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Post by rokkitlauncher on Apr 3, 2007 12:46:38 GMT -5
everyone who posted on this thread about another player is an a_sshole lol
you wanna talk about peoples personal problems, then go talk to them, or better yet, just let it go. its only a game, at least last time i checked it was
longhorn, i think you should withdraw from the ladder, you only comlpain about the status of the ladder and about the players on the ladder, and about the ccc events. i havent heard you say anything nice or positive for so long, take up personal problems with our clan with mookie, or one of the other senior members if you hate civ, the players and the community so much, go do a favour and buy another game
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Post by TheClash on Apr 3, 2007 12:55:25 GMT -5
everyone who posted on this thread about another player is an a_sshole lol rofl rokkit, does it mean you see yourselve as an a_sshole. Or how should i read your comment reg. longhorn: a_sshole ?
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Post by rokkitlauncher on Apr 3, 2007 13:21:50 GMT -5
i at no point said he was a noob, called him a bad name or referred to his civ skills.
those are things which should be discussed in private
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Post by TheClash on Apr 3, 2007 13:27:09 GMT -5
i at no point said he was a noob, called him a bad name or referred to his civ skills. those are things which should be discussed in private ah understood, so you see yourselve not as an a_sshole
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Post by knupp on Apr 3, 2007 14:30:55 GMT -5
Sigh, another reason why I said this entire forum needed an overhaul. Can nobody do anything except attack eachother. It's a fu**ing game. Give me a break, all of you.
I've always tried to be as nice as humanly possible, and have as much sportmanship as I can offer. If RaY was as bad as you all make it out to be then i wouldn't be a part of it. Sure we host RaY vs RaY games a lot. Not because we are "elitist"...did you ever think maybe we want to practice games with eachother and not some random ppl?
As for Metallian being a smack talker, everybody knows that. There are smacktalkers in every clan. If you would all like me to stoop down to your level and name names then i'll be glad to do it. Just tell me.
@ Church -- you and me have always been friends, even after you left RaY. i'm sorry you didn't have fun in our clan or whatever, but that's due to the fact you were never on ts. A big part of our clan is about ts, we are all friends, like to have fun, and learn from our games. I believe 100% that the reason some ppl like to think we take this game too seriously is for exactly that reason. We like to Learn from our mistakes and get better at this game! Is that so f'ing bad!??!!!!!?!!?!?!
I for one stick by every single statement that my clan-mates have said on these forums. I can't ever remember ONE POST EVER ATTACKING ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL OR CLAN (except for Metallian's post in this thread, which I believe he had good reason to post)! WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE THE BEST MP COMMUNITY WE CAN. IF YOU DONT LIKE OUR SUGGESTIONS THEN DEBATE WITH US, DONT ATTACK US!
@ Longhorn -- I've always tried to been nice to you. I have always always always been f_ucking nice to you. The way you conduct yourself in this thread and the way you attack my clan because you don't agree with us...well you do nothing as an admin. Absolutely nothing. All you do is b*tch because we don't like the games you like. I don't know why your position hasn't been removed. I can see a lot better potential admins than you.
My rant is NOT over. My blood is on fire right now. Maybe you guys don't know this but most of the RaY clan is on the beta-test team. We are constantly fighting against the (ignorant) SP community and the developers. as for me I'm done beta-testing. If me and my clan is going to be treated like this then I for one don't give a damn about you. i'll play RaY vs RaY games all day and all night having fun. I'll no longer waste my time.
As I've said multiple times, this enitire forum is a load of bull*nuts. I'm almost thinking of leaving this ladder and joining the french ladder. At least those guys can conduct themselves in a normal, mature, and fun manner rather than attacking anybody who doesn't agree with them.
