Post by mrgametheory on Jun 1, 2006 12:50:46 GMT -5
"Glaring at a broken glass on the floor and screaming, "IT'S NOT MY JOB TO CLEAN IT UP," and then getting angry when it cuts you seems a tad odd to me. If you're given the chance, why not do something with it, no matter who started the problem?"
I think you made a mistake. A better metaphor would be:
Being told by someone that a Glass cup they were selling would be exactly like the representation of the glass cup they were selling. After you bought the glass cup you realized that it held water most efficiently, but almost every time you put your lips to the glass it would pinch your lip. When you went to the guy and complained about the product he went ahead and changed the color of the glass and added a nice cool culturally accepted slang to the glass, but he didn't fix the problem you asked for and instead asked you to help him fix the problem instead of whining over the broken glass because he is too busy spending his time marketing the glass cup and serving the needs of people who use the glass cup to put on a display in their house for decorations.
I think this is a better metaphor
In the end, the people who designed Civ 4 have no business sense. Why do I say this? Because they think the credibility they are losing by not dealing with a problem immediately which they are inevitably going to have to deal with later isn't worth the money. They look at the amount of people who play this game and realize that it is a small minority who actually play this game in multi player format and so its illogical "to them" to allocate too many resources to this area. This game has the potential to be the most strategic video game ever made, but the people who are working with the product lack the proper vision. Obviously the makers of the game don't want to make a perfect product or people wont buy Civ 5. But thats the wrong way of looking at this problem because if you make a perfect civ 4 than you will get an insane flux of people to play the game and all you have to do is make an even better civ 5 and everyone from civ 4 will come to civ 5. Civ 4 is garbage MP wise to some people and that is why they have not left Civ 3. If you fix all the problems of Civ 4 I bet you will instantly receive a flux of players.
(If there is no way of solving the MP issues than I guess you are handling the situation accordingly and you are just trying to buy yourselves time and so I say good luck and fire the people who made the initial product for creating a messed up foundation or next time hire specific people who test in this aspect of MP specifically. If there looks like a possible way of fixing the problem and there is a lack of resources being put into fixing the problem than I was correct and the people who are in charge of the product are idiots, (Im not going to call them retarted because of course they made a good product, but idiots because they are letting a problem which can be fixed ruin its MP reputation).
*Burn*!
I think you made a mistake. A better metaphor would be:
Being told by someone that a Glass cup they were selling would be exactly like the representation of the glass cup they were selling. After you bought the glass cup you realized that it held water most efficiently, but almost every time you put your lips to the glass it would pinch your lip. When you went to the guy and complained about the product he went ahead and changed the color of the glass and added a nice cool culturally accepted slang to the glass, but he didn't fix the problem you asked for and instead asked you to help him fix the problem instead of whining over the broken glass because he is too busy spending his time marketing the glass cup and serving the needs of people who use the glass cup to put on a display in their house for decorations.
I think this is a better metaphor
In the end, the people who designed Civ 4 have no business sense. Why do I say this? Because they think the credibility they are losing by not dealing with a problem immediately which they are inevitably going to have to deal with later isn't worth the money. They look at the amount of people who play this game and realize that it is a small minority who actually play this game in multi player format and so its illogical "to them" to allocate too many resources to this area. This game has the potential to be the most strategic video game ever made, but the people who are working with the product lack the proper vision. Obviously the makers of the game don't want to make a perfect product or people wont buy Civ 5. But thats the wrong way of looking at this problem because if you make a perfect civ 4 than you will get an insane flux of people to play the game and all you have to do is make an even better civ 5 and everyone from civ 4 will come to civ 5. Civ 4 is garbage MP wise to some people and that is why they have not left Civ 3. If you fix all the problems of Civ 4 I bet you will instantly receive a flux of players.
(If there is no way of solving the MP issues than I guess you are handling the situation accordingly and you are just trying to buy yourselves time and so I say good luck and fire the people who made the initial product for creating a messed up foundation or next time hire specific people who test in this aspect of MP specifically. If there looks like a possible way of fixing the problem and there is a lack of resources being put into fixing the problem than I was correct and the people who are in charge of the product are idiots, (Im not going to call them retarted because of course they made a good product, but idiots because they are letting a problem which can be fixed ruin its MP reputation).
*Burn*!