Post by Levi on Nov 24, 2007 12:38:05 GMT -5
I thought I would post something I read on The Daily Kos, a progressive blog. TheGreatSatan often posts that Liberals are Communists.
According to davefromqueens, there are many ways in which Conservatives are like communists. Are Conservatives more like communists than Liberals?
davefromqueens's diary
I've often defined economic conservatism as "communism through the corporation" (with a lot of help from big govt, corporate welfare, and unfair market rules) and use terms such as "socialism for the rich" and "bourgeoissie Marxism." The similarities between conservatives and communists on social images are obvious.
One of the most effective ways to communicate this publicly is to say something as simple as "communists and conservatives believe in _____ but I believe in _________." Linking conservatism to communism and then having hours of topic and examples to back it up is very effective.
Now the partial list. (This can easily be expanded threefold.)
1. Anti-Environmentalism Radicalism. (Cons put the economic interests of the corporation first. Communists the economic interests of the govt bureaucracy first. The rest of us put the people first.)
2. Anti-Middle Class Tax policies (This is at the cornerstone of both philosophies. Sadly, conservatism is worse.)
3. Boy Scout/Pioneer type groups for children. Compare the right wing forces behind the Boy Scouts and the Communist programs of their Pioneers. They're mirror images of each other.
4. Bureaucrats Making Medical Decisions (HMO bureaucrats are basically the same thing as communist health care bureaucrats. The rest of us want doctors and patients making these decisions.)
5. Censorship
6. Civil Rights Opposition
7. Death Penalty Fanaticism - Granted there are many progressives, liberals, and moderates who support this but it is usually communists and conservatives who are most gung ho about the death penalty.
8. Excessive and Unwarranted Use of Military Force. War is profitable, peace is not. Both philosophies also tend to distrust people.
9. Flag Desecration means jail.
10. Govt Owns A Woman's Womb Yep, even on abortions the communists believe they control a woman's womb.
11. Habeas Corpus Denial
12. Illegal Wiretapping of Citizens
13. Immigration Hostility - Both philosophies tend to be distrustful of immigrants and seek to deny newcomers opportunities.
14. Individual Rights Denying - Both philosophies hate the individual and don't believe in individual rights.
15. Lack of Due Process.
16. Media Consolidation.
17. No Right To Privacy.
18. Occupational Safety Denying -
19. Orphanages That Suck - Compare Newt Served Wife With Divorce Papers While In Hospital Bed Undergoing Cancer Treatment Gingrich's plan for orphanages to the communists plan for orphanages. Both support run down abuse centers straight out of Oliver Twist.
20. Patriotism Misdefined-- Both define it in terms of shallow symbols and blind nationalism.
21. Police Abuse and Brutality - Both conservatives and communists oppose good cops and instead want to see law enforcement run by rogue cops who misuse their public positions for political witchhunts.
22. Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
23. Rote Learning In Education (NCLB's teach to the test curriculum is Soviet communism education revamped.)
24. Sex police - Both philosophies want to regulate consenting private sexual activity between adults.
25. Sexism -- Both philosophies tend to view women as inferiors out of the twisted Victorian era and not as equals.
26. Tort Rights Destruction -- (including govt bureaucrats not jurors making decisions, denying plaintiffs access to courts, and loser pay schemes)
27. Torture
28. Underfunding of Schools
29. Unions -- Both philosophies oppose democratic unions.
30. Voter Rights Denying - both oppose free, fair, and honest elections where all adults are registered to vote and their votes are accurately counted.
31. Wasteful Defense Spending - Both philosophies actually oppose strong national defense. Instead they support using the military budge as a welfare distribution center for cronies and unnecessary expenses.
32. Welfare For The Well Connected Neither philosophy believes in merit or opportunity. It's about power and using that power to reward your cronies and ass lickers.
