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Post by ot4e on Aug 15, 2007 13:53:50 GMT -5
Yes please ban Cristo, ban it completely. It is way too good to slave under police state, draft and then switch to the farming civic. I dont see how it can be restricted, ban it completely.
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Post by everybodysdarling on Aug 17, 2007 6:43:30 GMT -5
I hate to see RaY did not register for this CCC. It takes so much fun from playing this CCC. To kick RaY out of an event was always MUD's priority number 1.
Mookie, I hope you and your guys will come back next CCC. The competition is simply decreasing without you.
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Post by ot4e on Aug 17, 2007 7:35:45 GMT -5
I hate to see RaY did not register for this CCC. It takes so much fun from playing this CCC. To kick RaY out of an event was always MUD's priority number 1. Mookie, I hope you and your guys will come back next CCC. The competition is simply decreasing without you. They probably still cant recover after they scrapped all sunday events last CCC. Mookie kicked everybody and tried to register in CCC alone but probably missnoticed the rule that "the clan has to have 6 ppl at least".
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Post by TheClash on Aug 17, 2007 9:10:42 GMT -5
Yes please ban Cristo, ban it completely. It is way too good to slave under police state, draft and then switch to the farming civic. I dont see how it can be restricted, ban it completely. Whats the decision about Redentor. In OCC its realy terrible if spy and Redentor are used together. There is nothing a player can do against it. Ban Redentor or do not allow to use Redentor together with a spy !
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 17, 2007 9:17:06 GMT -5
Yes please ban Cristo, ban it completely. It is way too good to slave under police state, draft and then switch to the farming civic. I dont see how it can be restricted, ban it completely. Whats the decision about Redentor. In OCC its realy terrible if spy and Redentor are used together. There is nothing a player can do against it. Ban Redentor or do not allow to use Redentor together with a spy ! Take a look at the general rules for the CCC.(the first paragraph) CS
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Post by TheClash on Aug 17, 2007 10:15:38 GMT -5
Whats the decision about Redentor. In OCC its realy terrible if spy and Redentor are used together. There is nothing a player can do against it. Ban Redentor or do not allow to use Redentor together with a spy ! Take a look at the general rules for the CCC.(the first paragraph) CS **The Christo Rendentor is banned from being used to change your opponents civics**Ok,thx. Which means if you got the Redentor your not allowed to use your spy to change opponents civs. If you got no Redentor you can use your spy to change opponents civs ?
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Post by axius on Aug 17, 2007 12:11:38 GMT -5
That rule is confusing. Cristo Redentor is not used to change opponents' civics - spies are used for that. Cristo just allows you to set your civics to stone age before using spies to change other people's civis and then change yours back to the good ones. So, to ban that exploit, you need to ban the spy mission Influence Civics.
However, Cirsto Redentor itself is way too powerful even without that exploit! Using the benefits of slavery, draft, buying production - all at the same time and while actually having other civics at the start of each turn - that's way too much of an advantage. This wonder should be banned at least from individual events, and possibly from teamers too.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 17, 2007 12:20:41 GMT -5
Take a look at the general rules for the CCC.(the first paragraph) CS **The Christo Rendentor is banned from being used to change your opponents civics**Ok,thx. Which means if you got the Redentor your not allowed to use your spy to change opponents civs. If you got no Redentor you can use your spy to change opponents civs ? Yes normal spy/espionage functions are fine. But using CR to change your civics before you use a spy to change the other players civics is banned. CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 17, 2007 12:22:31 GMT -5
That rule is confusing. Cristo Redentor is not used to change opponents' civics - spies are used for that. Cristo just allows you to set your civics to stone age before using spies to change other people's civis and then change yours back to the good ones. So, to ban that exploit, you need to ban the spy mission Influence Civics. However, Cirsto Redentor itself is way too powerful even without that exploit! Using the benefits of slavery, draft, buying production - all at the same time and while actually having other civics at the start of each turn - that's way too much of an advantage. This wonder should be banned at least from individual events, and possibly from teamers too. I will be taking feedback from the CCCAC on CR related issues after this CCC, however, I do not want to start banning everything in sight 3 weeks after the release of BTS. CS
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Post by tamijo on Aug 17, 2007 13:21:10 GMT -5
And for anyone having issues with the UQC mod, I recommend that you delete all your old UQC folders, and ensure you install this UQC in your BTS/Mods folder NOT in your My Games../..mods folder, and if you let C4F install a version there make sure you go and delete that. After that it should work fine. Worse case if you can't see the hosts game, you can still Direct IP into the game fine as well. CS Just drop the UQC compleetly never seen anyone play it unless they are forced to cos its in CCC. PEOPLE PLAY OCC REN Ironman as a UQC i think i have never even seen hosted.
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Post by axius on Aug 17, 2007 15:23:21 GMT -5
Totally agree about OCC. UQC OCC is ok, but nobody really plays it. 90% of all OCC ladder games are currently played on Ren. But in CCC by some reason the OCC event has been anything but Ren - at least for the last year. Why is the most popular era being ignored like that?