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Post by churchill1 on Apr 3, 2007 15:04:48 GMT -5
@ Church -- you and me have always been friends, even after you left RaY. i'm sorry you didn't have fun in our clan or whatever, but that's due to the fact you were never on ts. A big part of our clan is about ts, we are all friends, like to have fun, and learn from our games. Agreed. Also you are for the most part Americans, so there were time and may be cultural issues. Well in any case I don't think I ever complained about my time in RaY, I got a lot of help from players more experienced than myself. I believe 100% that the reason some ppl like to think we take this game too seriously is for exactly that reason. We like to Learn from our mistakes and get better at this game! Is that so f'ing bad!??!!!!!?!!?!?! No its not bad at all and its exactly what makes RaY a very strong clan. Its something I have a lot of respect for. I only say that some of you guys take it too seriously because of petty smack and general bad sportsmanship. Not saying gg but rather complaining about land, cheating, whatever. I think there is at least one person in GOD who has the same attitude, so I can't say that its only a RaY thing. I believe strongly that very high quality play and competition can go hand in hand with a fun game and good sportsmanship, Mookie and yourself and well probably the majority of RaY have demonstrated this many times. One thing that really bugs me is that a couple of RaY guys have decided they absolutely hate me (and others) for some unknown reason. IF YOU DONT LIKE OUR SUGGESTIONS THEN DEBATE WITH US, DONT ATTACK US! I think this is still directed at me, if not you can ignore this. If you check my original post in this thread (86), I was challenging Mookie that he was refusing to admit to the use of pseudonyms and multiple accounts in his clan. Later on he did admit it had occured and voiced his disapproval and now I'm a happy bunny. I also threw in the fact I had been bad-mouthed by Metallian during the anc final. In hindsight that was inappropriate, but once again I wanted to see what Mookie thought about this, because IMO in the past he has seemed to defend his clan mates when they've been clearly out of line (please note the use of IMO here!). He also gave a good answer about that (after being pushed ^^), so now I'm an extra happy bunny. I don't think I referred to any suggestions, nevermind attacking you over them. In fact I voiced my approval for a divisional CCC as proposed by Mookie.
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Post by cryptococcus on Apr 3, 2007 16:28:03 GMT -5
everyone who posted on this thread about another player is an a_sshole lol you wanna talk about peoples personal problems, then go talk to them, or better yet, just let it go. its only a game, at least last time i checked it was longhorn, i think you should withdraw from the ladder, you only comlpain about the status of the ladder and about the players on the ladder, and about the ccc events. i havent heard you say anything nice or positive for so long, take up personal problems with our clan with mookie, or one of the other senior members if you hate civ, the players and the community so much, go do a favour and buy another game GJ noobit you make the most sense out of anyone here. Sorry LH, but your pretty lame lately. You should really start slaving and making workers imho
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Post by rokkitlauncher on Apr 3, 2007 17:03:41 GMT -5
i at no point said he was a noob, called him a bad name or referred to his civ skills. those are things which should be discussed in private ah understood, so you see yourselve not as an a_sshole i never said im not an a_sshole
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Post by churchill1 on Apr 3, 2007 17:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by tommynt on Apr 4, 2007 7:05:05 GMT -5
comments and suggestions thread turned into "who is an asshle thread" ,maybe thats one of biggest problems - if every1 who got calld not a very nice person in this thread is really one - then there is definately to much nutst around - btw i d still own mettalian in 1-1 ren for sure nuts can stink but not play
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Post by longhorn on Apr 4, 2007 13:00:41 GMT -5
To Knupp: @ Longhorn -- I've always tried to been nice to you. I have always always always been f_ucking nice to you. The way you conduct yourself in this thread and the way you attack my clan because you don't agree with us...well you do nothing as an admin. Absolutely nothing. All you do is b*tch because we don't like the games you like. I don't know why your position hasn't been removed. I can see a lot better potential admins than you. Well Knupp- I have always tried to be nice to you too, including singling you out as a good guy in this very thread. I am sorry you feel that way, but you are wrong in that it has anything to do with what I like or don't like. It doesn't. I have 'given up' trying for anything I personally like a long time ago. I mean every single posted suggestion or idea I ever made is followed by a post from member of RaY stating why the idea or suggestion is terrible. I will continue to stand up to tyranny and defend myself and my own opinions. I for one stick by every single statement that my clan-mates have said on these forums. I can't ever remember ONE POST EVER ATTACKING ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL OR CLAN That statement is probably more unsettling than anything