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Post by thegreatsatan on Jun 5, 2007 18:16:13 GMT -5
Russia is nukin up. Now Putin is tellin Bush that he better not build a missle shield in Europe or he'll retalate. Looks to me like Russia is getting ready for some action. This does not suprize me. However I'm shocked because for once I agree with a communist dictator. Why should America help Eurpoe. Europe hates America. I think the last place I'de build an American missle defence is in europe. Mr. Putin I think I speak for all Americans when I say "you can have it." Mr. Bush, how bout instead of building a missle defence in Europe, build another one in America. That way we'll have an extra defence system incase the other 6 fail. Europe is a paper tiger, errr well, paper house cat thats kinda mean. (europe let me pet her) Nothing there can defend against a modern tactical strike. With any luck the european people will demand all US forces out of thier countries but I won't get my hopes up.
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Post by nicoya1 on Jun 5, 2007 23:22:56 GMT -5
well it kinda of good to see an former super power trying to regain some of its power. the US has gotten to powerful. it acts if it can just do whatever it want. wish other big nations like china take a more agg stance toward US policies
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Post by DrShot on Jun 6, 2007 1:11:35 GMT -5
I have not seen the actualy statements Putin has made as of late. I think I understand his motivatioon though.
Putin has announced, not too recently, that he will step down for the upcomming elections. This power move he makes now not only strengthens his party yet also his credibility and legacy. Will he actually step down, we will see. Are there behind the scene activities going on that provoke his firey stance, well as a old KGB guy (as I understand it) I am sure there is...
Very interesting how the US is the worlds 'whipping boy' yet more times than not when there is flood or fire ( Hell or high water is you would), guess what, americia is called to the rescue.
More to follow, from Putin and in this thread, I am sure of it!
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jun 6, 2007 11:36:24 GMT -5
You're right nic. Russia can totally even out the balance of power if they take europe. I can't wait to watch the comming war on TV. The euro metro sexuals VS hardend Russian warriors. Maybe a few years in a soviot labor camp will change u euros from scavangers seeking hand outs into men. This change might take decades. Europe is as defenceless as its ever been in its history. Its a crual world, kiss europe good bye.
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Post by grilla on Jun 15, 2007 21:32:01 GMT -5
Ah geez, just give Devious Devil a couple of paratrooper divisions and he'll crack some heads together and straighten them out.
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Post by toratoratora on Jun 16, 2007 0:26:41 GMT -5
Ah geez, just give Devious Devil a couple of paratrooper divisions and he'll crack some heads together and straighten them out. ;D ;D Now thats Funny!
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Post by whiplash on Jun 16, 2007 11:04:13 GMT -5
Maybe the US won't bale out Europe for the third time.
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Post by zzZhenon on Jun 18, 2007 0:24:58 GMT -5
i imagine the "missile shield" over europe can do alot more than advertised... how would we feel if russia put a "missile shield" over cuba, hehe
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jun 18, 2007 0:58:41 GMT -5
i agree z. If those euro's really wanted a "missle shield" america should make um buy it. Its so stupid to just give stuff to people that hate you. It maybe american missles trying to hit europe one day and that dam shield shootin them down. I'm gunna join all the femonist libs and tell mr bush to "PULL OUT NOW"
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Post by whiplash on Jun 18, 2007 7:46:35 GMT -5
Femanist libs usually don't say PULL OUT because there is nothing in there to begin with.
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 20, 2007 2:52:36 GMT -5
I have not seen the actualy statements Putin has made as of late. I think I understand his motivatioon though. Putin has announced, not too recently, that he will step down for the upcomming elections. This power move he makes now not only strengthens his party yet also his credibility and legacy. Will he actually step down, we will see. Are there behind the scene activities going on that provoke his firey stance, well as a old KGB guy (as I understand it) I am sure there is... Actually, you have a wrong impression about Putin. Putin is not one of the "hawks" (using USA terms). If he was one of the hawks, you should have seen a much worse responses to all USA provocations in the last 15 years. Note that even a year ago only 5% of the russian citizens thought that USA is a friend of Russia, AFAIK it's the lowest number so far since the collapse of USSR and more likely than not it dropped once again in this year (looking how things are going on between USA and Russian Federation). So, Putin policy is softer than a public opinion as well.
