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Post by Matlowe on Mar 7, 2007 17:40:25 GMT -5
LOL ROFL I agree with grilla. Way too much bitching going on. Let the admins do the job instead of making bs threads about bs. If there was any rule breaking going on admins would be punishing its that simple. random i am actually wiping my eyes from laughter at your stupid and meaningless posts. Its always IF and Buts..
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Post by Random on Mar 7, 2007 17:58:55 GMT -5
As things go I have been an ass to the subject of this post. In fact I think it is sad that I need to justify the reasons I feel that this ladder needs to be reborn. In the begining this ladder was started to take the place of the C3C ladder for those who wanted to play the new game. We forseen at the start that not all of our good player base would follow over and with changes made to the game we would get some new players: so we decided to become an open league. This with it good intentions has become a breeding grounds of everything this ladder once stood up against. I once again state that we need to restart this ladder, but before doing so re-evaluate all the rules. Have a rule that you are guilty until proven innocent. Yes guilty, you have found a way to bend said rule, and failed. All past transgressions should be cleared, and all annomosity a thing of the past. We need all of this in order to once again gain the respect of the community that once respected all decisions that were made. Why do am I going on like this... Well I will only use one person's post to hopfully make my point, well I hope to. Here is the post I will start with: 3 Things 1) Avreee thank you for that post. 2) These reports are symbolic. I went through all this for the mere principality that I will not allow players to break or bend ladder rules at my expense. I could care less about my record or rank. 3) Not that it matters anymore, but at the point of restart I was ahead by 165 points and it was my stupid AI which caused my points to drop PS I didn't make the rules, but I will be damned if a bunch of newbies will bend them to their will. And to the Admin handling this situations, hopefully its still Speaker, The confession speaks for itself. And to everyone else Have a Nice Day 2) These reports are symbolic. I went through all this for the mere principality that I will not allow players to break or bend ladder rules at my expense. I could care less about my record or rank.This was a later post after following: I knew I could beat these guys with a self automated Civ and they broke the rules not me. I dont Give a Flying f**k about morals, put me on your DNP list for all I care. I am here to win NOW GIVE ME MY DAMN REPORTS. Well I was going to go on more but decied to say fuk it, I mean from reading so many of these posts most of you just do not care or are being bribed or pleasuring the filth of the ladder. I can make many more observations about many of the trouser trout we have he in this open league, and I would much rather go back to the elitest private one. I seem to be the only person who cares that this person has stated As long as there isn't a rule against doing something (Especially turning on an option that people know slows down combat) you can't penalize someone in an ex post facto manner for being the first to do it, you can make a new rule and ban it from future use. Now don't get me wrong, if some super cool dude figured out an actual cheat in the game, something that was not intended for by the creators or is in fact a flaw in the software of the game, than this is an exploit and is never allowed regardless of if your the first to discover it. BUT - Combat animations were created to entertain imbeciles and give extra time to newbies, thats why it was created, ask any of the game designers. Willburn was (using an option that every one knew about) and he (used it for the reason that the option was created). Hence, Willburn wins argument, rest you newbs lose "CALL 1800-MR-THEORY, I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU!" Now STFU and stop wasting peoples time. And more insults: N: oobie E: ntity W: hose B: arley able to function as a person so they should just live in a hole and not waste peoples time with there presence. Yes here once again is your great hero of the ladder, give us back Fried, who at least contributed a bit to the good of the community. Or even Tommynt who though is not always the most likable guy but he to has made contributions. But the ass of this post has done nothing... Well at one time he did apply to be a TD and against my better judgement I allowed him to be one.. Guess what, not a single event hosted, in fact it was only done so that he could get some idea for his very own con you all MGT's Cash tourney. Anyway the point of this is that I could make posts like this about many other of our new civers. The point is why should I have to? We should screen our applicants enough so that we do not find ourselves in this rotten state. Again I plea restart all aspects of this ladder and I will be silent. Those that are truly great will prove that they are. I should have made this a longer post but some of the best threads have been deleted...