33. Workplace Discrimination Permitted - Both philosophies believe that govt bureaucrats and corporate management may discriminate against their workers for illegal reasons and the screwed employees shall have no recourse.
thegreatsatan said:
liberal commies thegreatsatan said:
That is a dark crappy road that only a brainwashed, Stalinist, commie, liberal would take us down…..I don't want some commie lib to dictate to me what is and isn't PC thegreatsatan said:
Only a brainswashed commie liberal would think banning words is a good ideathegreatsatan said:
The modern liberal or progressive as they like to be called, are really just commies with a new name.According to davefromqueens, there are many ways in which Conservatives are like communists. Are Conservatives more like communists than Liberals?
davefromqueens's diary
I've often defined economic conservatism as "communism through the corporation" (with a lot of help from big govt, corporate welfare, and unfair market rules) and use terms such as "socialism for the rich" and "bourgeoissie Marxism." The similarities between conservatives and communists on social images are obvious.
One of the most effective ways to communicate this publicly is to say something as simple as "communists and conservatives believe in _____ but I believe in _________." Linking conservatism to communism and then having hours of topic and examples to back it up is very effective.
Now the partial list. (This can easily be expanded threefold.)
1. Anti-Environmentalism Radicalism. (Cons put the economic interests of the corporation first. Communists the economic interests of the govt bureaucracy first. The rest of us put the people first.)
2. Anti-Middle Class Tax policies (This is at the cornerstone of both philosophies. Sadly, conservatism is worse.)
3. Boy Scout/Pioneer type groups for children. Compare the right wing forces behind the Boy Scouts and the Communist programs of their Pioneers. They're mirror images of each other.
4. Bureaucrats Making Medical Decisions (HMO bureaucrats are basically the same thing as communist health care bureaucrats. The rest of us want doctors and patients making these decisions.)
5. Censorship
6. Civil Rights Opposition
7. Death Penalty Fanaticism - Granted there are many progressives, liberals, and moderates who support this but it is usually communists and conservatives who are most gung ho about the death penalty.
8. Excessive and Unwarranted Use of Military Force. War is profitable, peace is not. Both philosophies also tend to distrust people.
9. Flag Desecration means jail.
10. Govt Owns A Woman's Womb Yep, even on abortions the communists believe they control a woman's womb.
11. Habeas Corpus Denial
12. Illegal Wiretapping of Citizens
13. Immigration Hostility - Both philosophies tend to be distrustful of immigrants and seek to deny newcomers opportunities.
14. Individual Rights Denying - Both philosophies hate the individual and don't believe in individual rights.
15. Lack of Due Process.
16. Media Consolidation.
17. No Right To Privacy.
18. Occupational Safety Denying -
19. Orphanages That Suck - Compare Newt Served Wife With Divorce Papers While In Hospital Bed Undergoing Cancer Treatment Gingrich's plan for orphanages to the communists plan for orphanages. Both support run down abuse centers straight out of Oliver Twist.
20. Patriotism Misdefined-- Both define it in terms of shallow symbols and blind nationalism.
21. Police Abuse and Brutality - Both conservatives and communists oppose good cops and instead want to see law enforcement run by rogue cops who misuse their public positions for political witchhunts.
22. Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons
23. Rote Learning In Education (NCLB's teach to the test curriculum is Soviet communism education revamped.)
24. Sex police - Both philosophies want to regulate consenting private sexual activity between adults.
25. Sexism -- Both philosophies tend to view women as inferiors out of the twisted Victorian era and not as equals.
26. Tort Rights Destruction -- (including govt bureaucrats not jurors making decisions, denying plaintiffs access to courts, and loser pay schemes)
27. Torture
28. Underfunding of Schools
29. Unions -- Both philosophies oppose democratic unions.
30. Voter Rights Denying - both oppose free, fair, and honest elections where all adults are registered to vote and their votes are accurately counted.
31. Wasteful Defense Spending - Both philosophies actually oppose strong national defense. Instead they support using the military budge as a welfare distribution center for cronies and unnecessary expenses.
32. Welfare For The Well Connected Neither philosophy believes in merit or opportunity. It's about power and using that power to reward your cronies and ass lickers.
33. Workplace Discrimination Permitted - Both philosophies believe that govt bureaucrats and corporate management may discriminate against their workers for illegal reasons and the screwed employees shall have no recourse.