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Post by Ellestar on Aug 27, 2006 10:36:20 GMT -5
By the way, who are you anyway so to say to me when i should speak and when i shouldn't? Sure not, but i'd preffer too that only ppl wo were there talk about a thing they know... Not speaking about who is trustable or not, but on what were the facts... In other news today, when i said that we know that Popov saw the popups, mansurji and now whitebull started flames so to hide my statement. But i'm not dumb, it will not work here. I know that board warrior tactics very well. If you'll continue to do it i'll just continue to post that statement. That will render your tactics ineffective. I repeat once again. Now we know that Popov saw the popups. That conclusion probably was missed by admins and so i said about it. I have a right to say anything that will bring justice to offenders. And, talking about facts you wanted, no amount of your flame will hide that fact.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 27, 2006 10:30:50 GMT -5
Oh sure, sorry i didnt knew i was speaking with a ladder veteran, i apologize. Of course, you have the right to discuss a situation where you wasnt involved, and to send some dubious humouristic message into a serious situation. It's the right the years passed has given to you, i agree, no probz with that. Anyway, you're right on one point, there's some injustice there, and the situation is really tricky. I hope we will be able to find a good solution for everyone. Feel free to ignore anything what i said, after all you have no other choice but pretend that you don't understand my arguments. That will make you look like a fool but whatever is good for you. Also, it wasn't humorous message. I'm serious. IMHO Popov should be punished.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 27, 2006 10:09:59 GMT -5
I'm speaking because i don't like cheating and unjustice. And from what i saw here, it looks very fishy.
Also, it's a ladder forums and a ladder issue. I think that as a veteran Civ 4 ladder player i have a right to speak about any issue. If only because it affects me as well, directly or indirectly.
By the way, who are you anyway so to say to me when i should speak and when i shouldn't?
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 27, 2006 10:05:07 GMT -5
Uh oh, there's one guy that was monitoring WL lobby ? Wasnt it DeyReepher ? As it was the guy we sent to check for swissy... remember it was very late ( 6 am in france ) and we were all confused and exhausted. So this could explain some things... Well, there must be a solution that could content everyone Yes. Since now we know that popov actually saw the popups, he should get 0 points from that event. That will be a much better solution.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 5, 2006 15:01:48 GMT -5
All this is true but all I know is that it can be very annoying reporting to someone without the exact same name. I report to them anyway but feel that it should not be held against someone who chooses not to report to someone without exact ladder account match to game name. I mean how hard is it to have a perfect match, not causing people to first type in what they think it is, then type in clan tag, then type clan tag with symbols around it to finally get the correct ladder name sometimes. Add on top of the some ridiculous spelling or symbols in the name... ah forget it. Actually according to the rules you shound't report if ladder name isn't exactly, per-symbol the same as gamespy name.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 3, 2006 11:45:36 GMT -5
I ended every +90 streak that happened till now and f this guys get +100 i ll play him ;D Haha you definately ended mine +58 one by being in my team No help from you when you was in the back and i was 1v2. Instead, you gave absolutely all units to some noob on front near me who didn't even move his stack so to help me defend.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 3, 2006 0:32:12 GMT -5
Honestly, I think it takes a lot more skill to consistently win Ctons than it does to consistently win teamers. In a Cton it's you against the world. You need to defend on multiple fronts, expand, tech, etc. Plus you need to pray you've got the resources to build stronger units or you could be choked to death. On the flipside, in a teamer, a lot of the time you can get a win when you don't even contribute anything to the game. Someone else is doing all the killing while you are in the back building up, or teching, or whatever. Also, you can get a loss due to luck as well -- some noob on the front for your team loses his city to a longbow or dies to 2 Camels or whatever. In the end, I enjoy teamers a lot more than I enjoy ctons ... and I really think there is a lot of skill involved in playing a teamer well. However, unless you are playing a "bring your own team" sort of game, which is hardly ever done, there's always a large amount of luck involved with the open pick up games we play the most. Ctons are a joke. I had a 37/3 win/loss, +25 win streak and 19xx skill raiting from ctons when i just started playing Civ 4 (after i played like 13-15 Civ 4 games total, including singleplayer). And i got /3 losses when i started in a lakes map in a middle of a desert and near an agressive opponent. Ctons are so rediculously easy that i stopped playing them after that. And cton win streak is meaningless. Numerous players got a huge cton streaks that were stopped only by a teamer, 1v1 or a cton with some top player in a game.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 2, 2006 14:04:51 GMT -5
I had +58 from teamers only, more than half were top teamers No you didn't, you have a 48 win streak as your longest, 2 less than me. Jeez, lying to impress Bantams...worrying. Last time i checked it was +58. Now i check it again... and it's still +58 ;D I think you need to buy a magnifying glass.