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Post by Matlowe on Mar 7, 2007 18:30:06 GMT -5
LOL what is with mgt then? why pick out one person? There are many older players and elite ladders that cheat and bend rule in this game. Sure a new ladder would be great with new sets of rules and punishments for those who break or bend them.
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Post by Bantams on Mar 7, 2007 19:21:11 GMT -5
I agree with Grilla BTW blue youre avator is broken
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Post by Necrominousss on Mar 8, 2007 1:11:47 GMT -5
If you want to beat MGT and make him look like less then a player deserving #1 status, just enter his $$$ money tourneys and give him an ass whoppin, when it really counts, for the cheese. There's anohter one coming up soon, I think.
EDIT: March 24. Look under non-ladder events to sign up.
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Post by 9iron9 on Mar 8, 2007 6:30:56 GMT -5
if i could cheat i would... hell yeah. they say cheaters never prosper..... bollocks, its only ppl who didnt think of it 1st that say that. if i was an animal i would be a cheetah and eat cheeto's crisps. its only cos i sucks at computers that i havent hax0red a super robot, strength 100 with 20 moves. whatch out. he will come one day
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Post by willburn on Mar 8, 2007 8:18:56 GMT -5
Random why are you draging me into a discussion about mgt? Ive allready posted and appologized about the one use of combat animation after i came back to play (from a long pause). Even if my arguments where valid I think the most important is for everyone to feel its a fair game. And frankly I dont need combat animations on to win my games...
And ive definitivly tried to contribute to the ladder, when I tought i was gonna quit the ladder for good I released all my toughts on the future game. And ive commented on many other things too and tried to be active in chats, on the firaxis beta testing im allways trying to give the mp view and support you guys (not a easy job as there are way more sp testers than mp testers.) And finaly every none report i see I file in and hunt down the guy, not because its any bloody fun to get a report from a rank 10000 person but because its the right thing to do to hold the ladder together.
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Post by Bantams on Mar 8, 2007 8:32:02 GMT -5
Random why are you draging me into a discussion about mgt? Ive allready posted and appologized about the one use of combat animation after i came back to play (from a long pause). Even if my arguments where valid I think the most important is for everyone to feel its a fair game. And frankly I dont need combat animations on to win my games... And ive definitivly tried to contribute to the ladder, when I tought i was gonna quit the ladder for good I released all my toughts on the future game. And ive commented on many other things too and tried to be active in chats, on the firaxis beta testing im allways trying to give the mp view and support you guys (not a easy job as there are way more sp testers than mp testers.) And finaly every none report i see I file in and hunt down the guy, not because its any bloody fun to get a report from a rank 10000 person but because its the right thing to do to hold the ladder together. He was quoting Other peoples posts he wasnt intending to bring you into the arguement Maybe one good Idea would be up the age Limit for Joining the Ladder to 18 at least or even 21 that would get rid of quite a few Idiots round here
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Post by DustyDragoon on Mar 8, 2007 8:59:19 GMT -5
As things go I have been an ass to the subject of this post. In fact I think it is sad that I need to justify the reasons I feel that this ladder needs to be reborn. In the begining this ladder was started to take the place of the C3C ladder for those who wanted to play the new game. We forseen at the start that not all of our good player base would follow over and with changes made to the game we would get some new players: so we decided to become an open league. This with it good intentions has become a breeding grounds of everything this ladder once stood up against. I once again state that we need to restart this ladder, but before doing so re-evaluate all the rules. Have a rule that you are guilty until proven innocent. Yes guilty, you have found a way to bend said rule, and failed. All past transgressions should be cleared, and all annomosity a thing of the past. We need all of this in order to once again gain the respect of the community that once respected all decisions that were made. Why do am I going on like this... Well I will only use one person's post to hopfully make my point, well I hope to. Here is the post I will start with: 3 Things 1) Avreee thank you for that post. 2) These reports are symbolic. I went through all this for the mere principality that I will not allow players to break or bend ladder rules at my expense. I could care less about my record or rank. 3) Not that it matters anymore, but