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Post by Earl Harewood on Nov 22, 2007 8:49:17 GMT -5
I'm sick of being abused by ladder members whilst just trying to find a game. I can now see why nobody joins ladder these days it's because quite simply you are all arseholes. Nobody wants to play with people like you, people who lie, cheat, quit games, throw insults at each other in the lobby all day and are just generally hostile to everybody. On top of that, when giving up valuable time to run tournaments for people, i've met nothing but hostility from the majority of players, considering that i'm doing a favour for everyone you think people would just lay off, but apparently not.
There was a time when ladder members were quite generally a nice bunch of people who would play a game with anyone and most lobby flaming was all in good humour. I think pretty much everybody here needs to grow up and just realise that we're here to have fun and right now, playing with people like you is no fun at all.
I love this game so much and have played mp civ for many many years, the attitudes of people in this community have ruined this game for me, and that's just unforgivable. Goodbye, I won't miss you.
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Post by Bantams on Nov 22, 2007 9:53:29 GMT -5
Oh well at least they sacked McClarren so it not all too bad anyway good luck earl you will be missed
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Post by MMV on Nov 22, 2007 10:12:35 GMT -5
oh come'on earl, phuck'em and annoy them more by staying.
regrettably, the 6-10 fools you reference are just louder than the other +100 who do appreciate a good game, the efforts people put forth, and just enjoy the game in general.
those 6-10 are basically "latch-key" kids who's parents work and consequently don't have the proper supervision all children need.
even if they aren't kids, they act like it.
MAKE THEM feel uncomfortable, don't succumb to their lack of social graces (they're on the net 24/7 for a reason - no friends due to lack of social graces)
NEVER commit "suicide" - make them do it instead
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Post by AngelofLove on Nov 22, 2007 13:14:45 GMT -5
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Post by 9iron9 on Nov 23, 2007 1:19:27 GMT -5
Oh well at least they sacked McClarren so it not all too bad anyway good luck earl you will be missed whats 9-12 inch's long and sits in front of a cuunt........... steve maclarens tie
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Post by terdaz on Nov 23, 2007 3:58:39 GMT -5
sad ,sad....news
. I agree....
They have corrupted the ladder rules,rejecting systematically,all newest player. They created a cult(+-top 25)...others are sh*ts...
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Post by tamijo on Nov 23, 2007 8:35:16 GMT -5
Play pitbox, thats a lot more fun, and you dont need to waist time in lobby, waiting for someone to let you in a game. Or make aggreement with clanmates to meet and play. "Lobby-waiting" civ is !!
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Post by tommynt on Nov 23, 2007 11:44:01 GMT -5
Earl is so right, I criticized this "hostile trend" more a year ago multiple times allready.
But 0 was done by admins, instead of doing something a total not a very nice person like speaker was made admin. My complaints about rudeness among ladder players were made down by these stupid "looser whines" or "noob" arguments.
A game having this big problems as civ4 got can only survive with a "good" community, civ4 community was never good - it was maybe at it s prime time skilled and competetive but there was never respect for other players.
I blame admins for doing nothing and some slows who were bad role models for others. Dont tell me u d have acted if u had known - I wrote several reports and examples - never has happened anything.
Ladder is dead and main reason is lacking coherence of the community.
Bye Earl
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Post by marr on Nov 23, 2007 12:47:36 GMT -5
Goodbye Earl, (We all know you will be back) and if you come back, (which we all know you will) give some of us your new nic, (because you will be to embarrassed now after starting a goodbye thread) and get back into those games that you played and loved.
@ Tommynt - You Sycophant! Wtf, your one of those self indulgent socialably graceless nerds who crawl into your cess spawn filled cup of ladder teamer just to call down everyplayer in the game only to leave it after 20 turns. How hypacritical your post is, ROFL!!
Tommynt Said:
"it was maybe at it s prime time skilled and competetive but there was never respect for other players."
Own your statement Tommy.
Anyways, I really don't understand what you are getting at Earl.
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Post by cryptococcus on Nov 23, 2007 13:02:02 GMT -5
ROFL, another goodbye thread. If you hate civ so much and don't plan to come back, then why have a good bye thread? Btw, don't you only play mods?
Just another person looking for attention.
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Post by zzZhenon on Nov 23, 2007 13:47:12 GMT -5
Some people are too sensitive... just tell them to stfu and threaten to ban them like Levi does... instead of taking it up the arse from jerkoffs. If someone pisses you off DQ them, your point is made. or since you're a euro and loooovveee soccer, give 'em a red card.
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Post by Tony on Nov 23, 2007 17:17:20 GMT -5
ROFL, another goodbye thread. If you hate civ so much and don't plan to come back, then why have a good bye thread? Btw, don't you only play mods? Just another person looking for attention. LOL beat me to saying it! Took the words right outta my mouth.
