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Post by CoitusMaximus on Aug 25, 2007 12:42:32 GMT -5
Does chopping/slaving work on research/wealth? I tend to think so. If so that might be a good way to boost either/both. Thank you.
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Post by redphoenix on Aug 26, 2007 7:30:55 GMT -5
Does chopping/slaving work on research/wealth? I tend to think so. If so that might be a good way to boost either/both. Thank you. no
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Post by xiaojuzi on Aug 26, 2007 8:36:36 GMT -5
use some article written by a sp-player for referrence chop/slave for extra goldas an admin of civclub,ive guided someone to find a practical way to exploit this trick the examplehope u guys could also work this way out welcome to civclub,one of the best civforums in the world.
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Post by zzZhenon on Aug 31, 2007 15:56:29 GMT -5
Does chopping/slaving work on research/wealth? I tend to think so. If so that might be a good way to boost either/both. Thank you. No but it used to in vanilla. If you build something and have overflow hammers then choose to build wealth, culture, or research it puts the overflow in "stasis" and they go toward whatever you build next. It can actually be a pretty cool way to save chops and slave overflow for later use i.e. like after researching a tech that gives you a new building.
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Post by redphoenix on Aug 31, 2007 23:45:48 GMT -5
Does chopping/slaving work on research/wealth? I tend to think so. If so that might be a good way to boost either/both. Thank you. No but it used to in vanilla. If you build something and have overflow hammers then choose to build wealth, culture, or research it puts the overflow in "stasis" and they go toward whatever you build next. It can actually be a pretty cool way to save chops and slave overflow for later use i.e. like after researching a tech that gives you a new building. only way to chop gold is to chop wonders and have someone else build them.
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Post by ot4e on Sept 1, 2007 1:59:41 GMT -5
only way to chop gold is to chop wonders and have someone else build them. No, you can chop and slave gold. Overflow is still going to your cash. So if you have 9/10 warrior and slave it and chop something you literaturelly chop&slave gold.
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Post by tamijo on Sept 1, 2007 5:47:06 GMT -5
Well been wondering this myself, if y set on sience (in city build) what happens to the chop, no effect ?
Cant slave i know that
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Post by ot4e on Sept 1, 2007 11:05:59 GMT -5
Well been wondering this myself, if y set on sience (in city build) what happens to the chop, no effect ? Cant slave i know that The chop will be saved to the next production. And this is the way you can store chops, chop some forests one by one and then switch to the Great Library or something unreachable before.
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Post by redphoenix on Sept 1, 2007 17:07:20 GMT -5
only way to chop gold is to chop wonders and have someone else build them. No, you can chop and slave gold. Overflow is still going to your cash. So if you have 9/10 warrior and slave it and chop something you literaturelly chop&slave gold. doesnt seem to work like that for me. chops pass to next prod, but if you build gold, you store the chops. how do you translate the chops into gold?
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Post by ot4e on Sept 2, 2007 4:46:32 GMT -5
No, you can chop and slave gold. Overflow is still going to your cash. So if you have 9/10 warrior and slave it and chop something you literaturelly chop&slave gold. doesnt seem to work like that for me. chops pass to next prod, but if you build gold, you store the chops. how do you translate the chops into gold? Overflow goes to gold. For example the maximum overflow for warrior is 10 , but if you slave it at 9/10 you get 29/10 and recieve 9 gold+production. You can also chop that turn to get extra gold.
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Post by silknfur on Sept 4, 2007 17:41:37 GMT -5
only useful in the last few turns of a game perhaps for research boost, otherwise u shouldn't need to chop gold if u have worked ur tiles properly, use ur overflow for settlers and workers in anc generally
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Post by redphoenix on Sept 5, 2007 13:40:22 GMT -5
Actually overflow prod passes on to the next unit still I think, not to gold. Or then I've been badly mistaken on the workings of the game.
Atleast in my games it doesn't translate to gold, but to further prod. This has certain advantages that can be used as well.
For example you can slave a warrior over and over to gain a lot of prod to make some more expensive thing that you can't slave.
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Post by mrgametheory on Sept 5, 2007 15:59:27 GMT -5
Since I don´t play anymore I figure I give the old strategy I used, I have no idea if it would still work with bts.
With hayuna capac I used to slave a warrior almost every turn in my ocean cities with 0 production and than use the excess 100 hammers or so on a library, lighthouse, granary, university, bank, forge. With hayuna you are able to build warriors until you get both machinary and civil service, a combo very unique to only hayuna capac. This is a way for you to have an endless supplies of warriors to keep a city happy / defend against a boat attack of less than 3 boats. This was also a great way to get a wonder because being industrious gave a forge for 40 hammers and for 1 slave you would get a free warrior and 20 hammer spill over to any wonder of your choice with a forge ;D
Its funny because I used that strategy for well over a year and it wasnt until now that this topic even came up. I figure within another year or so you people will finally be caught up to the strategies I used to dominate you all ;D
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Post by ot4e on Sept 5, 2007 17:34:49 GMT -5
Actually overflow prod passes on to the next unit still I think, not to gold. Or then I've been badly mistaken on the workings of the game. Atleast in my games it doesn't translate to gold, but to further prod. This has certain advantages that can be used as well. For example you can slave a warrior over and over to gain a lot of prod to make some more expensive thing that you can't slave. no you cant, just check it. The overflow cannot be more that your current production. So slaving/chopping warrior will result in no more than 10 hammers overflow and you'll get cash from the others. I tried it out a lot in ladder games.
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Post by themightyboosh on Sept 5, 2007 19:40:44 GMT -5
Not sure about lost overflow turning into gold, but you certainly cannot overflow more hammers than the cost of the thing you're building. Im constantly calculating overflows, i hate losing hammers. And trading hammers for gold 1:1 isn't very good value unless its for a key tech like music or liberalism, or to get out of a strike.
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Post by italiano on Sept 5, 2007 20:19:00 GMT -5
too late mgt.....i defended a coastal with 8 warriors against 2 boats of knights untill u could get a few pikes in
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Post by xiaojuzi on Sept 6, 2007 4:13:09 GMT -5
low comprehension capacity£¬shame on u. the hammer/gold conversion rate can be up to 1:3 if u micromanage properly.
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Post by redphoenix on Sept 12, 2007 13:53:33 GMT -5
Actually overflow prod passes on to the next unit still I think, not to gold. Or then I've been badly mistaken on the workings of the game. Atleast in my games it doesn't translate to gold, but to further prod. This has certain advantages that can be used as well. For example you can slave a warrior over and over to gain a lot of prod to make some more expensive thing that you can't slave. no you cant, just check it. The overflow cannot be more that your current production. So slaving/chopping warrior will result in no more than 10 hammers overflow and you'll get cash from the others. I tried it out a lot in ladder games. You can slave a warrior, then build whatever, then slave again, build whatever. Didnt mean you could slave 10 warriors in a row to cumulate prod. But this way you slave cheap things to get extra prod to expensive things. In my view sort of an exploit, but very useful, as MGT sleeper has said. But clearly, he's not the onlyone who knew about this.. as I did too
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Post by willburn on Nov 20, 2007 14:04:43 GMT -5
I tought everyone knew this. Walls are especially good to overflow cash with...
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