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Post by 9iron9 on Mar 9, 2007 5:48:49 GMT -5
i think u have a valid point but as you wear a fannypack i can hardly take u seriously. but as you are in the tampax for #1 club i can make an acception, all report to crypto
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Post by Necrominousss on Mar 10, 2007 4:01:59 GMT -5
Ditto that crypto. Non reporters should have there balls fried on the griddle after repeated offenses. Without several people like you, staying on top of things, weeding out the butt-heads, the ladder would really go down hill fast. That's what really matters, having all respect and follow the ladder reporting rules and not quitting.
Also, this poll question is skewed in a way to have people not vote for ladder is fine the way it is and it's still getting big majority in favor.
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Post by MookieNJ on Mar 11, 2007 12:58:15 GMT -5
The ranking system isn't perfect, but who cares? Rank is a function of how often you play against the players with the highest ranks. However, we all have a good idea who the better players are. Stats like win percentage and skill rating provide additional information and usually support our ideas of who the better players are.
In the end, in a perfect world the developers would have spend a little more time on the MP end of Civ4 and included a built-in ranking and stat tracking system. The ladder as it is should exist to run the CCC and other tournaments. However, due to the fact that the developers prefer the SP game we've been forced to improvise and I believe we're doing the best we can.
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Post by ironclad on Mar 11, 2007 20:31:16 GMT -5
yeah beating the same noobs 24/7 should really make you no.1 on ladder
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Post by ironclad on Mar 11, 2007 20:43:38 GMT -5
but seriously why is this even a concern, the game needs improvement not ladder. Timer lag increase, chat bugs, super long refresh on game list... then some gameplay issues. culture bombs, maps, future, prod balacing between eras. Maps probabaly isnt a issue for a majority of the ladder since they play OCC with a corn in every tile which you just irrigate. But for regular civ play maps are too predictable and have perfect land, with exception of fractal. People complain having to 4v1 on fractal though so no one plays that hehe. I think admins know what they are doing(except for speaker).
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Post by Gogf on Mar 12, 2007 21:15:13 GMT -5
A ladder based on skill ranking is stupid, especially for people who play mostly teamers. If you have a high skill rating and lose one teamer, then your skill drops by hundreds of points. Since most good ladder players play primarily teamers, any kind of ladder ranking other than a clan-based one will probably always be totally irrelevant.
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Post by everybodysdarling on Mar 13, 2007 5:09:25 GMT -5
A general question: is the switch to skill rated ladder even possible on cases ladder ?
If so, I support it.
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Post by MMV on Mar 13, 2007 7:38:05 GMT -5
it sure is -
just go to main ladder page and click on "standings" on the left menu
at the top, under "Leaderboards" click on the "Top 50" window
move your cursor down to any of the 4 skill ratings you want to see
click "Display"
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Post by Matlowe on Mar 14, 2007 3:47:35 GMT -5
A ladder change is bs imho it wont be any better than the one we have. Most ladder cant even follow the rules as they are now let alone a whole new change. the ladder would be in chaos.
after a Ladder match people should know to report straight away. there shouldnt be any reason why noone cant report , my first game back i play a 4v4 teamer and have 1 report. i will no doubt get the rest tomorrow as people go to bed and are too lazy to stay up for 2 mins and report a loss the night before. All that needs to be done to this ranking system is for everyone to follow the rules.
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Post by longhorn on Mar 14, 2007 10:12:11 GMT -5
Directly from the rules:
Report Immediately : Losses are to be reported immediately after a game is completed…before any further Ladder matches are started. Not reporting promptly will result in penalty.
OK- I think it is high time this rule is moved to the FOREFRONT. I myself will offer 1-day suspensions (without pay) if I catch any ladder player playing another ladder match before reporting losses. The rule is clear, and its so simple to follow. REPORT immediately after the game!
-LH
PS My favorite way to sort ranks ( and you do have so many options) is LIFETIME ladderbucks, where I consistently rank in the top 25. That my friends is the TRUE definition of a ladder champion!