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 17, 2007 15:33:35 GMT -5
And for anyone having issues with the UQC mod, I recommend that you delete all your old UQC folders, and ensure you install this UQC in your BTS/Mods folder NOT in your My Games../..mods folder, and if you let C4F install a version there make sure you go and delete that. After that it should work fine. Worse case if you can't see the hosts game, you can still Direct IP into the game fine as well. CS Just drop the UQC compleetly never seen anyone play it unless they are forced to cos its in CCC. PEOPLE PLAY OCC REN Ironman as a UQC i think i have never even seen hosted. The UQC ironman is the "sunday scenario" that is an event that could be anything. As to the OCC, I ran a poll awhile ago on that issue and UQC was still the popular vote, I will revisit the issue after this CCC. And I think Bopper and his core group of UQC players would disagree with you on the statement that no one plays UQC. In fact with BTS only being 3 weeks old you can't really make any statements about what people are playing yet. And I'm not going to change the CCC at the last moment on the complaint of 2 players, sorry. I asked first the CCCAC for input and then I have had this thread up for nearly two weeks now. I hope everyone has a good time this weekend and try and be patient if there are unplanned for issues. CS
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Post by tamijo on Aug 18, 2007 3:18:41 GMT -5
Ya of couse y cant change it this late, was more a hint to consider that for next time. Just think is a bit harsh on the player that like the REN OCC. It is a game beeing played several times every day. more that the cton in fact (at the times im online). And its not in CCC. If Booper is hosting many UQC it must be at the times im not online.
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Post by Bantams on Aug 18, 2007 3:29:54 GMT -5
and yes Tamijo is right Only Bopper plays UQC on a regular basis and I aint seen him play one game since BtS was released oh and it seems that Star Wars Mod whatever its called is more popular than UQC and that wasnt in the CCC!
PS. 5 CCCs now can STYX be on the CCC advisory Council?
Yup Just checked Boppers not played in 16 days!
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Post by [KC]Bopper on Aug 18, 2007 3:54:02 GMT -5
Jeez, can't a guy go on holiday? Just got back today and I'm glad to see the BTS UQC bug has been fixed. Tried it, love it, why do y'all hate it so much? Anyway, I see 5 players reg'd for the event and looking forward to giving it a go. Lotsa luck to everybody in all the CCC games!
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Post by Canucksoldier on Aug 19, 2007 16:08:53 GMT -5
I would like to get any and all feedback from players and clans now that this CCC has been played out. How were the maps. settings, eras etc? I'll ask more specific questions or polls later.
CS
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Post by Bantams on Aug 20, 2007 1:57:08 GMT -5
1:Lets have a Final Frontier Event in next CCC seems lots of people like it! 2:Can I have a invite to the CCC advisory Council or can ya email one to TheUnaDonkey on behalf of STYX 3:lets Scrap Uqc OCC and go back to a Good Old OCC renny event! 4:The Uqc Ironman seemed to run OK 5:HB Inland Sea V3 map looks the same as HB Inland sea V2 I suggest Using HB TBG V3 Instead all of which can be downloaded here anyway www.styx-civ-clan.com/downloadsarea.htm6:too many God Damn Teamers
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Post by venceslas on Aug 20, 2007 3:39:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the french announcement CS.
About the map, even thoug I'm aware that many people has voted for HB inland map in the medieval era, I have feeling that's now a rather single stragegic event(a race point). We will prefer a comeback at the standard inland sea map.
All others map seems ok(even though donnut 1v1 or random is sometime unfair). But assume that too much equality kill a bit the fun.
chris.
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Post by penny on Aug 20, 2007 13:39:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the CCC, it was great . As for the map, I'll stick to what I played : Médival was unplayable, BTS probably slowed rush in that era, but setting up the event on HB map was killing any chance of kill. In CCC 49, we lost to MUD because they played good defense, we took a city, not enough though. Here they played defense, but there was NOTHING ELSE to do. Also, HB considerably narrows the amount of good civ pick (HB: Imp civs, Gandhi; Inland: Same + Expansive, Both Egyptian, etc.) If Inland is still massively voted as best map like it was, I do not see any reason not to switch it back. CTON: Was fun to change, I don't mind really Ironman : It was Green_Ring. About the 'Green' of it, I realize sometimes with this map, you've got, real loads of Hills/Forest Hills. Bit sad, But still the best map. About the shape, It has been 4 CCC in a row we played Ring, despite Ring and wheel constantly drawing in polls, moving it to wheel should be fun. EDIT: Know what ? Have been thinking, We should allow unrestricted leaders for Ironman. let people create new strat, it's very Pacal-based ATM
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Post by grilla on Aug 20, 2007 14:51:30 GMT -5
About the UQC OCC. I personally think its sucks heinie, but thats my personal opinion. I play constant Renny OCC and Some Indu OCC. We have a nutsload of teamers its about time we have a nutsload of OCC's. Why not have a Renny OCC, an Indu OCC and a UQC OCC? I'm sure we'll get the players.
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