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Post by Ellestar on Aug 1, 2006 11:20:19 GMT -5
Until the noob starts playing Warlords he ain't going to come across any real opposition. Despite playing some 87 games in the last week his rank is something awful and he has played 73% of games against lower ranked players than himself. Now, if he was always winning and was playing teamers, then I'd be VERY impressed. I had +58 from teamers only, more than half were top teamers
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 2, 2006 9:04:07 GMT -5
oooo.... i dont play that bc... i dont play that bc... i will play that IF... i will play that IF... soounds like girl ROFLMAO Anyway, i'm playing only whatever i find fun to play I can do something else (not Civ 4) instead of playing some game i expect not to be fun. It's pretty natural for people to choose players they've played the most with and are comforable with Ellestar. The teamer we played was 5 MuD + 3 others, 1 of wich was you and you play with those guys all the time. Join a 8 player teamer with 5 ills captained by two ills and see how fast you get picked. I agree with you on that. Last time i checked it was a teamer with 10 players and 5+3=8. Ok, find me one. I'll gladly play in it if teams will be fair (especially as long as i'm not a captain). By the way, when you see such a big Illuminati teamer they generally play in a "5 Illuminati veterans who're playing since Civ 3 and Civ 4 beta vs 5 random noobs" format
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 2, 2006 6:50:46 GMT -5
My mistake, I saw you on MUD roster for this CCC so I assumed you were a member. Well, during a previous CCC Tommynt asked with which clan do i play in CCC. I said that i don't play in that CCC because noone invited me to play with them. He said that i should have asked him because MUD lacked players for that CCC. This time once again noone asked me if i want to play with them. Since i didn't want to miss 2nd CCC in a row, i decided to ask Tommynt, may i play with MUD in this CCC as a guest? I don't like to impose oneself to others and i find it even more stupid to write that i want to play in CCC with any clan on forums but in this case Tommynt already made it known that he's semi-interested so i decided that it's ok to ask him. After a while, he agreed. I'm a better teamer player than you Says who? How do you measure such a thing anyway? You can't. I agree that team playing is a different dynamic and some people are better at doing what's good for the team while others simply try to showboat and get the high score or wonder sleeper but there's only one way to measure who is a more skilled player and that's with the duel. If your so against that than meet me in a cton and we'll see who needs to learn how to play. And if you ever have the good fortune to play on a team with me again stfu and listen you might learn something, nub. ... Whatever. But anyway, technically i was a team captain. And good team players do listen to team captain's advices instead of saying stfu noob. So, you're not a good team player Edit: I found an acceptable way to measure a relative player skill in teamers. It's the order of picking. Recently i was in first 3 picks in top teamers most of the time.
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 2, 2006 6:35:55 GMT -5
Well if you remember right, i was in your team elle and won the game for you like the other times Not all the times You won some for me, but i won 1st place for you once as well so it's fair
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 2, 2006 4:21:15 GMT -5
No reason? It's called building a stack Ellestar. It's not a duel/cton so here tactic is a little different. Together we had enough units to kill that city before it got a culture expansion, more units in it etc. It was their only front city so no point to build a stack in an attempt to surprise the enemy. My basic point is that you question all my moves and tell me I don't know what I'm doing but you have NOTHING to back it up with because all you do is hide behind tommy and the rest of your clanmates in your teamers. Plenty of other #1 ranked players have come and gone before you piggy-backing on tommy with that same excuse, I don't play duels cause I don't like them. I tend to disagree ;D First, i got a 1st place in a fair fight (teamers of course) Ellestar - last 200 gamestommynt 1 4 WON Wed May 24 12:45:09 2006 tommynt 2 3 WON Fri May 26 13:19:27 2006 everybodysdarling 1 2 WON Fri May 26 15:45:38 2006 tommynt 3 2 WON Fri May 26 15:42:29 2006 That was 3 teamers in a row vs tommynt in opposite team. So it's not like i'm always hiding behind him And i got 1st place in previous time while playing against: Germania 2 3 WON Fri May 5 11:08:12 2006 [RaY]Rokkit 24 3 WON Fri May 5 11:01:49 2006 Elite_Fighter 10 3 WON Fri May 5 11:01:12 2006 Sebsss 67 3 WON Fri May 5 11:01:04 2006 Tretyakov 48 3 WON Fri May 5 11:00:25 2006 Islandia 8 3 WON Fri May 5 11:00:06 2006 [GC]Nero 5 3 WON Fri May 5 10:59:06 2006 Polydeukes 6 1 WON Fri May 5 15:28:36 2006 everybodysdarling 11 1 WON Fri May 5 15:26:00 2006 [RaY]Rokkit 26 1 WON Fri May 5 15:24:53 2006 AngelOnEarth 29 1 WON Fri May 5 15:24:14 2006 tommynt 1 2 WON Fri May 5 15:22:31 2006 Tretyakov 50 2 WON Fri May 5 15:21:58 2006 2 teamers in a row, both times i was a captain in my team vs Germania and Tommynt respectively. *** Second, I AM NOT IN A CLAN. Thank you. I got an invitation to join TX and/or to play with TX in CCC as a guest. I said that i'll play in CCC with TX as a guest and i'll give my answer about joining a clan after CCC. After CCC TX leader left the clan and clan was disbanded so i never was in a Civilization clan. Your not fooling a single person tho, most duels can be finished in 20-30 mins tops so you if you don't want to do it for fun do it for honor, do it to prove you deserve to be #1. Too bad your scared you'll be eating your words and getting owned by a low-skill no nothing noob like me. I don't need any "honor" and i don't have any desire to prove anything to anyone. I never claimed that i'm a skilled duel player because i'm not one. Probably you're a better duel player than me. So what? I'm a better teamer player than you so it evens it out. And so you got some advices from me as well in that teamer (however most were from tommynt and others). IMHO there is no need to go crazy because of it.