PPSS If FFH ever becomes a CCC event all you clans but GOD are in real bad trouble!
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Post by MMV on Mar 14, 2007 13:23:24 GMT -5
I catch any ladder player playing another ladder match before reporting losses. The rule is clear, and its so simple to follow. REPORT immediately after the game! Nice to see you admining again there are one HECKUVALOT more problems than that to be dealt with since you're back. also from the rules: Reporting is one minor issue on the ladder - it'd be nice if ALL the rules were enforced as dilligently as you WANT to enfore the "non-report" issue Welcome back
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Post by longhorn on Mar 14, 2007 16:05:25 GMT -5
also from the rules:
Reporting is one minor issue on the ladder - it'd be nice if ALL the rules were enforced as dilligently as you WANT to enfore the "non-report" issue
Welcome back
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Thanks I think, but I haven't gone anywhere. Well I don't know what specific issues you are referring to, although I do give my input on every issue I feel I have any thing to offer. Maybe because my input isn't always published, you think that means I don't listen to what the players have to say- I dunno??
I consistently hear NON-REPORTS as the foremost number one complaint and that is why I have decided to focus my attention on that issue. As to the other issues, alot of them are he said she said issues, but playing another game before reporting - well its easier to catch the perps with the hand in the cookie jar- so to speak.
After cleaning up this issue, then we can move on to some of the others perhaps? Like cleaning up all the offensive ladder names that your pointed out in your quote of the rules ;D
-lh
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Post by MMV on Mar 14, 2007 18:48:59 GMT -5
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Post by tamijo on Mar 16, 2007 9:35:13 GMT -5
FFH2
I know that this is a MOD, but is it a ladder relevant thing ?
Are you even allowed to report this on ladder ?
If yes can you also report other Civ4 related games like Poker and Wolfenstein.
How would anyone suggest that a MOD, very far from the original CIV "universe" would ever be part of CCC
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Post by longhorn on Mar 16, 2007 9:44:15 GMT -5
FFH2 I know that this is a MOD, but is it a ladder relevant thing ? Are you even allowed to report this on ladder ? If yes can you also report other Civ4 related games like Poker and Wolfenstein. How would anyone suggest that a MOD, very far from the original CIV "universe" would ever be part of CCC To answer your questions: Fall from Heaven MOD in CCC was a JOKE, sorry you didnt get it! But, yes, Civ mods can be played as ladder games as long as the players are ladder and they all agree to it. Yes, its still civ, and if you want to count TicTacToe and Tidddlywinks, you need to make them into Civ Mods first. -LH
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Post by Slaughter on Mar 16, 2007 10:27:22 GMT -5
But, yes, Civ mods can be played as ladder games as long as the players are ladder and they all agree to it. Yes, its still civ, and if you want to count TicTacToe and Tidddlywinks, you need to make them into Civ Mods first. ROFL - i'm up for a game of Civ-TicTacToe ... you first ... and don't forget to report ;D
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Post by 9iron9 on Mar 16, 2007 11:14:45 GMT -5
hahah u got to much time slaughter
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Post by DustyDragoon on Mar 17, 2007 0:31:11 GMT -5
That's a great job slaughter, but the "real pro" can do it for tiddleywinks. Are you up for the task or just not that much time on your hands.
PS I want to see them flip ;P
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Post by tamijo on Mar 17, 2007 3:57:07 GMT -5
But, yes, Civ mods can be played as ladder games as long as the players are ladder and they all agree to it. Yes, its still civ, and if you want to count TicTacToe and Tidddlywinks, you need to make them into Civ Mods first. ROFL - i'm up for a game of Civ-TicTacToe ... you first ... and don't forget to report ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D But im still surpriced that a MOD most players on the ladder prob. wont even download. Would count as a ladder game.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Mar 17, 2007 14:20:27 GMT -5
You can play and report basic Civ4 games if you care to play that, we don't tell people what settings or maps or mods they can or can not play on the ladder. But conversely if you agree to a non-standard game, don't complain to the non-report admin that the game was not fair afterwards when you lost CS
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