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Post by Lestat on Nov 23, 2007 17:45:37 GMT -5
ROFL, another goodbye thread. If you hate civ so much and don't plan to come back, then why have a good bye thread? Btw, don't you only play mods? Just another person looking for attention. LOL beat me to saying it! Took the words right outta my mouth. WTFFFF If I would like to say goodbye to mine woumans u will say : U playing only OCC... WTFFFFFFF
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Post by zzZhenon on Nov 23, 2007 18:39:19 GMT -5
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Post by thegreatsatan on Nov 24, 2007 12:11:31 GMT -5
I'm sick of being abused by ladder members whilst just trying to find a game. I can now see why nobody joins ladder these days it's because quite simply you are all arseholes. Nobody wants to play with people like you, people who lie, cheat, quit games, throw insults at each other in the lobby all day and are just generally hostile to everybody. On top of that, when giving up valuable time to run tournaments for people, i've met nothing but hostility from the majority of players, considering that i'm doing a favour for everyone you think people would just lay off, but apparently not. There was a time when ladder members were quite generally a nice bunch of people who would play a game with anyone and most lobby flaming was all in good humour. I think pretty much everybody here needs to grow up and just realise that we're here to have fun and right now, playing with people like you is no fun at all. I love this game so much and have played mp civ for many many years, the attitudes of people in this community have ruined this game for me, and that's just unforgivable. Goodbye, I won't miss you. Hey man, it sucks to see ya go. Its true what you say about the attitude of the civvers today. I bet you feel like a doctor in Canada that gets treated like crap by the lowest of the low because they feel entitled to your services. There are many vet civvers I would describe as PiecesOfnutse. I've seen vet civvers up and quit, cry rivers, and its only gotten worse. I've been playing a lot less myself for these reasons. I love this game too and been playin for years n years. Back in the day, the civ lobby was a much more friendly place.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Nov 24, 2007 12:16:30 GMT -5
Earl is so right, I criticized this "hostile trend" more a year ago multiple times allready. But 0 was done by admins, instead of doing something a total not a very nice person like speaker was made admin. My complaints about rudeness among ladder players were made down by these stupid "looser whines" or "noob" arguments. A game having this big problems as civ4 got can only survive with a "good" community, civ4 community was never good - it was maybe at it s prime time skilled and competetive but there was never respect for other players. I blame admins for doing nothing and some slows who were bad role models for others. Dont tell me u d have acted if u had known - I wrote several reports and examples - never has happened anything. Ladder is dead and main reason is lacking coherence of the community. Bye Earl lol, I'de say you're one of the worst. I've seen you quit and berate people. You've been a POS scence civ 3
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Post by geforced on Nov 25, 2007 3:25:18 GMT -5
There was a time when ladder members were quite generally a nice bunch of people who would play a game with anyone and most lobby flaming was all in good humour. yes maybe in a perfect world, all new players would be welcome in ladder teamers, and dieing to starting units like longbows, wouldn't result in aggressive abuse, far from it, it would result in a kiss and a cuddle, with a geniune "it's alright mate, dont worry, i enjoy wasting my time". i remember back in early vanilla where i couldn't get into ANY ladder teamers, you'd play well in a few ctons and a couple of players in the host room would recommend you, i had to earn my respect as a new player, and took my fair share of abuse. Sooner or later i become one of the top players, and even though some people would give out the password to my games i would still kick them, following abuse about "elite teamers". this was the way i was 'brought up' and i expect them to follow suit. The comment about being a tournament director.. well this isnt aimed directly at you but, you can't have random newbs promote tournaments, if you have the most respected/top players lead the way, everyone else will follow, not so long ago there was talk of some kind of tournament ray wanted to set up, this would of worked because everyone know ray and repsect there skill. I would say bye but i dont recall ever playing with you. ps. thegreatsatan/thejesus, why are you so mad at tommy, sure hes contradicted himself, but everyones been a 'piece of nuts' to you, you sucked in vannilla, you sucked in warlords, now you suck at beyond the sword, was'nt it atomation who made you quit because he told you just how much of a newb you actually are?
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Post by metallian on Nov 25, 2007 4:23:16 GMT -5
Noobs will always be noobs, thanks my saying and I will stick to it. Earl you have always sucked at civ and honestly if you haven't got any better after 2 years of playing the game you may want to take an IQ test because the game isn't that hard. If some players say your a noob you are a noob. Please take the time learn the basics. After every loss I generally look at things I could have differently to avoid the loss. You act as if the Civ3 ladder was healthy?? Are you kidding me dude, Civ 3 MP was a complete joke dude and the players who were playing are terrible gamers, yes terrible gamers. Why this ladder continues to associate itself with civ3 is beyond me. Most ppl have moved on, yet we have admins and tourney directors that haven't. Also, Earl you act as if your a valuable member of the civ4 community, lol? Would the ladder be better off if I left?, Mookie?, Geforced, MLL, aahhhh no ? Seriously no one cares about these threads? It is a pathetic reach for help for the infinite amount of noobness you have shown in your time on the ladder, I think it is. Anyways, the civ4 ladder isn't growing because of the terrible leadership that has taken over after SPM handed his it to CS. I see no growth, I see no vision for Civilization MP, yet we hand our power over to people like CS and DTA who don't know a god damn thing about running a ladder. For godsakes you made levi a damn tourney admin are you kidding me? ?
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Post by eiffel on Nov 25, 2007 8:29:42 GMT -5
I don't think Earl ever claimed to be a Top player, he just says he's seen too much rude behaviour among ladder members and you just prove he's right. And admins and TDs do the hard work... what are the valuable actions you did to the community, metallian ? Bashing noobs ? Playing Elite games with your elite friends ? We sometimes take this too seriously and a "noob" won't improve if everyone just shout at new players. And a noob has the right to play teamers too whatever you think... I think you don't play with new players anymore so no need to be angry at them... btw are you still playing ? If you want to bash me in return, no need, I'm not a top player, will never be even though I've played much, but I'll try and kick some elite ass whenever I can ;D A new ladder system will soon appear thanks to some active players and I hope it will be the begining of a new era for the international ladder.
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Post by zzZhenon on Nov 25, 2007 10:15:09 GMT -5
TGS was theJesus?
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