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Post by deyreepher on Apr 28, 2006 14:35:23 GMT -5
I would have posted this in the Reporting Thread, but it seems to be gone.
My question is...I know some players will report their losses all at once after they've finished playing for the day. I am fine with that, as sometimes players need to rush into another game after the next. However, are players supposed to report in the order of the games played or does it not even matter?
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Post by tommynt on Apr 28, 2006 14:48:12 GMT -5
Every1 should report before doing new game - right after game usually - only in emergency within 24 hours - if u can start new game u got no emergency.
report in order of ranks of players and report in order of games for sure if u did more games - at least if it is important for ranks - if no1 cares on reporting order no1 cares ..
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Post by whiplash on Apr 28, 2006 14:51:32 GMT -5
It can matter significantly in player ranking, especially if a highly ranked player is making the reports. There really are few valid excuses for not reporting immediatly. Highly ranked players should especially feel an obligation to do so.
If #1 loses to #20 the winning player should achieve rank #10. But if #1 waits 24 hours to report the winning player may slide to rank #32 during that time and only climb to rank #16 when the report finally comes.
The sequence of the reports can affect the ranks as well. Highly ranked players should report in sequence to the higher ranked winners.
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Post by deyreepher on Apr 28, 2006 14:59:43 GMT -5
Can I get a ladder admin clarification on this?
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Post by whiplash on Apr 28, 2006 18:42:27 GMT -5
You don't trust my answer?
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 28, 2006 23:39:10 GMT -5
You don't trust my answer? Whiplash is correct, you must report losses in the order of there current rank, ergo to the highest rank first. This normally is not a issue but can become very important when in the top 25 or so. It's also very important to report losses right away when waiting even 24 hrs will effect the rank of the player involved. CS
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Post by zerza on Apr 29, 2006 9:00:45 GMT -5
You don't trust my answer? Whiplash is correct, you must report losses in the order of there current rank, ergo to the highest rank first. This normally is not a issue but can become very important when in the top 25 or so. It's also very important to report losses right away when waiting even 24 hrs will effect the rank of the player involved. CS This is a pain to check ranks of everyone before reporting. I've always just reported in order of highest score.
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Post by Necrominousss on Apr 29, 2006 14:24:47 GMT -5
I also report in order of high score order in cton games or I report simplest names first if I'm in a grouchy mood or if someone kills me I might report them first. I'm not going to look up every rank to decide report lose order.
In team games I have a good idea of everyones rank and report accordingly.
As long as one reports immediately, that's the key. There's no reason reporting can not be accomplished in the next game staging area.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 29, 2006 15:18:47 GMT -5
As long as it's done before you report the next game. For most people playing games in the top 25 they already know everyones rank, so reporting properly is not a hardship.
CS
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Post by deyreepher on Apr 30, 2006 17:22:16 GMT -5
Ahh good stuff...thanks for the clarification.
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Post by Avogadro on May 9, 2006 14:13:44 GMT -5
Cant go by top score watch.
#1 reports to player rank #3 who now becomes....#2 #1 then reports to players who was rank #2 but is now #3 thus making him #2 again.
So Number one keeps his title and the other two get nothing for their win. Therefore it is #1 reports to #2 making him #1 then #2 to #3 etc.
Top 6 rank in a cton and champ is first to die ....all move up a spot and champ plummets to 6th spot.
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Post by zerza on May 9, 2006 21:37:33 GMT -5
Cant go by top score watch. #1 reports to player rank #3 who now becomes....#2 #1 then reports to players who was rank #2 but is now #3 thus making him #2 again. So Number one keeps his title and the other two get nothing for their win. Therefore it is #1 reports to #2 making him #1 then #2 to #3 etc. Top 6 rank in a cton and champ is first to die ....all move up a spot and champ plummets to 6th spot. Dont care, I still report by top score. Rules are rules, but hey, I report to the most deserving first.
