Post by Tony on Dec 5, 2007 0:48:37 GMT -5
Just out of interest do you guys know who the Westboro Baptist Church is?
They have been making quite a few headlines in England over the last 12 months or so. So just because I have a rather inquisitive mind I decided to research them on the internet.
For anyone that doesn't know who they are:
They are a group of people that believe god is punishing America (although this applies to the rest of the world aswell) for its sinful acts, by killing soldiers in Iraq and 9/11. When you first hear about them, they seem like a bunch of nut cases, but they are generally well educated and know the bible probably alot better then any other church. They do some stuff that would seem nasty to most people, like picketing veterans funerals.
They have appeared on many many TV shows and are often questioned by TV presenters that know, like most people, only the basics about the bible, and quote common passages like "love thy neighbor" to which these church members give logical responses, using the bible as a reference. The TV presenter at this point normally gets over emotional and it becomes a pissing match.
Before I go any further let me point out I’m not a Christian and I don’t believe what they say! Or support their views!
BUT ... If you are a Christian, then surely you should be doing as these guys are and not hand selecting what you like and what you don’t. For example the stuff about homosexuality, its mentioned many times in the bible
This second one is clear as day - There are others too.
In england gay priests are generally accepted, which is a direct violation of the bible and these are the people lading the church.
Sure you can twist the above passages, so they might mean others things, but it seems fairly obvious to me - I doubt the bible would be so encrypted as its meant to be a source of knowledge.
There are other example I have found during my "research/boredom" like divorce, remarrying , abortion, etc.
Its seems to me, everyone has taken a very soft "nice to all" approach when this is not true and this is the WBC message.
Those in power, want to stay in power so a as "neutral" stance as possible is taken, without deviating so far you are no longer called a Christian. A similar situation applies to Islam, only those teaching that agree with western values(and are "nice") are acceptable, all other teaching must somehow be twisted to potentially mean something else.
I'm defiantly not a Muslim either BTW.
But the point is if you truly do as your religions asks you to, you are seen as a outcast. The media/schools/those in power are twisting what’s in black and white, to keep a society that is less willing to compromise happy.
It seems people are willing to accept anything so long as they beleive something and have got somewhere to turn in times of need.
They have been making quite a few headlines in England over the last 12 months or so. So just because I have a rather inquisitive mind I decided to research them on the internet.
For anyone that doesn't know who they are:
They are a group of people that believe god is punishing America (although this applies to the rest of the world aswell) for its sinful acts, by killing soldiers in Iraq and 9/11. When you first hear about them, they seem like a bunch of nut cases, but they are generally well educated and know the bible probably alot better then any other church. They do some stuff that would seem nasty to most people, like picketing veterans funerals.
They have appeared on many many TV shows and are often questioned by TV presenters that know, like most people, only the basics about the bible, and quote common passages like "love thy neighbor" to which these church members give logical responses, using the bible as a reference. The TV presenter at this point normally gets over emotional and it becomes a pissing match.
Before I go any further let me point out I’m not a Christian and I don’t believe what they say! Or support their views!
BUT ... If you are a Christian, then surely you should be doing as these guys are and not hand selecting what you like and what you don’t. For example the stuff about homosexuality, its mentioned many times in the bible
You shall not lie with a man as with a woman; that is an abomination.
Make no mistake: no fornicator or idolator, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion, no thieves or grabbers of drunkards of slanderers or swindlers, will possess the kingdom of God.
This second one is clear as day - There are others too.
In england gay priests are generally accepted, which is a direct violation of the bible and these are the people lading the church.
Sure you can twist the above passages, so they might mean others things, but it seems fairly obvious to me - I doubt the bible would be so encrypted as its meant to be a source of knowledge.
There are other example I have found during my "research/boredom" like divorce, remarrying , abortion, etc.
Its seems to me, everyone has taken a very soft "nice to all" approach when this is not true and this is the WBC message.
Those in power, want to stay in power so a as "neutral" stance as possible is taken, without deviating so far you are no longer called a Christian. A similar situation applies to Islam, only those teaching that agree with western values(and are "nice") are acceptable, all other teaching must somehow be twisted to potentially mean something else.
I'm defiantly not a Muslim either BTW.
But the point is if you truly do as your religions asks you to, you are seen as a outcast. The media/schools/those in power are twisting what’s in black and white, to keep a society that is less willing to compromise happy.
It seems people are willing to accept anything so long as they beleive something and have got somewhere to turn in times of need.