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Post by inter on Feb 19, 2007 6:42:51 GMT -5
there have been 2 pretty sad situations...
first sad thing INTER lost event 6 without playing cuz ..A.. vs MDR lasted more than 8 hours and we had no clan ready then. so why give a TIME to players which is not real? if we knew "maybe" we were second round "maybe" some of us would have slept during the day and be ready to play at night, no? am i wrong? am i asking too much? is this FAIR to loose a game without playing after 7 hours i was in the lobby i went away... then i realize i lost... wow this is nice organization!
second thing a player of us didn't know the rule was 15 minutes waiting for a drop and in event 10 our enemy clan had a drop and took 12 minutes to come back, our player went nuts and quit the game. We were discussin in lobby about what is right and what is wrong and admins gave WIN to our versus clan as we were not back in the game in time, actually i didn't even ask for a sub ( we had 3 and more players on line) because i was buzy discussing with admins. is this fair?
thank u
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Post by venceslas on Feb 19, 2007 7:16:13 GMT -5
second thing a player of us didn't know the rule was 15 minutes waiting for a drop and in event 10 our enemy clan had a drop and took 12 minutes to come back, our player went nuts and quit the game. We were discussin in lobby about what is right and what is wrong and admins gave WIN to our versus clan as we were not back in the game in time, actually i didn't even ask for a sub ( we had 3 and more players on line) because i was buzy discussing with admins. is this fair? thank u I will give my side of the story. One player from LKT has disconected and he is never come back. We have a sub(me), but it take some minut to call Patrick469 to get its password. So that's true, we take about 12 minuts and I sub Patrick469. When I'm arriving in the game, opposite team say that I have taken more ten minuts to come, and has decided to contact the TD in order to ask our disqualification(that's a big strange to contact the TD after I had hotjoined). I must admit that I said to these players which they were quite unfairplay. I beg pardon for this delay to INTER. Well, next after that we were insulted "motherf**ker" and other things. I may have keep the screenshot. We were in advance in point, took one city, and have some hope to take another city. One player from the opposite team has insulted the TD and they refuse to hotjoin the game. I think these points have provoked the admin's decision. Well, that was just one player of INTER which has insulted us, other were nice, and Bantam has also been nice. chris.
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Post by Bantams on Feb 19, 2007 8:18:27 GMT -5
As Clan Captain I Conceded this event due to the Mass Brawl that was taking place in the Lobby As the TD in charge wasnt about much it was crazy in event 12 we [INTER] had to wait 40 minutes for our 1st round team to show up Who should have been disqualified BTW due to being LATE! The rules regards SUBS and CCC Start times re how long you have to bloody wait need explaining in more Detail Before the Next CCC
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Post by MookieNJ on Feb 19, 2007 11:34:42 GMT -5
Although there is a such thing as detailed rules, a lot of what CCC is about to me is mutual respect, fair play, and fun competition. Many of my funnest games have been against MDR, LKT has been great opponents, I've played a ton of games against the MUD guys over my time on the ladder, etc. If people need 15 or 20 minutes because they just finished a grueling game, really need to grab something to eat, or need to give a clan member a call to wake them up because they're tired from playing so much Civ and needed a nap, this is fine with me. I'm not going to call for a concession because I want a cheap win -- I respect my opponents too much for this and I want to earn a victory or lose fairly while trying. Additionally, this respect has been afforded to us many times over as well -- this very CCC LKT gave us 30 minutes wait time to play the Industrial final because we were stuck in the Renaissance event (even though they started 12 hours apart the events overlapped!), and MDR gave me time to call and wake up my teammates who were taking naps between rounds of the Industrial. I am saddened to hear that a clan would be so quick to call for a disqualification over a matter as simple to resolve as calling up a player to get his civ password. I am even more saddened to hear that they would continue to call for a disqualification after a sub has been able to join the game. What ever happened to fair play, decency, and respect?
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Post by balmung on Feb 19, 2007 12:09:51 GMT -5
I may know only parts of the situation so its difficult to judge. But i know that I dont like getting sub in 18 turns left when situation becomes critical Nice timeout for brainstorming On the other hand when someone realy drops: nuts happens, we all know that this could happen.
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Post by inter on Feb 19, 2007 12:11:01 GMT -5
hehehe... venceslas maybe next time i drop too so i let my captain in ( ops, maybe not the captain tho ( btw are u captain Banty? lol ) so he can end the game for me as last turns are the most crucial , btw you know better than me you lost in the ipotetical end turn by more than 200 points, you got a city to our player early turns then we completely got the game in our hands... i think it was a trick... and FAIR PLAY in WAR maybe is just a word people like to say to shine in front others... Bantams had concede for us instead of subbing this is the news that makes me even sadder but now who cares... i just realize people don't care if you wait more than 7 hours for a game and maybe don't even care about their own clanmates... once a Pope dies they do another.
