|
Post by thegreatsatan on Sept 9, 2007 12:51:21 GMT -5
I was watching a show on the history channel called the universe. On this show, a bunch of real smart guys say that the universe was made by a big bang. They say that this big clump of mass just poofed into existance, exploded, and then pulls itself back together with gravity. All this maybe true. We coulda all started from some egg that poofed into existance. My question to the smart people is, if one egg can poof into existance, can other eggs? Could there be big bangs going off all the time? To say the universe is limited to only 1 egg is kinda small minded. I agree with einstien that the universe is infinate.
|
|
|
Post by MMV on Sept 9, 2007 16:31:49 GMT -5
O M G
you're not great (and you misspelled satin)
|
|
|
Post by DrShot on Sept 9, 2007 17:38:53 GMT -5
Think of a Galaxy as a slide or a swing set; a piece of playground equipment. Now think of a huge playground with all different types of slides, swings, monkey bars and so on and on again. The Universe is the playground. There may well be other universes, perhaps even parallel one(s). In the last few years astrophysicists and theorists have come to believe(not all of them , of course) that in each Galaxy, at the center lay a black hole. Black Holes are not 'visible' as the ultra gravity traps even light! The theorists have determined their theories by observing the patterns of the visible objects around the 'dark' spots. The gravity created by said Black Holes in turn forces an orbit of the matter(planets, debris etc.) around the 'dark' spot. Think of the massive gravity our Sun or a star produces and the resulting cyclical orbiting matter. The orbits are degenerating, meaning they are dawn to wards the force. Earth creates a similar field upon our moon. Yes, the moon is actually getting closer to earth constantly, as are we to the Sun! "Super massive Black Holes" are unthinkably large and powerful. As matter goes past the event horizon of a Black Hole where does it go? Tough to say, the pounding gravity would surely squish it beyond compare. Another newer theory indicates once a Super massive BH has consumed a Galaxy it may spit it out or explode as the matter must be constant in one form or another, think of a star going super nova. This is like a 'big bang', no? E=MC² Galaxies move not only around their center yet around the Universe. Andromeda, our closest neighbor is coming to visit us at a fast pace. Not to worry, the distance is so great that we have plenty of time to get outa dodge before we meet. who's to say, the Sun may simply go nova on our ass by then(really only takes one well aimed solar flare to wipe out life on this planet). Have a good day.
|
|
|
Post by zzZhenon on Sept 9, 2007 17:54:19 GMT -5
I think we're looking at it all wrong, the earth isn't round per se, it's an inverted sphere, so you could travel to the other side of the world by going into space and across the universe to the other end. The Earth isn't in the Universe, the Universe is in Earth ;D
|
|
|
Post by DrShot on Sept 9, 2007 18:05:43 GMT -5
I think we're looking at it all wrong, the earth isn't round per se, it's an inverted sphere, so you could travel to the other side of the world by going into space and across the universe to the other end. The Earth isn't in the Universe, the Universe is in Earth ;D um, don't take the brown acid.... it's bad
|
|
|
Post by xiaojuzi on Sept 10, 2007 0:29:11 GMT -5
universe is a philosophical concept, universe is the existence of substance,existence is universe. why these smart guys exert themselves to prove the existence of existence?its nonsense. even if the metagalaxy truely originated from a bigbang,there should be other para-bigbangs,and i cant see any deal with the word "universe".
|
|
|
Post by thegreatsatan on Sept 10, 2007 10:31:48 GMT -5
Those smart guys are working on a scientific way to answer one of the oldest questions ever, "where am I?" Well, as of now the answer is "you're n da universe"
But what is a universe? the frase universe is sometimes used wrong. There are no universes in the universe.(not that there can't be simaler things, but then they are just another part of the greater hole) The frase universe is ment to count for everything that exist all in 1. Some people decide that saying "god made the b!<th 5000 years ago" wasn't true. And thus another search for another "truth" began.
There have been all kinds of theorys threw time. This is a question mankind has been thinkin about.
|
|
[KC]Bopper
Worker
The Knight Who Says 'Giddy-Up!'
Posts: 136
|
Post by [KC]Bopper on Sept 15, 2007 16:42:20 GMT -5
"Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup They slither while they pass they slip away across the universe" - J Lennon
|
|
|
Post by thegreatsatan on Sept 19, 2007 14:25:57 GMT -5
so what lennon is saying is that things are meaningless to discuss. That we should just execpt things and move on? I can see why a commie dictator would say that.
|
|
|
Post by MMV on Sept 19, 2007 20:51:55 GMT -5
so what lennon is saying is that things are meaningless to discuss. That we should just execpt things and move on? I can see why a commie dictator would say that. First of all, J Lennon isn't say anything (he's a dead Beatle) Additionally, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin was one of the leading political figures and revolutionary thinkers of the 20th century, who masterminded the Bolshevik take-over of power in Russia in 1917 and was the architect and first head of the Soviet state (and he's not saying anything either, he's been dead longer than the Beatle) So, if you're looking for intelligent conversation and wonder what's amiss with the lack of it - now you know. Wait - sorry.... If you want smart talk on smart stuff, get smarter
|
|
|
Post by Bantams on Sept 20, 2007 6:20:18 GMT -5
Well I asked Jeeves and this is what he said The Universe is a vast expanse of space which contains all of the matter and energy in existence. The Universe contains all of the galaxies, stars, and planets. The exact size of the Universe is unknown. Scientists believe the Universe is still expanding outward. They believe this outward expansion is the result of a violent, powerful explosion that occurred about 13.7 billion years ago. This explosion is known as the Big Bang. By looking at an object's electromagnetic spectrum, scientists can determine if an object is moving away from Earth or towards Earth. When distant objects, such as quasars, are viewed from Earth, their spectrum is shifted towards red. Whenever there is a shift in a spectrum, it is called a Doppler Shift. If the shift is toward red, the light given off by the object is in longer wavelengths. When an object moves away from Earth, the light that it is giving off is seen in longer wavelengths. When an object moves toward Earth, the light that it is giving off is seen in shorter wavelengths. This causes a shift in the object's spectrum towards violet. The amount of shift in an object's spectrum is determined by how fast the object is moving. All of the distant galaxies have tremendous red shifts. Based on these data, scientists believe the Universe is still expanding outward.
|
|
|
Post by tamijo on Sept 20, 2007 8:24:01 GMT -5
some "belive" its all explained in 1 (very oldfasioned) book. some constantly writing new books about it. some is criticing the book's about it (prob too stupid to write one) Common thing is, they are all in it for the money , and we will never get to a final answer
|
|
marr
Worker
Posts: 169
|
Post by marr on Sept 23, 2007 17:15:57 GMT -5
The universe I believe is much like static. Explosions of an instant are the constants of the basis of all matter, smaller then the atom, smaller then a quark. I base this off the model of our universe. White dwarf implodes, then explodes. This must be the constant of matter as well just in a very micro nano scale.
The universe I believe is infinite, in much as a spec of dust has gravity and potential energy, this dust collects other dust until friction breaks dust down and creates heat causing chemical reactions with impacts from other dust etc. This happens all over the known universe all the time creating a series of big bangs if big bangs are even the generation of a new galaxy which I believe they are not following my basic thoughts on an explosion of an instant.
Eric Lerner writes a nice book refuting the big bang. written in the 80s tho, little outdated with todays technology but its informative none the less.
|
|