at the point of restart I was ahead by 165 points and it was my stupid AI which caused my points to drop PS I didn't make the rules, but I will be damned if a bunch of newbies will bend them to their will. And to the Admin handling this situations, hopefully its still Speaker, The confession speaks for itself. And to everyone else Have a Nice Day 2) These reports are symbolic. I went through all this for the mere principality that I will not allow players to break or bend ladder rules at my expense. I could care less about my record or rank.This was a later post after following: I knew I could beat these guys with a self automated Civ and they broke the rules not me. I dont Give a Flying f**k about morals, put me on your DNP list for all I care. I am here to win NOW GIVE ME MY DAMN REPORTS. Well I was going to go on more but decied to say fuk it, I mean from reading so many of these posts most of you just do not care or are being bribed or pleasuring the filth of the ladder. I can make many more observations about many of the trouser trout we have he in this open league, and I would much rather go back to the elitest private one. I seem to be the only person who cares that this person has stated As long as there isn't a rule against doing something (Especially turning on an option that people know slows down combat) you can't penalize someone in an ex post facto manner for being the first to do it, you can make a new rule and ban it from future use. Now don't get me wrong, if some super cool dude figured out an actual cheat in the game, something that was not intended for by the creators or is in fact a flaw in the software of the game, than this is an exploit and is never allowed regardless of if your the first to discover it. BUT - Combat animations were created to entertain imbeciles and give extra time to newbies, thats why it was created, ask any of the game designers. Willburn was (using an option that every one knew about) and he (used it for the reason that the option was created). Hence, Willburn wins argument, rest you newbs lose "CALL 1800-MR-THEORY, I WILL FIGHT FOR YOU!" Now STFU and stop wasting peoples time. And more insults: N: oobie E: ntity W: hose B: arley able to function as a person so they should just live in a hole and not waste peoples time with there presence. Yes here once again is your great hero of the ladder, give us back Fried, who at least contributed a bit to the good of the community. Or even Tommynt who though is not always the most likable guy but he to has made contributions. But the ass of this post has done nothing... Well at one time he did apply to be a TD and against my better judgement I allowed him to be one.. Guess what, not a single event hosted, in fact it was only done so that he could get some idea for his very own con you all MGT's Cash tourney. Anyway the point of this is that I could make posts like this about many other of our new civers. The point is why should I have to? We should screen our applicants enough so that we do not find ourselves in this rotten state. Again I plea restart all aspects of this ladder and I will be silent. Those that are truly great will prove that they are. I should have made this a longer post but some of the best threads have been deleted... I agree with ya Random if my say matters
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Post by tommynt on Mar 8, 2007 9:47:47 GMT -5
Or even Tommynt who though is not always the most likable guy but he to has made contributions
yippeeee, eh I gotta say that random got some points
here are way too many people trying to cheat or at least twist rules like they want em to be. But glorifieing old days is a joke, for real last year of civ3 was a future only contest. At least 1/2 of these games have been scraped and at least half of these (just my opinion - cant prove) have been scraped cause some1 in game wanted them to be scraped cause of bad land or other things. Not really a good show of fair play.
quote matlowe: There are many older players and elite ladders that cheat and bend rule in this game.
this is exactly the thinking which ll cause problems - others do bullnuts so i do it aswell.
Oh well it s in big parts really fault of admins that some things go wrong and u dont have to wonder about if u see guys like speaker being admin while others as warningU2 have left (for obvious reasons)
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Post by Levi on Mar 8, 2007 10:13:15 GMT -5
You guys are lucky I am not an admin on this ladder because I would throw everyone in the box for at least a month. On a more serious note: MGT’s Ca$h Cla$$ic #4 is being held on March 24th at 12:00PM (Noon) EST (17:00GMT) $100+trophy civ4players.proboards44.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=nonladder&thread=1173030885&page=1 This is not a ladder tournament. Don't know why everyone whines about MGT being #1 when none of the good players even try to compete with him. The guy puts up the money for a cash prize and a trophy, and still no one challenges him. I am calling you out ya big chickens. Go see the wizard, maybe he can give you courage.
