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Post by Matlowe on Sept 23, 2007 3:33:51 GMT -5
lol @ 9iron ;D
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Post by 9iron9 on Sept 24, 2007 2:20:39 GMT -5
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ezy
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Post by ezy on Sept 27, 2007 20:11:21 GMT -5
blah blah blah. oh yeah he also had 1 archer in all his cities and only 1 worker building temple of artemis as well. gg
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Post by civerdan on Sept 27, 2007 21:34:39 GMT -5
Things that really irritate me in an ancient teamer:
1. Beginning by building any of the following first thing: Monument, Barracks (only if your Aztec in the back could I let this pass), Settler
2. Working a lake tile at start. I know the game sets you to work this because it likes to favor gold over hammers. Learn basic Micromanagement! Don't waste hammers when your city is about to grow, etc.
3. Making a monument when teamate is building Stonehenge. You are just throwing hammers away.
4. Not moving to a plain hill when you know where ur food is.
5. Growing to size 4 while building units because you are being choked. Use Slavery to avoid working useless tiles at a minimum (you should really use it much more than this).
6. Building useless wonders like ToA when not in a point race. Same for pyramids unless you have a indu w/stone and good production and even then its not really worth it most times since you need monarchy for feudalism anyways. Better to make 5-10 more units.
7. Attacking scout on forest hill with warrior, especially in a close quarters game. Been through this enough...
8. Defending against qeuchas with archers.
9. Going into full unit production mode without a barracks.
10. Still having unchopped woods in your 9 tiles cap radius by Construction.
11. Making Jaguars without a barracks. Period.
12. Farming you marble or mining your sheep.
13. Running scientists or any other specialist other than artists in your city.
14. Using your Great Prophet on a shrine. Using Great Spy for Intelligence Angency. Never get the benefits of this in time in a 120 turn teamer.
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bev
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Post by bev on Sept 28, 2007 2:39:24 GMT -5
I was playing a 5v5 ren teamer non ladder game today. Mostly ladder players but also some others. Suddenly for no apparent reason a player on their side dies without being attacked.
His teammate had asked him to gift 2 cities and it was 2 city elim. lol.
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Post by atlas on Sept 28, 2007 17:25:51 GMT -5
Great List Civerdan You are really hitting on some of the most egregious errors that are seen in teamers. Let me comment on a few things 1. Beginning by building any of the following first thing: Monument, Barracks (only if your Aztec in the back could I let this pass), Settler This should be a scrap and rehost w/o the noob. We (as a community) just need to recognize that players like this will ruin everyone's game. There is no skill in winning a teamer that was 4 v 3 because the other team got saddled with a total idiot 2. Working a lake tile at start. I know the game sets you to work this because it likes to favor gold over hammers. Learn basic Micromanagement! Don't waste hammers when your city is about to grow, etc. unacceptable 3. Making a monument when teamate is building Stonehenge. You are just throwing hammers away. This happens pretty often, I find this is normally the result of a lack of communication and a lack of looking at what your teammates are doing more than total noobness 7. Attacking scout on forest hill with warrior, especially in a close quarters game. Been through this enough... So many new and ok players don't realize the penalty of losing their starting/first warrior. Losing your starting/first warrior almost always results in some form of choke. 14. Using your Great Prophet on a shrine. Using Great Spy for Intelligence Angency. Never get the benefits of this in time in a 120 turn teamer. GP usage needs to be discussed as a team, period! I want to talk about these two in more detail- 4. Not moving to a plain hill when you know where ur food is. This is a terrible mistake, unquestionably it is worth the one turn move. With that said I the converse is true too, I have seen some serious noob action with some players moving away from food just to get a plains hill. The result is that they have sacrificed food for a 2 hammer cap. It is always better to have a food resource than a 2 hammer cap and is not worth the risk of moving into the "black" just to get it. 6. Building useless wonders like ToA when not in a point race ... Better to make 5-10 more units. This is terribly frustrating. I don't know how many fights I had with noobs online who were dead set on building the Great Wall (in Warlords that is). The other part of this is the terrible noob tendency to "collect" religions. Going for a second or 3rd religion without key techs like Pottery is a terribly unsound strategy
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Post by tamijo on Sept 29, 2007 3:19:48 GMT -5
I was playing a 5v5 ren teamer non ladder game today. Mostly ladder players but also some others. Suddenly for no apparent reason a player on their side dies without being attacked. His teammate had asked him to gift 2 cities and it was 2 city elim. lol. That IS fun
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Post by terdaz on Oct 1, 2007 6:28:49 GMT -5
I was playing a 5v5 ren teamer non ladder game today. Mostly ladder players but also some others. Suddenly for no apparent reason a player on their side dies without being attacked. His teammate had asked him to gift 2 cities and it was 2 city elim. lol. ;D ;D ;D
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nicoya1
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Post by nicoya1 on Oct 1, 2007 20:21:40 GMT -5
thats funny would have never thought that could happen. maybe its a bug. unless he he only had 2 cites at which point i dont understand why u would gift ur only 2 citties
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Post by geforced on Oct 2, 2007 18:12:02 GMT -5
you cant gift a single city in elim games.
