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Post by icelion on Apr 2, 2007 2:18:34 GMT -5
ok red sure talk about "pause" "upause" is imature.i never had issues with you so far .up to any one to make his mind.btw dr shot im not new to civ if u remind a cton where i kiled u when impis and redwtih mehmet?u can pause here ; read twice.(im refering to the other thread 2v2 occ)and poly its funyohan who psted it.(refereing the thrade os is cheating). its my 6th post. ;D
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Post by cryptococcus on Apr 2, 2007 3:05:07 GMT -5
I just want to know where ellestar was when poor MUD couldn't feild a team. Maybe he was with Panda at birthday party. IDK
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Post by predalpha on Apr 2, 2007 3:59:47 GMT -5
what can i see after reading this topic is the fact that pausing isnt fair but if you have an emergency, you can make it. But unpausing is really disgusting cause in this way you make a certain kind of choice --> You unpause without knowing if the team against you were here. Thus you took "the risk" to fight without honor! It's been a long time we play together for this competition. I hope we could trust each other when a pause is making. That's my point of view. Because we can discuss for every disconnections ... if we follow this kind of way
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Post by Ellestar on Apr 2, 2007 6:26:34 GMT -5
I just want to know where ellestar was when poor MUD couldn't feild a team. Maybe he was with Panda at birthday party. IDK I stopped playing Civ 4 MP. Btw i know that if you melt ice it gives water, no prob, but that wasn't my point and i guess people understood what i meant. Notice that you answered about my geography, not about my argument. Feel free to explain why. Well, you said that russians have no right to tell about water. I suggested you to learn geography - Russia isn't in Sahara. The "mauvaise foi" i was speaking about is the sentence when you claim that MUD was totally in his right, and OS were solely responsible. My whole post is an answer to this, changing nothing on your "mauvaise foi". ( ill had to find the english word for it ) And that's exactly what a personal attack is. Buy a dictionary. I have one, for example. For the sentence, ellestar, i somehow "forgot" to adress, i don't know exactly what happen, but perhaps he already delayed the call for 20 secs, to finish his turn and not to pause before a fast move. Even, if you see an attack starting and you have to take an important call, what will you do ? On such actions you need a maximum concentration, all of you know that. In that case he should have paused 15-20 seconds before the end of previous turn, which is fine. But a 10-second window before and after the end of turn should be free of any pauses.
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SirHill
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Post by SirHill on Apr 2, 2007 6:36:35 GMT -5
[...] Would you have waited and not touch the units before pause was taken off. I doubt it. [...] As I see it, both sides are doing personal attacks. Too bad. " Generally, a personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when examining another person's claims or comments. It is considered a personal attack when a person starts referencing a supposed flaw or weakness in an individual's personality, beliefs, lifestyle, convictions or principles, and use it as a debate tactic or as a means of avoiding discussion of the relevance or truthfulness the person's statement. It works on the reasoning that, by discrediting the source of a logical argument, namely the person making it, the argument itself can be weakened."
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Post by MMV on Apr 2, 2007 7:09:39 GMT -5
assuming an emergency required the pause - the call from the boss, can we assume that the "emergency" call from the boss continued past this one precise moment of unpause and attack and into the next turn, or several turns? I mean - it was an EMERGENCY, right?
was that the only specific time period for the emergency or did you get to pause again after the unpause/attack to deal with the emergency?
sorry, but it couldn't really have been much of an "emergency" if the whole thing (pause for emergency; unpause for attack) was such a short time period.
pausing game like this is STILL an identified game exploit and game exploits like this are a clearly identified and included in the existing rules.
the only time that I'm aware that "unpausing" and continuing play is an exploit or shoudn't be done is when the two teams have agreed to a pause and one person continues anyway. (but again, that DID NOT happen, did it?)
of course, that can be handled IMMEDIATELY with "pause" again
this exploit tactic, and several others similar to them, have been around since at least C3, including but not limited to an opponent's team mate "diplo'ing" you (it used to be automatic acceptance of diplo chat) while his team-mate makes the double move.
there's a whole list of these kinds of exploits - this is NOT the first time this one, or others like them have been used - hence the existance of the current "game exploit" rules.
when you think of "using" tactics like this - always remember that it's HIGHLY unlikely that someone in the past hasn't thought of this before and tried it.
ALWAYS with the same result - cheese, crackers, and whine.
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redphoenix
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Post by redphoenix on Apr 2, 2007 12:03:27 GMT -5
was that the only specific time period for the emergency or did you get to pause again after the unpause/attack to deal with the emergency? I'll answer this one more question. I paused the game immediately after completing the attack(I unpaused for about 1second). I only unpaused to complete the attack & avoid any exploitation. Not to in any way harm the opposing team, or to gain any sort of advantage. And I didn't gain any advantage either.
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Post by whitebull on Apr 2, 2007 12:30:04 GMT -5
I only unpaused to complete the attack & avoid any exploitation. Not to in any way harm the opposing team, or to gain any sort of advantage. And I didn't gain any advantage either. Not any sort of advantage ... just the fact that opponents are not here ...
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Post by pandorasrevenge on Apr 2, 2007 13:22:54 GMT -5
ROFL lol "my boss called" and "my dog ate my homework". So what would u have done if u where on the toilet? U would poo all over the house so ur boss gets to talk to u? WTF its 8 to 15 secs, any boss can wait that long. And if it is really an emergency i wouldnt care anymore about the game and be to busy with the emergency. Pausing is not a right, its a privelage. The other team has to agree to ur pause. Therefor u pause at an unimportant moment and then see if there is an objection. Pausing in an attack is considered cheating in my opinion , like it is considered cheating to switch on combat animations when u get attacked to slow the opposing player while ur team gets to move troops. However in ur case i can believe its simple stupidity and can forgive u for it. Just pls dont do it again.
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Post by whitebull on Apr 2, 2007 14:47:33 GMT -5
Pausing is not a right, its a privelage. Unpausing isn't a right nor a privelage. It's un-fair-play.
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Post by mansurji on Apr 2, 2007 15:57:25 GMT -5
like it is considered cheating to switch on combat animations when u get attacked to slow the opposing player while ur team gets to move troops. looks like if some people want to learn about exploit, you just have to ask C4P players... with no offense to u pandoras another trick that is not known on civfr
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Post by Canucksoldier on Apr 2, 2007 16:25:49 GMT -5
Ok this thread is clearly serving no purpose now but mud slinging, if it ever served a purpose to start with. You can all read the clearly stated C4P policy on how to properly file complaints in several other threads here. Thread locked.
CS
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