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Post by whitebull on Feb 19, 2007 13:56:29 GMT -5
For the 7 hours thing, this is really boring but unusual. In this case, we wait. At leat One person wait, with partners numbers on his side. That is the way it is since i know CCC, what do u ask for ? TD to call u ? ;D For the second point, u wrong, rules are really clear, insulting ppl is forbiden
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Post by MMV on Feb 19, 2007 14:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lestat on Feb 19, 2007 14:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by balmung on Feb 19, 2007 15:39:30 GMT -5
For the second point, u wrong, rules are really clear, insulting ppl is forbiden Yeah, only allowed when you are ....................and not in a noob clan ;D And to make some inter player dont look stupid and unfair a record of a chat : [17:07:09] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : inter is there a problem? [17:07:13] ninou_c4f-tk : yes [17:07:28] [GOD]Tobey_c4f-tk : rofl [17:07:31] ninou_c4f-tk : inter don't want to finish this game [17:07:39] PhiliptheBold-tk : what's the pw for Europe game 7 slots [17:07:47] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : so has inter's team conciede? [17:07:49] [RaY]Nup_da_noob_farmer_c4f-tk : I would think it's pretty clear, if inter quits and won't play on, then they conceede [17:07:50] [RaY]Nup_da_noob_farmer_c4f-tk : game over [17:07:56] ninou_c4f-tk : they want we concede [17:08:02] [RaY]Nup_da_noob_farmer_c4f-tk : LKT declared victor [17:08:06] ninou_c4f-tk : but we find a sub in game [17:08:08] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : ok lkt wins [17:08:09] Venceslas_c4f-tk : we are ok if they want to continue [17:08:11] [RaY]GoggyThompson_c4f-tk : I agree Knupp The TD in charge together with RAY´s great help needs less then 1 min to analyse the situation. And you see a lot of INTER players involved during that decision Hm wouldnt be happy about that too
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Post by Lestat on Feb 19, 2007 15:59:18 GMT -5
who is that noob TD pinguin he cant declare win to any 1 without prof and also he cant make any decision without team of admin and td. wot knupzy talking here , is he adim crap ...
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Post by SweViking on Feb 19, 2007 16:55:36 GMT -5
Hmmm i guess the only chance that INTER actually need to wait for another game to end is if they get a "bye" first round... and if you get a "bye" you will always have to wait, its normal. And second of all i kind of doubt that a 4v4 anc took more the 8 hours If i recall correct ithink the entire event was over within 10 hours.
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Post by cankaban on Feb 19, 2007 16:58:13 GMT -5
hmm i have no opinion about lkt inter game but i can explain my side of story about MDR vs ..A.. game,cause i played that game.
i dont know how many hours we played but i dont think we did an unfair thing cause we could win on points when they killed 1 of us and won,so the game was fair,points were close,,just game had some connection problems almost all players dropped for 2 times,its nothing about fair play,you cant expect 2 clans forthfeit same time from that event to let inter play next round for the name of fair play sorry..
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Post by inter on Feb 19, 2007 17:19:59 GMT -5
cankaban ----------> fair play referred to : lost on event 6 as we didn't have players after 8 hours in lobby to play round 2, the BYE thing. Event was my Italian time GMT +1 that is 5 pm. At 10.30 one of MDR messaged me u still had like 40 turns.... i had dinner and relaxed and i came back and still nothing so i went out. It's nothing about u did something in yer event...but maybe you can understand other people are waiting as i understand your right to play and wait versus clan drops for FAIR PLAY... BUT after waiting so much our Princess in Event 10 went nuts to the rest who report their CCC experience : i m not experienced CCC player and i m very new to civ too waiting so much and getting then a loss is mindblowing, next time maybe i take my WC under my shoulder like Lestat does or i just register last second if my clan needs a player... well now i know thank u for attention. For MMV --------> well the problem was ANNA problem and a misunderstanding about timings to get back in a CCC game, now having ANNA alone fighting with her poor English in a lobby where "very few" people cared about what's was going on made me really firy and fascist. We would have won the game i asked and really BEGGED her to stay but ONCE she went out it was my place to stay near her.. Bantams conceded as he thought i had quit the game too so we needed 2 subs but we needed just one... Now as a brave soldier told me : we need a diplomatic in our clan too so i vote Balmung capitane and Banty diploboy ...
