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Post by zzZhenon on Sept 24, 2006 21:04:46 GMT -5
[rant]
I am absofrigginlutely sick and tired of inland sea. I would rather turn off my computer than play on that tired same old same old BORING map! Where's the random element? Where's the fun? IMHO, the random element made civ3 so addicting. It's actually fun coming in 2nd or 3rd place on a map where you think you would be dead in 40 turns. Or hell, if you're really good and lucky, you may even come in first. It makes victory that much more satisfying.
In this game of exact numbers to the nearest 2nd decimal, we NEED the random element.
Does anyone else feel this way? From now on I refuse to play Inland Sea (unless it's cylindrical). It's absolutely boring.
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Post by zzZhenon on Sept 24, 2006 21:06:50 GMT -5
I guess i'm not done ranting because Inland sea could be so much better if the shape of the damned sea was different or if it had little land bridges or something. Why does the map look the exact same every game??? Not even pangaea looks the same every time.
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Post by zzZhenon on Sept 24, 2006 21:07:33 GMT -5
And yes, if you were wondering, I'm drunk and angry.
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Post by ironclad on Sept 24, 2006 23:18:11 GMT -5
fractal 10 players-large 8 players- standard really fun
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Post by Ellestar on Sept 25, 2006 0:37:21 GMT -5
Cylindrical Inland Sea is much better than a default one. Default Inland Sea map should be banned in ladder ;D fractal 10 players-large 8 players- standard really fun Especially when you start alone on a continent with 5 enemies
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Post by tommynt on Sept 25, 2006 2:32:35 GMT -5
the problem is that there are some guys who cant play anything else
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Post by Atomation on Sept 25, 2006 2:38:45 GMT -5
There aren't very many fair maps in civ4.....inland sea is pretty close. Why the hell would it be satisfying to get first place when you don't play well enough to deserve it? I find it very hard to think it's satisfying....maybe "happy" would be a better adjective, but certainly not satisfying.
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Post by Bantams on Sept 25, 2006 5:16:08 GMT -5
C4F Islands map can be pretty fun especially in Future era in fact most the C4F maps are quite fun
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Post by Speaker on Sept 25, 2006 7:32:14 GMT -5
the problem is that there are some guys who cant play anything else No, the problem is there are some guys who think they have the right to complain about what sort of games other people like to play. Seriously, don't play Inland Sea if you don't like it, but who are you to tell me or anyone else what sort of game I should play?
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Post by Lestat on Sept 25, 2006 7:39:37 GMT -5
I played all but no inland sea. C4FPangea is very funy and u have alot of surprises about position of enemies and u have all anc resources to.
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Post by tommynt on Sept 25, 2006 8:01:59 GMT -5
speaker r u slowed and not able to read?
where do i say u should not play what u want dude? just play 5 inland ren d day and have 155 cavs everytime if u think thats fun
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Post by Ellestar on Sept 25, 2006 8:37:27 GMT -5
Well, i think Inland Sea map is fine but Inland Sea + Great Artist Culture Bomb is retarded. Ban Great Artist Culture Bomb (for any era) and it will be much better.
I think that anything that makes attacking easier makes a game more fun. Culture Bomb makes attacking extremely hard for almost no cost, it's just too powerful for it's price.
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Post by MookieNJ on Sept 25, 2006 12:07:14 GMT -5
Culture bombing comes at more than almost no cost. You're forcing a Philosophical civ to build a useless Theatre or run Caste System. If you want two Artists quick, you're forcing the Phi civ to build 2 useless Theatres or asking a non-Phi civ to build a useless Theatre, and then run 2 Artists and Pacifism to produce a GA. You're giving up an early GE to get Taj the turn you get Nationalism. You're pretty much giving up on getting any GS to rush Education, especially if some of the leftover Artist points in the GP birth pool cause you to get a 3rd GA.
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Post by MookieNJ on Sept 25, 2006 12:10:21 GMT -5
speaker r u slowed and not able to read? where do i say u should not play what u want dude? just play 5 inland ren d day and have 155 cavs everytime if u think thats fun I don't think having 155 Cavs is fun. But a good number of Ren Inland games I play in do end before Mil Trad, or shortly after its discovery ...
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Post by deyreepher on Sept 25, 2006 16:25:38 GMT -5
If you don't have anything constructive to say....don't say it at all.
If you want a random game, play Random Map, Random Era, Random civs, Shuffle teams. Not my idea, it was longhorn's, so give him all the credit for that idea.
Don't play a game where you find a setting or player objectionable. Too damn easy. I see "player X" in a game, I walk right back out. Or a game begins to turn into a bigger teamer that I know I don't have time for, I walk away. The era changes during the time in the staging room, I walk away. Or it turns from a teamer into a cton, I walk away. There is this thing called free will, just go, do your thing.
Well, play Ren on islands then, you host Ellestar. An artist bomb will practically do nothing on that map. 155 Cavs....unstoppable, but you can sink the ships they'd be sailing on.
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Post by civerdan on Sept 26, 2006 14:43:04 GMT -5
Inland sea is fine in Future. I agree in Ren it has become a bit worn out. It has become a game decided by who has the new player in front, and what side gives more support. After that whoever gets to Liberism first generally wins. If a front turns into a stalemate what happens is both side just taunt each other with huge catapult stacks.
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Post by geforced on Feb 5, 2007 5:44:32 GMT -5
inland sea is only as boring as you make it..
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Post by smatt834 on Feb 5, 2007 11:19:27 GMT -5
ha ha speaker sucks
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Post by tamijo on Feb 5, 2007 11:26:31 GMT -5
If teamer, well yes other maps better, but in CTON inland sea is the best map.
Try maze btw
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Post by smatt834 on Feb 5, 2007 11:38:18 GMT -5
i think the point wasn't wether inland sea was a 'good and fair' map. the point was that its OVERPLAYED and getting old. heck it was that way almost a year ago already. It looks like when I get my new wireless connection on wednesday the ladder is something I won't be playing on. look for me in the ffa non-ladder games if you think you got skillz. no speakers allowed.
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