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Post by willburn on Mar 8, 2007 12:40:00 GMT -5
He was quoting Other peoples posts he wasnt intending to bring you into the arguement Maybe one good Idea would be up the age Limit for Joining the Ladder to 18 at least or even 21 that would get rid of quite a few Idiots round here I know what he did, but the effect was quoting me again...he had no reason to quote that part.. Im pretty sure im not an idiot either (A grades) or for that matter under 21 (im 24)
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Post by Tony on Mar 8, 2007 16:53:14 GMT -5
i personally dont see what the problem with the ladder is, it seems to be clocking up LOADS of reports everyday, generally speaking i would say it is well managed!
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Post by 9iron9 on Mar 9, 2007 0:27:15 GMT -5
if we all cheat together i could get to number one and could start writing my thankyou speech.
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Post by rokkitlauncher on Mar 9, 2007 15:59:18 GMT -5
u dont have to wonder about if u see guys like speaker being admin if you could stop taking unnecessary hits at speaker that would be great we get it, you don't like him please find another way to get your jollies off in the morning
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Post by Random on Mar 9, 2007 20:37:52 GMT -5
You guys are lucky I am not an admin on this ladder because I would throw everyone in the box for at least a month. On a more serious note: MGT’s Ca$h Cla$$ic #4 is being held on March 24th at 12:00PM (Noon) EST (17:00GMT) $100+trophy civ4players.proboards44.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=nonladder&thread=1173030885&page=1 This is not a ladder tournament. Don't know why everyone whines about MGT being #1 when none of the good players even try to compete with him. The guy puts up the money for a cash prize and a trophy, and still no one challenges him. I am calling you out ya big chickens. Go see the wizard, maybe he can give you courage. I would appreciate not having my thread hijacked with this bribery sh1t. But I can see that you have chosen a side, to bad it is the incorrect one...
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Post by deviousdevil on Mar 9, 2007 23:09:31 GMT -5
Isn't it just abit daft Levi and Co to have a no.1 who has been beaten by everyone and their dog recently?
With the obvious exception of Civerdan.
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Post by Necrominousss on Mar 10, 2007 3:44:21 GMT -5
Sure, MGT is gay if he is actively trying to stay rank 1 by any means necessary for as long as possible. But, for the record I have no opinion on it, for I haven't been paying attention, just saying if he is. I guess that's the advantage of not caring that much about it.
Anyway, would you rather be rank 1 or have a hundred extra dollars to spend. Beat MGT and others, probably me in there, for the cheese and quit the bellyaching.
BTW random you're one to talk. You quit both pitboss games I was in with you. What a bad sport, and did you file alls those reports for each benchmark? I have about zero respect for you after that.
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Post by deviousdevil on Mar 10, 2007 13:20:55 GMT -5
Sure, MGT is gay if he is actively trying to stay rank 1 by any means necessary for as long as possible. But, for the record I have no opinion on it, for I haven't been paying attention, just saying if he is. I guess that's the advantage of not caring that much about it. Anyway, would you rather be rank 1 or have a hundred extra dollars to spend. Beat MGT and others, probably me in there, for the cheese and quit the bellyaching. BTW random you're one to talk. You quit both pitboss games I was in with you. What a bad sport, and did you file alls those reports for each benchmark? I have about zero respect for you after that. I just thing if anyone beats the no.1 player 1vs1 (like me) they should be the new no.1
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Post by Necrominousss on Mar 10, 2007 18:32:49 GMT -5
DeviousDevil I now knight you DeviousDevil#1 for exemplary Civving, going beyond the call of duty, and beating MGT.
Be there March 24 and do it again and take home the bounty after presenting the head of MGT on a silver platter, for all to see.
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