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Post by balmung on Feb 19, 2007 17:44:31 GMT -5
Hmmm i guess the only chance that INTER actually need to wait for another game to end is if they get a "bye" first round... and if you get a "bye" you will always have to wait, its normal. And second of all i kind of doubt that a 4v4 anc took more the 8 hours If i recall correct ithink the entire event was over within 10 hours. Sweviking the event started at 11 am and when i joined lobby shortly before 5 pm for event 8 they were just looking for the INTER players. This makes 6 hours without registration. Long time. But as inter said, we are a noob clan and we got no telephone list. Our fault No problem also it could drive you crazy wasting a saturday
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Post by emperorpenguin25 on Feb 19, 2007 17:57:02 GMT -5
For the second point, u wrong, rules are really clear, insulting ppl is forbiden Yeah, only allowed when you are ....................and not in a noob clan ;D And to make some inter player dont look stupid and unfair a record of a chat : [17:07:09] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : inter is there a problem? [17:07:13] ninou_c4f-tk : yes [17:07:28] [GOD]Tobey_c4f-tk : rofl [17:07:31] ninou_c4f-tk : inter don't want to finish this game [17:07:39] PhiliptheBold-tk : what's the pw for Europe game 7 slots [17:07:47] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : so has inter's team conciede? [17:07:49] [RaY]Nup_da_noob_farmer_c4f-tk : I would think it's pretty clear, if inter quits and won't play on, then they conceede [17:07:50] [RaY]Nup_da_noob_farmer_c4f-tk : game over [17:07:56] ninou_c4f-tk : they want we concede [17:08:02] [RaY]Nup_da_noob_farmer_c4f-tk : LKT declared victor [17:08:06] ninou_c4f-tk : but we find a sub in game [17:08:08] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : ok lkt wins [17:08:09] Venceslas_c4f-tk : we are ok if they want to continue [17:08:11] [RaY]GoggyThompson_c4f-tk : I agree Knupp The TD in charge together with RAY´s great help needs less then 1 min to analyse the situation. And you see a lot of INTER players involved during that decision Hm wouldnt be happy about that too Yeah go ahead make me the scape goat; but before posting this stuff you should know that the team captain told me in a different part they concede. And in the rules what the TD says is final! no amount of whimpering will change this. Like the Chicago Cubs vs Florida Marlins. Bartman caught the ball when it was foul. till this day I still hear walking down the Mag Mile what would have happened if Bartman did not "steal" the ball from Alou; but to this day the head of the MLB has not said anything to "Fix" this so all you clan members should face the facts. GOD won CCC43 is over. see you next CCC
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Post by Bantams on Feb 19, 2007 18:05:42 GMT -5
We got 8 points thats 8 more than than ..A.. im happy with that forget this Thread please NEXT ccc we go for 12 points ok
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Post by balmung on Feb 19, 2007 18:19:25 GMT -5
Yeah go ahead make me the scape goat; but before posting this stuff you should know that the team captain told me in a different part they concede. And in the rules what the TD says is final! no amount of whimpering will change this. Like the Chicago Cubs vs Florida Marlins. Bartman caught the ball when it was foul. till this day I still hear walking down the Mag Mile what would have happened if Bartman did not "steal" the ball from Alou; but to this day the head of the MLB has not said anything to "Fix" this so all you clan members should face the facts. GOD won CCC43 is over. see you next CCC Penguin my last post to that issue ( i hope so) [17:12:18] [INTER]Bantams_c4f-tk : I concede on behalf of My clan [17:12:21] [INTER]Nazionale_c4f-tk : ah really ? [17:12:26] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : WELL THEY HAVE JUST BEEN [17:12:30] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : LKT WINS [17:12:37] ckruse007-tk : join Blazing Warlords FFA [17:12:38] [RaY]GoggyThompson_c4f-tk : what event was this? [17:12:40] ckruse007-tk : join Blazing Warlords FFA [17:12:57] [INTER]Bantams_c4f-tk : 10 goggy [17:13:05] [GOD]Tobey_c4f-tk : why is RaY getting into this conflict? [17:13:06] ninou_c4f-tk : Bantams you are fair tkhs [17:13:09] [C4PAdmin]CanuckSoldier_c4f-tk : Bantams is the clan captain, that is a valid statement [17:13:11] ckruse007-tk : join Blazing Warlords FFA [17:13:13] [GOD]Tobey_c4f-tk : i didnt know you had anything to do with it [17:13:20] [C4PTD]EmperorPenguin25_c4f-tk : THEY HAVE BEEN DQ ALREADY look at the time when Bantams concede And dont post nice stories S*hit happens but pls fair play No problem with final ruling of TD´s. But TD`s are not the pope, they are able to fail. And they should be able to think about their rulings End of story . INTER lost and LKT won. No more problem .
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Post by Bantams on Feb 19, 2007 18:51:50 GMT -5
Hmmm i guess the only chance that INTER actually need to wait for another game to end is if they get a "bye" first round... and if you get a "bye" you will always have to wait, its normal. And second of all i kind of doubt that a 4v4 anc took more the 8 hours If i recall correct ithink the entire event was over within 10 hours. Sweviking the event started at 11 am and when i joined lobby shortly before 5 pm for event 8 they were just looking for the INTER players. This makes 6 hours without registration. Long time. But as inter said, we are a noob clan and we got no telephone list. Our fault No problem also it could drive you crazy wasting a saturday IF this is true we waited 8 hours for this event to start then the clan Involved should have been Disqualified? The rules regards SUBS and waiting to start a game need to be clarified in more detail perhaps
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Post by Bantams on Feb 19, 2007 18:57:28 GMT -5
Hmmm i guess the only chance that INTER actually need to wait for another game to end is if they get a "bye" first round... and if you get a "bye" you will always have to wait, its normal. And second of all i kind of doubt that a 4v4 anc took more the 8 hours If i recall correct ithink the entire event was over within 10 hours. go sell some MP9000
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