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Post by Ellestar on Jun 2, 2006 1:47:03 GMT -5
I've played 1000 games on the ladder you really think I need you to tell me to hook up my copper when I'm front lines in an ancient teamer? You guys take all the fun out of civing and from now on the only games I play we will be on opposite sides, which means i'll probably only ever play you in the ccc because all your teamers are 75%+ composed of your clan, how else would you all stay in the top 10? Hey, i'm not in MUD and i'm in top 10 as well. So it's not like it's impossible. And to Mr.Ranked #1 who says I need to learn how to play: Quit being a chicken and accept my duel challenge, then we'll see who gets schooled. Correction: learn how to play in ancient teamers And i said it after you complained that you get too much directions about what to do (mostly from tommynt IIRC). No reason to stay with 4 axes in your capital when you have only one enemy axe nearby and enemies planted a city on grass and we plan to kill it. Also, roads on front are a first priority, ESPECIALLY when we're trying to kill enemy city. I made roads for you... Besides, you was in a situation when enemies had 4 warriors vs your 2 in capital (that's when you moved 2 warriors on copper) - it's not really safe. Also, you should have fortified 1st axe you got on a forest in front of your capital instead of warrior hunting. You had enough warriors on your own to hold remaining enemy warriors for a while but you shouldn't have allowed an enemy axe to take such a good position. But i made some mistakes as well in that teamer. I don't like duels and so i didn't play much of them. If you want duels, ask some duel players like tommynt and they'll gladly play with you. I don't find ctons fun because they're too easy (unless you're being zeged which i hate in other games as well so it's another reason not to play them when i have a high rank). Duels are more random IMHO, and they require to think about everything (i don't like to do it all the time, i prefer tactics to strategy), they require more responsibility (and i don't like responsibility, that's the primary reason why i don't like to be captain in teamers). So, i play teamers, preferably with players who can handle themselves (i don't like to be a captain and i don't like to pick players i don't know). Get 2 good captains i trust in a teamer and i'll play in it.
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Post by Ellestar on May 31, 2006 1:24:41 GMT -5
Two workers early on would help out A LOT and I would have probably grown up to the same pop as a teammate who only went one worker and grew because I would have more things improved. Either way I shouldn't have tried to do this since I wasn't in the back. No, with one worker you can improve land with about the same speed your city grows so you use improved squares most of the time (in Ancient start). With 2 workers in a row in size 1 city you'll improve more squares but you'll not be able to work them anyway. As a result, you'll SIGNIFICANTLY lose in production. Not to mention that you'll die if you're front. And if you're in the back, it's not a bad idea to make some wonders etc.
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Post by Ellestar on May 31, 2006 1:20:33 GMT -5
In theory yes but I also have foudn Quechas to be ineffective against archers who hold defensive bonus positions (Forest, hills, cities.) If they're fortified then maybe you'll have a lower than 50% chance to win. But they cost significantly less. And if you choke enemy he has lower production than you most of the time.
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Post by Ellestar on May 30, 2006 16:18:51 GMT -5
ques do nuts to archer in wood and in city and axe and spears were on way to help u.. as said some1 who tries ll very unusually die fast -as archers in ciites are so hard to beat. and our india had no res in cap - so building oracle and henge backed up by me going military was a good idea imo No, quecha has 2.2 Str (combat 1) vs archer's str 2 (+50% forest -100% quecha vs archers so 3/(1-(1-0.5))=2). Even with archer's first strikes, you still have more than 50% chance vs archer in forest with quecha.
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Post by Ellestar on May 30, 2006 16:06:14 GMT -5
ya es, but a nonslowed builds a archer and cant be killed after - Well, Ghandi was 12 squares away from me. If he made units instead of both Stonehenge and Oracle i think i didn't have a chance. By the way, you had Quechuas to counter archers.
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Post by Ellestar on May 30, 2006 15:48:13 GMT -5
noobs keep on dying in every game i m in - again some1 with 0 units - this time in t40 or so Actually, turn 34. And hey, he had a starting warrior somewhere. It's not like we saw it though ;D By the way, you got a crazy capital. Horse, Cow, Wheat, Clams, Grass hill and 3 Plain hills in a capital. And only 10 squares between our capitals and you started with warriors vs scouts... Also, you got Ghandi, Rome and 3 Agressive civs in Acient start. Random was definately on your side this time. We even didn't get many techs with our 5 scouts, we got only Iron Working and that's all.
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Post by Ellestar on May 30, 2006 12:34:08 GMT -5
In other news today: Just another noob just died in Anc TBG teamer, and he was in Tommynt team once again. I say Tommynt just attracts noobs, they flock to him like bees to honey and flies to a light source.
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