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Post by Tony on Oct 2, 2007 18:47:21 GMT -5
you cant gift a single city in elim games. LOL you are right, i have no clue why people make stuff up! If you dont have a "noob story" to post, then dont just make one up to fit in. Bev this is something i would have expected from bantams, not you. tut tut.
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ezy
Settler
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Post by ezy on Oct 3, 2007 1:14:02 GMT -5
i was in that game where he gifted cities. it happened. he was the 3rd man back in 5v5 game and next thing you know "the russian civilization has been destroyed" you cant gift a single city in elim games. LOL you are right, i have no clue why people make stuff up! If you dont have a "noob story" to post, then dont just make one up to fit in. Bev this is something i would have expected from bantams, not you. tut tut.
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Post by MMV on Oct 3, 2007 17:36:50 GMT -5
you can NEVER gift your capital - even when you've lost your original capital, another city becomes the capital - and you can't gift that either.
(ahhhhhhhhhhh for the good ole'days of C3 where you could just kill your own noob teamate, lol)
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ezy
Settler
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Post by ezy on Oct 11, 2007 22:53:46 GMT -5
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Post by Bantams on Oct 12, 2007 6:45:52 GMT -5
you can NEVER gift your capital - even when you've lost your original capital, another city becomes the capital - and you can't gift that either. (ahhhhhhhhhhh for the good ole'days of C3 where you could just kill your own noob teamate, lol) true but if its 2 city elim and you have 3 cities including cap its still game over if you gift 2 lol
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Post by Lestat on Oct 12, 2007 9:24:34 GMT -5
U sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo smart Spamtams
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Post by Bantams on Oct 14, 2007 3:17:47 GMT -5
;D GG France
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marr
Worker
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Post by marr on Oct 14, 2007 3:52:39 GMT -5
lol Ezy, Ind? Why the hermitage mate? Wheres his workers? How come his iron wasn't hooked? Funny screen shot:P
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Post by lporiginalg on Oct 14, 2007 15:37:43 GMT -5
what bugs me about these screenies:
1.single unit graphic's NOT chosen 2.effects/animations NOT dissabled 3.graphic quality not low
I dont realy care how good your graphics card is or how much ram u got this is MP so turn them nutss off and down to minimum and life will be less laggy for all of us.
lp
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Post by Bantams on Oct 15, 2007 5:54:59 GMT -5
what bugs me about these screenies: 1.single unit graphic's NOT chosen 2.effects/animations NOT dissabled 3.graphic quality not low I dont realy care how good your graphics card is or how much ram u got this is MP so turn them nutss off and down to minimum and life will be less laggy for all of us. lp Hey WTF we dont all still play on a 386 I have everything at Full Capacity No Problems But turn unit and Battle animations Off Yes thats the number 1 rule number 2 being dont die to a warrio
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