admins?
Maybe you should protest the statement by blowing up your CIV disk. Blowing things up seems to scare the hell out of people and intimidates them into doing what you want.
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Post by whiplash on Feb 15, 2006 23:24:40 GMT -5
Well, one of the options being discussed on these boards is to direct the disruptive posters to the Off-Topic Board.
Let me please say that I have started many a thread in Off-Topic in both forums and have enjoyed some spirited, challenging, mature, debate on some important non-civ issues that have been conducted on a mature level. PLEASE DON'T SEND THE MORONS THERE. Some of the recent posts in what I consider serious threads are no more than "you suck", no "yu suck".
Find someplace else to send them! I suggest a "You suck" thread. Set it off all by itself. Let anything fly; any rant, any flame; any moronic expressions.
Also, start a "mine is bigger than your's thread". This is where any moron can dis another moron about how he really sucks in playing the game. The disee can then respond to the disor about how his is really bigger than there's and call him a moron and a slow (kiddy filter working here) because he can't play the game worth chit.
Or, better yet, create a whole separate forum where there are no rules at all and no admin oversight. ANYTHING GOES! The people posting here can criticize admin's or anybody they don't like with impunity. Lies and exaggerations are accepted and embraced. Perhaps call it "GIVE US BARABUS".
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Post by salqadri on Feb 15, 2006 23:33:58 GMT -5
Necro you're asking me to make a discussion out of it. We already have a lot of arguments and discussions unrelated to the purpose of the forum, I dont want to start another one. To clarify, I am a Muslim, and have lived in "Muslim lands" for many years, and I do not think our minds are controlled by dictators; infact, we go against our dictators and try everything we can to make our voice heard. Therefore such comments, based on lack of understanding, are unwelcome to me. I do love the game though, and want to participate in "General" discussions with others that love the game, within the limits I place on myself. Please let this be the end of this discussion, and I refuse to reply to any more "clarification requests" for the sake of the forum. Should you guys wish to continue such talk, and should the admins allow it, thats fine, I'll just withdraw my account.
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Post by Avogadro on Feb 16, 2006 0:30:49 GMT -5
salqadri, Worry not umbra will not be posting here anymore this week and upon hisa reutnr he best keep his view about jew and or any other religion to himself of I 'll make sure he wont post here ever again. WElcome to our community no one here will treat you any different because of your different background. This is a play ground and and place to make friends. We hope to have you around for a long time. Peace GCAvogadro
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