else you said or posted. It almost goes to prove my point. When something is wrong its wrong and I will stand up against it whether it was posted by any person -- even a clan mate. *********************** To Gogf: I really wish you would be more involved with the leadership aspects for your clan. I think ladder would be a much better place if you did. I think you are an exemplary example of a good member of the community with both the way you conduct yourself in games, and 'for the most part' on these boards! ************************* To Mookie: I really used to like playing with you, and some of my best game memories are ones with you in it, but somewhere along the line you changed. I think for me, that realization was with the way you treated The Jesus, and how proud you were to run him off ladder, just because you didn't like the way he played. As to your acknowledgment that pseudos suck, I thank you. I am not proposing a witch hunt nor to go back and re-investigate the past. What is done is done. But if you would institute a policy in your own clan, that any member who FROM X DAY FORWARD, creates a multiple ladder account (or does not immediately delete existing ones) will be kicked out of your clan-- That would be a GREAT Positive step for this ladder. As to why I left TX, the clan I helped create, simply ask Willburn from your own clan. He was one of my best friends on this ladder, and I told him I would stick with him when he was torn between joining Illuminati or staying with TX. That was the ONLY promise I ever made with TX, and I honored it 100%. As to why I 'complain' about elitism. Its driving people away from the ladder in droves and worse has a long-term negative effect. Without new players, our ladder community can not thrive. By all means play some RaY vs games, play some RaY vs RaY games, but its detrimental to play this exclusively. Also, it may not just be your clan, but if you could improve the after game comments (BY SOME NOT ALL) such as always blaming #@*!*&^%$* Noobs for every single loss in a game, it would also be very much appreciated. Try just saying GG (and then sulk and stew like the rest of us). Please stop berating the players though to the point they quit ladder over it. ***************** To crypto: I think your comment hurt most of all. You continually bash me for not doing anything about the multiple accounts of RaY, and when I finally (publicly) address the issue you call me 'lame'. Well, I have never 'bashed' you or negatively commented on any member of GOD in these forums and I am not about to start now. So the fact it 'hurt' is the only comment I will make. End of story. **************************** To Rokkit- LOL, dude............................. ***************************** To Ironclad and The Clash. Thanks! ****************************** To the rest of the ladder community. Continue to post your suggestions and ideas and try not to get discouraged when others 'rain of your parade'!
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Post by knupp on Apr 4, 2007 14:27:12 GMT -5
Hm. It's a known fact most of the ladder doesn't like most of the games you like to play Longhorn. Not everybody is going to agree with you. That's just life. The fact that you single RaY out as "tyrannical" because we don't like the games you play is extremely ridiculous in my point of view. Especially since whenever one of us makes a suggestion you reply with posts such as, "let's just have a race to buddhism!" Honestly the reason people are standing up against your ideas is because nobody plays them. And as much as this might hurt, I think Speaker hit the nail on the head. You can continue to stand up for your opinions. And we will continue to stand up for ours. Just remember who the first one to personally attack was. You've been posting your ignorant and mean-spirited posts for a while now. Speaker stood up to you and this is how you reply?
Well if you really believe that then go on ahead believing that. The fact is not one thread has ever been made that said "RaY cheats" like many other clans here. Also we've never had an issue with any other clan in CCC (except this CCC when you were threatening to disqualify us because we were a little late, thanks for the great sportmanship/understanding there btw). So *shrug*, think what you want.
You misunderstand. I'm saying that thus far I will stand-by any post my clan-mates have made on these boards. Why? Because they have never went out of their way to publicly humiliate, harrass, attack, or make a mean spirited post about any other player or clan. That is exactly what you did in this thread. And IMO no member of this community should not be allowed to do that, especially an admin...
Nobody ran TheJesus off of the ladder. I don't know where your information comes from. He withdrew from his name "thejesus" after I had a debate about him with his strategy and said that at some point in time he had to adapt and change. You can't do the exact same strategy every game. It might have worked in Vanilla Civ but it's not going to continue working forever. People like this is why I'll gladly play a RaY vs RaY game before an open teamer. I have absolutely no respect for somebody who ignores teammates suggestions and admitidly doesn't care to get better at the game and would rather do whatever the hell they want, even if it means ruining the game for all of their teammates. This goes back to what Speaker said...
Also Jesus returned on the ladder on a new name a few weeks later and has been playing under that alias ever since. I forget what it is.