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Post by Canucksoldier on May 9, 2006 23:01:44 GMT -5
Cant go by top score watch. #1 reports to player rank #3 who now becomes....#2 #1 then reports to players who was rank #2 but is now #3 thus making him #2 again. So Number one keeps his title and the other two get nothing for their win. Therefore it is #1 reports to #2 making him #1 then #2 to #3 etc. Top 6 rank in a cton and champ is first to die ....all move up a spot and champ plummets to 6th spot. Dont care, I still report by top score. Rules are rules, but hey, I report to the most deserving first. Well that may be your opinion Zerza, but your only making more work for us admins as we will have to rearrange the rankings if/when it is a issue, so you could just do it right the first time as save me the problems. CS
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Post by zerza on May 9, 2006 23:09:14 GMT -5
I know CS, but its just so much easier to report based on score then checking peoples ranks Gotta say, noone cares. This should be as easy as possible. Remember, we are all to busy testing civ for firaxis to bother with checking ranks LOL
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Post by GERMANIA on May 10, 2006 10:46:09 GMT -5
You don't trust my answer? Whiplash is correct, you must report losses in the order of there current rank, ergo to the highest rank first. This normally is not a issue but can become very important when in the top 25 or so. It's also very important to report losses right away when waiting even 24 hrs will effect the rank of the player involved. CS Well thats not right CS the big problems are with players in top 10 and if rank 1 lose to rank 3 4 5 6, so would he report to se 3 first and then 4 Mr 3 would lose his report at the same moment when 4 get his report witch cant be, it has to be that rank 3 gets to 2 rank 4 to 3, 5to 4 and 6 to 5every thing else would be BS and i allready when i was rank 3 that my rank was worser after i beat rank 1, but to manage that right isn't really easy, only help are the admins... Avo is right, didnt saw your post. ..
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Post by whiplash on May 10, 2006 11:17:01 GMT -5
I think the only time it doesn't work right is the 1/3/4 combination. Other times report to highest first works best.
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Post by deyreepher on May 24, 2006 4:36:46 GMT -5
Ok...another addenum to this post.
What is the consensus on Gold ladder players resetting their stats before reporting?
I played a game with a Gold member today who reset his account right before reporting. However, just 10 min before that game started, I had been involved in a match with that player where I reported a loss to him and he was not unranked. Is this a kosher practice, there seems to be no clarification on this in the ladder rules.
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Post by everybodysdarling on May 24, 2006 7:06:55 GMT -5
Cant go by top score watch. #1 reports to player rank #3 who now becomes....#2 #1 then reports to players who was rank #2 but is now #3 thus making him #2 again. So Number one keeps his title and the other two get nothing for their win. Therefore it is #1 reports to #2 making him #1 then #2 to #3 etc. Top 6 rank in a cton and champ is first to die ....all move up a spot and champ plummets to 6th spot. It's exactly what happend to me few times. Last time in yesterdays teamer between me (previous rank 3) and poly (previous rank 2). He reported Ellestar first (previous rank 5) and so i became temporarily 4th, then after polys report 3rd again. But as MUD clan mates and friends we clarified this situation by another report from poly to me. Not best solution but fast and effective. Ladder admins are never in the lobby when you need them.
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Post by churchill1 on May 24, 2006 12:15:08 GMT -5
yeah i've noticed this too deyreepher. once somebody did it as a bit of an up yours. "you might have won but your getting a report from an unranked player." there are two or three players who constantly reset their stats and i have no idea why.
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Post by Canucksoldier on May 24, 2006 15:49:52 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the ability to reset your stats is something they have paid for by being a gold cases member, however, resetting your stats in a premeditated fashion to remove the honest rank jump by the winner of the match, runs against the good sportmanship rules of the ladder. I'll discuss this with the admin team so that we can alter the rules to make our opinion on this practise even more clear, but feel free to email any admin, with the details, if this happens to you in the future as it is not a practise we want to encourage.
CS
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