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Post by ordoabchao on Nov 14, 2007 0:04:32 GMT -5
Those sneaky chinamen always just pop up out of no where. Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board. By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier. The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines. And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it. www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=492804&in_page_id=1811
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Post by thegreatsatan on Nov 14, 2007 1:48:55 GMT -5
china is one of the best friends america has. War with america would skrew them if they own our dept. And honestly, where else they gunna go? The euro? The most over rated currency ever. As if europe is stable. The place brakes out into all out wars about every 50 years. So there due. Anyone that knows anything, knows the US and china are tied at the hip. They may not like each other but they depend on each other to much to let the other go.
know this
U have far more to fear from crazy islams brainwashed into thinking u are the great satan.
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Post by ordoabchao on Nov 14, 2007 15:07:17 GMT -5
fearing any man is dumb. AND lol if u haven't looked around the world America IS BECOMING the great satan. unless u call 1.5 million dead iraqs, half of which are children Godly??? Then we are benevolent liberators who got saddam back for using the weapons WE gave him. anyway check this out its super funny ROFL www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HIavxnUHls
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Post by thegreatsatan on Nov 14, 2007 16:43:02 GMT -5
ordoabchao rather have Saddam passing out giant lotto lookin checks on TV to the familys of sucide bombers.
fearing any man is dumb.
(some people earn your respect, others earn your fear.)
AND lol if u haven't looked around the world America IS BECOMING the great satan.
(another brainwashed lib. sounds like u "fear" america)
unless u call 1.5 million dead iraqs, half of which are children Godly???
(killed by islam u mean. in the battle against the great satan)
Then we are benevolent liberators who got saddam back for using the weapons WE gave him.
(ya, and he was passing out lotto looking checks on TV to sucide bombers. Shoulda let the jews nuke him)
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 8, 2007 4:14:03 GMT -5
Those sneaky chinamen always just pop up out of no where. Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board. By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier. The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines. And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it. www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=492804&in_page_id=1811Alot of people read more into this than is there. Sure it is embarrassing for the Commanding officer of the battlegroup out there when his ships are unable to detect a potentially hostile submarine. What you should not be taking from this however is any notion that this is symbolic of China's military parity with the United States. Such parity does not exist. Any navy in the world can sneak a diesel electric submarine up close to an American battle group. Diesel electric subs have the capability to run completely off of battery power for short periods of time, rendering them almost completely invisible to sonar. Nuclear submarines are much harder to keep quiet because of all the coolant pumps and so forth making noise while keeping the reactor core stable. American subs are the quietest nuke subs in the world, but that does not mean they are quieter than a diesel electric sub when it is running only on batteries. You may ask then, why do we not make all of our subs diesel electric. That would be a good question, and the answer is that drawbacks of such a system far outweigh the positives. Diesel electric subs are very limited in their range when running on batteries, and when their batteries run down, they must surface and recharge the batteries with the diesel engines, making tons of noise while they do so. American subs can leave San Diego, and cross the entire pacific ocean undetected without surfacing. Diesel subs must run on the surface most of the time, and can only submerge while running on batteries. This means that we usually know where they are by using satalites to track them. It is likely that the only reason this one was able to get so close to the battlegroup without surfacing is that he was submerged and just sitting there, and we kinda stumbled into him. Had this Chinese sub done anything crazy like flooded his torpedo tubes, the American subs in the battle group (that the Chinese sub could not have known the location of) would have heard it, and known where the Chinese boat was, and destroyed it. In summary, Diesel boats have one ace in the hole, they can be very very very quiet, but only for a little while, and the rest of the time everybody knows where they are. American subs are very very quiet all of the time, and they do not have to constantly surface to recharge their batteries. Also, the Chinese do have a few nuclear subs, and they suck. They are noisy all the time, but they dont have to surface constantly. That kinda rambled on and jumped around a bit I know, but you get the idea.
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