Who was ever berated by all of RaY that they quit ladder over it? None that I can remember. As far as you saying RaY vs RaY games are killing the ladder, I seriously think you are mistaken. First of all you have absolutely no backing for this and no proof. IMO threads and posts that attack clans/players continuosly will drive a lot more people from the ladder than a few clan games. By saying "RaY only plays RaY vs RaY games because they are elitist!" really highlights your ignorance. My clanmates can play whatever they want, any ladder members can play whatever they want. The last thing I'd ever do is tell people what to play. And if I do get stuck in a game I don't like so be it. I know we all get bent out of shape and go on tilt every one in a while, but that's no excuse. I'm not going to make the game miserable for everybody else (which is what you tend to do). Or maybe you forgot the game where you and PBB argued all game and the players on your team were so fed up with it they wanted to sub you out?
I agree. Everytime Longhorn doesn't like the settings you like and gets all bent out of shape about it and then personally attacks you and your entire clan, don't let it rain on your parade.
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Post by onesong on Apr 4, 2007 14:51:04 GMT -5
Metallian is the King alright...
...he is the King of all n00bs that there is and that there ever was.
Anyone with half a working brain that dedicates so much time and effort towards Civ can get as good as him if not better.
Nothing to be proud of thought thats for sure.
Although it's ironic that there are those that are just as dedicated e.g. Game Theory, Germainia that still suck at the game and chances are that they always will.
ps. Metallian was never in [KINGZ] even though he claims it, but will never will be. Once a RaY always a GaY! /me giggles Just setting the records straight. ;D
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Post by cryptococcus on Apr 4, 2007 14:57:25 GMT -5
WTF do pseudo's have to do with me agreeing with Rokkit? I've been over the pseudo's sense our first ccc btw longhorn. I really don't care if Wiz had a different name or not every ccc. He's still the wiz spelled anyway. I just agreed with Rokkit because your a depressing individual for about 4 months or so, like I've told you many times. FFS, you left GOD because we slave and farm floodplains. I could see if you disagree with this, but you never even tried it, nor will you try anything different. Please don't respond by saying you play maze map because I'm not referring to game options or maps. You need to cheer the f**k up dude and just have some GOD damn fun. Who cares about the fact that MLL and Metallian want to blame divine intervention (or us)for every loss they have? You still only work 4 days a week, while the rest of us work 5
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Post by Speaker on Apr 4, 2007 15:35:23 GMT -5
Also Jesus returned on the ladder on a new name a few weeks later and has been playing under that alias ever since. I forget what it is. ...I think his name is TheGreatSatan.
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Post by longhorn on Apr 4, 2007 15:36:30 GMT -5
The fact that you single RaY out as "tyrannical" because we don't like the games you play is extremely ridiculous in my point of view. Yes, Knupp, the entire ladder didn't want water associated with modern- my bad. I think Speaker hit the nail on the head. You can continue to stand up for your opinions. Speakers reply was mean spirited which including putting me down as a player and bringing up some 'attempt at humorous' response to a totally unrelated issue about building workers that I made a long time ago in a game. And we will continue to stand up for ours. Jeez, PLEASE have your own opinions instead of group opinions. Just remember who the first one to personally attack was. You've been posting your ignorant and mean-spirited posts for a while now. Speaker stood up to you and this is how you reply? I don't know how you can not see the personal attack in Speakers post. That is what infuriated me to begin with. Also if you think the last 25 turns of a game are irrelevant to the outcome of a game, ah jeez- we agree to disagree again. The fact is not one thread has ever been made that said "RaY cheats" like many other clans here. Also we've never had an issue with any other clan in CCC (except this CCC when you were threatening to disqualify us because we were a little late, thanks for the great sportmanship/understanding there btw). So *shrug*, think what you want. This is a boldfaced lie. I NEVER threatened to disqualify ANYONE in CCC. I said that I WOULD RATHER FORFEIT THAN WAIT for you. You are not being truthfull here at all. I also gladly conceeded durring the event because one of our teammates had connectivity issues. We could have saved so much time by just forfeiting the match (to you) to begin with. You misunderstand. I'm saying that thus far I will stand-by any post my clan-mates have made on these boards. Why? Because they have never went out of their way to publicly humiliate, harrass, attack, or make a mean spirited post about any other player or clan. Here we will agree to disagree. I am not saying my response to Speakers attack was pleasant for you to read, but you seem to have no problem with anything your clan says or does. That is a shame. Look at some of their old posts about tommynt and others. Its just back to rehashing the argument that your own poop don't stink. Well go ahead and rehash this issue if you want. I am done with it. You stand by your group opinions and I stand by my own opinions. And while everone might not like the games I like- stop assuming everyone likes the games you do! All the best Knupp, -lh
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Post by Speaker on Apr 4, 2007 16:03:23 GMT -5
Please point to the personal "attack" in my post Longhorn. Everything I posted was fact. You have not made any effort to improve at Civ in a long time, despite playing tons of games with many of the top players.