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Post by whiplash on Jun 20, 2007 6:41:54 GMT -5
Maybe relations would improve if Russia would not help Iran with their nuclear program.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jun 20, 2007 12:41:52 GMT -5
Russia has been blaming America for thier problems since America has been around to blame. The KGB have become master propaganda artist telling the people, "well. things would all be good if it wasnt for the USA. cough cough oh ya and the jews too" Look, russians, I'll tell you why your life sucks. YOU LIVE IN RUSSIA! Move. Russia is a cold, misserable place. Thier are many mid-east countrys you can attack again. What you russians need is a good tan. Just like superman, we humans need sunlight.
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 21, 2007 6:31:18 GMT -5
Maybe relations would improve if Russia would not help Iran with their nuclear program. More lies please, you surely don't lie enough in media. Maybe these lies are good enough for internal consumption but don't try that bullsh it elsewhere. It's a nuclear power station, all within international laws and under international supervision. Russia has been blaming America for thier problems since America has been around to blame. It's an interesting statement. I would like to know who exactly blamed USA and for which exact problems? The KGB have become master propaganda artist telling the people, "well. things would all be good if it wasnt for the USA. cough cough oh ya and the jews too" Well, there is no KGB around here last time i checked so i think you should awaken from a 16-year sleep. You know, life goes on.
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Post by whiplash on Jun 21, 2007 7:06:43 GMT -5
Maybe relations would improve if Russia would not help Iran with their nuclear program. Well, either my country is lieing to me or your country is lieing to you. Just who is doing the supervision? And why would a country with so much oil need a nuclear power plant?
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 21, 2007 8:59:09 GMT -5
Well, either my country is lieing to me or your country is lieing to you. Just who is doing the supervision? And why would a country with so much oil need a nuclear power plant? Are you sure that it's your country who's lying? Probably it's just a press. I doubt any government officials said that this reactor is not under a full supervision by IAEA or that it's illegal to build it. As about second, at the very least they'll have their own specialists who worked on their own big nuclear reactor. Probably they thought that there is a chance that they'll be able to extract plutonium from worked fuel (but it's not possible in the current situation). It can also save them some money. After all, they do have oil but oil isn't free. They can sell that oil for it's price on an international market. AFAIK noone burns a high-quality oil in power plants. But i doubt it was a primary reason.
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Post by knupp on Jun 21, 2007 13:55:42 GMT -5
I say America needs to stop spending trillions of dollars helping out every other nation in the world. We need to return back to the policy of isolationism. If the rest of the world wants to kill eachother they can go ahead. We should be worried about helping our own people. Free health care for all Americans!!!
just my opinion
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Post by nicoya1 on Jun 21, 2007 22:43:40 GMT -5
well isolationism is a bit extreme, but a definitely cut back on trying to convert other nations government to work like are is necessary. thats the main problem with are government.
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Post by whiplash on Jun 22, 2007 10:26:11 GMT -5
It can also save them some money. After all, they do have oil but oil isn't free. They can sell that oil for it's price on an international market. AFAIK noone burns a high-quality oil in power plants. But i doubt it was a primary reason. www.power-technology.com/projects/shoaiba/
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 25, 2007 2:46:37 GMT -5
It can also save them some money. After all, they do have oil but oil isn't free. They can sell that oil for it's price on an international market. AFAIK noone burns a high-quality oil in power plants. But i doubt it was a primary reason. www.power-technology.com/projects/shoaiba/Translation specifically for ret ards: noone who needs to buy oil. And another clarification just in case you'll find one more stupid link - in significant quantities. Now, when oil prices skyrocketed, it's even less efficient than before. So don't insult me with these links like they prove something. If you want to argue the case, then do so with an intelligent arguments.
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