Remember Smuckey's courthouse comments? Remember your Japan phase (for the super-impossible to kill Muskets which allowed you to huddle in your cities and not be killed)? You also let tons of units through your land toward the players in the back.
That worker quote may have been made tongue-in-cheek, but the irony was not lost on many of us who routinely send our workers to develop your land and chop your forests.
You make your jokes about being environmentally friendly (saving forests) and about being an accountant (or something) hating being "in the red" (building courthouses and forbidden palace), but do you not realize that these actions are hurting your team and their ability to win? Either you don't realize it, or don't care.
You probably will think I am attacking you here Longhorn. You are a very sensitive guy. But I think you should look in the mirror and at your own play.
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Post by knupp on Apr 4, 2007 17:10:55 GMT -5
What does this have anything to do with games you like??? If you look up that thread I said I was fine with water maps, as long as it wasn't fractal.
"Our opinions" means all of our opinions. Not just a clan opinion. I can see where that would be misleading. Let me rephrase for you to understand better: We will continue to stand up for our (individual) opinions.
I don't know how you can not see the clan attacks in some of the posts that you have posted in the last couple weeks that invoked Speaker's post. Stop playing victim all the time. And I never stated the last 25 turns of a game are irrelevant.
Oh and look at that, you contradict yourself. You want RaY to have individual opinions, and yet you continue to generalize us?
I wasn't myself reading the entire conversation in the lobby. I was being told on ts that you were going to DQ us and when I did get a chance to check the lobby I saw you complaining. If you never did say you were going to DQ us then I apologize. Still why was it such a gigantic deal in the first place?
I have no problem with what Speaker said because he was replying to the several posts that you had again ignorantly made in order to generalize RaY as a bullying, thug, malicious clan. I know for a fact our sh*t can stink at times. Metallian knows he went a little overboard with his post in this thread. But then again so did you, and probably me as well.
I'm not saying everyone like the games I like to play. But that doesn't mean there is a chance in hell I'm going to stop fighting for the games I like in CCC just because you don't like them.
Either way, good day to you Longhorn. Maybe next CCC there is a chance that these threads won't become shlt-flinging contests again.
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Post by Bonsai on Apr 4, 2007 17:48:27 GMT -5
Reading all these recent posts on the forums I am wondering if we should add a new event to the CCC: The 1v1 Insult Duel Rules: - Whoever throws the most devastating insults and accusations at the opponent wins - Turns: 50, no sim moves (pausing would not be an issue either) - Turn Timer: Blazing, gotta think and type quick (wait, maybe pausing would be an issue) - Map: Who gives a fook! So, Inland Sea is ok I guess… If some clans think this should be a team sport, we could also make it a 4v4? The problem with the event is probably that no one would admin that they lost... At least it might take some people's pressure off to post lame insults on the forums without thinking it through.
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Post by charliebrownparker on Apr 4, 2007 18:49:03 GMT -5
Reading all these recent posts on the forums I am wondering if we should add a new event to the CCC: The 1v1 Insult Duel Rules: - Whoever throws the most devastating insults and accusations at the opponent wins - Turns: 50, no sim moves (pausing would not be an issue either) - Turn Timer: Blazing, gotta think and type quick (wait, maybe pausing would be an issue) - Map: Who gives a fook! So, Inland Sea is ok I guess… If some clans think this should be a team sport, we could also make it a 4v4? The problem with the event is probably that no one would admin that they lost... At least it might take some people's pressure off to post lame insults on the forums without thinking it through. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I will represent MDR
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