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Post by brancius on Sept 8, 2006 7:26:35 GMT -5
Hello C4P Players and admins Last March we created a really cool and successfull international tourney for Civilization 4. The goal was to have a tourney with the best players from various ladders to find the cIV Champions League Champion! The participating players was coming from 4 european ladders; Germany, Poland, France and Italy. Now the 2nd Edition is coming and we created more slots for this tourney. We have with the 4 former Ladders now also the russian ladder included and also 2 players from the croatian Civ Community. We have in the end now 6 Slots free for international players and we thought it would be great to get also from C4P, which is the bigest Ladder Worldwide the best players to participate this very special Tourney. Here a Slide with all the important informations around the 2.CCL: If you are interested to join this tourney, you will have to pass the international qualifications which will take place on Sunday, September 17. Please post here if you are interested in it. Of course we would be happy to find your BEST players joining this tournament. You dont play for a Clan, you play as individual player for your home-country:)
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Post by Canucksoldier on Sept 8, 2006 15:23:28 GMT -5
Brancius, proboards doesn't support attachments directly, if you email me the file I can host it and link it into your post. My email is csoldier@telus.net
CS
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Post by Gogf on Sept 8, 2006 15:56:31 GMT -5
Maybe some of us might join if you hadn't trash-talked us on CivFanatics .
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Post by brancius on Sept 13, 2006 9:37:41 GMT -5
Yes I criticised(don't know if the spelling's right) some settings (130 turns, civ speed fast, timer blazing) and after CanuckSoldier showed me your World of Civ-playing I understand you better. Every day is a day to learn In the “Old-Europe” or lets say in those ladders we are from many players like to play Civ more with full options, like the full game till a victory condition is fulfilled. Many also like the game in the “Real Turn based mode” to avoid random “fast move” actions which is not Civ. I understand that your league is based on making many short games in many different settings, which is also an understandable setting. The CCL is this year a long term game for Civ enjoyers. One game will last 6-8 hours and players have to meet twice in two weeks for each 4 hours playing. We know it’s not a great setting for many of you, but that even no-one wants to play from you guys is really a pity. I thought there are 600 players+ playing in your league, I am kind of disappointed that admins are not supporting tournaments from outside C4P. We are enough players anyway, I just wanted to bring also some colour in the tournament with players from around the world. I don't know, but I am 100% sure there are players also from C4P who are waiting for a tournament like this and if there is someone here with the right contacts he should definetely forward this information.
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Post by Atomation on Sept 13, 2006 14:44:40 GMT -5
I have no problem playing games that are split up over multiple days. I have suggested it to other ladder players here, but no one was ever interested and thought it was too much trouble. I also like the long reaching games, but I have to say that the renaissance start games with few turns are much more addictive once you get the hang of them. The problem with this tournament for us is that not so many players are as open minded as I am about playing on such settings, and very few have the ability to apply what they know to settings foreign to them, so if you really wish to have a competitive game with our league you should also learn and play us on our settings (Rennaissance teamers 90 turns fast game speed fast timer being the most prevalent).
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Post by tommynt on Sept 13, 2006 15:00:09 GMT -5
whats the point of a 8 hour noob bashing?
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Post by Bantams on Sept 13, 2006 16:50:58 GMT -5
whats the point of a 8 hour noob bashing? ;D lmfao
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Post by deyreepher on Sept 13, 2006 20:12:18 GMT -5
whats the point of a 8 hour noob bashing? Because you love it.
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Post by mrgametheory on Sept 13, 2006 23:45:44 GMT -5
Tommy beat me to saying it You pick the best two-three non ladder players on this earth and I will challenge them to an epic 2v1 - 3v1 and we see who comes out on top... And if you think that we lose out because we are not participating in negotiation and trade as often, you put me in a room with the 7 best non ladder players with unanomous names for us all and ill trade them all out of house and home and convience them all to suicide at one another....
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Post by brancius on Sept 14, 2006 2:53:06 GMT -5
whats the point of a 8 hour noob bashing? I guess it's the same point like for you a rush game on 80 turns... To clarify our players as noobs is pretty naiv but have it. Just think the world is big out there and there are thousands of MP civ players, and the best are not only playing in your ladder there.
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Post by brancius on Sept 14, 2006 3:30:37 GMT -5
I have no problem playing games that are split up over multiple days. I have suggested it to other ladder players here, but no one was ever interested and thought it was too much trouble. I also like the long reaching games, but I have to say that the renaissance start games with few turns are much more addictive once you get the hang of them. The problem with this tournament for us is that not so many players are as open minded as I am about playing on such settings, and very few have the ability to apply what they know to settings foreign to them, so if you really wish to have a competitive game with our league you should also learn and play us on our settings (Rennaissance teamers 90 turns fast game speed fast timer being the most prevalent). Ok, thank you for your wise words We just don't play this settings (90 turns) because we like to play Civ in a more full version with victory conditions, etc pp. For many players its better to play one full game then 3 short ones. Having fun while playing means not for everyone the same, I respect all the settings people like and everyone should play how he/she wishes.
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Post by Ellestar on Sept 14, 2006 7:53:30 GMT -5
whats the point of a 8 hour noob bashing? I guess it's the same point like for you a rush game on 80 turns... To clarify our players as noobs is pretty naiv but have it. Just think the world is big out there and there are thousands of MP civ players, and the best are not only playing in your ladder there. Then they may come and play a duel vs a tommynt. Average time is about 35 turns i think (on quick) when you play 1v1 vs tommynt so there is no need for 8 hours anyway ;D I guess tommynt will agree to play a showmatch with a champion of your tournament. Besides, your last champion didn't show much in our ladder and he lost twice to tommynt in a settings similar to your tournament. And after that you say that our best players must play with a non-seeded players for the right to play in a main tournament. Bleh. Also, as i understand you don't know anything about a competitive gaming. If all these thousands don't practice with good players, then they'll lose anyway. It's a very simple law that works in any multiplayer game. No other league has as many good players as our ladder. So, our best players are better as a result.
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Post by brancius on Sept 14, 2006 10:03:20 GMT -5
I guess it's the same point like for you a rush game on 80 turns... To clarify our players as noobs is pretty naiv but have it. Just think the world is big out there and there are thousands of MP civ players, and the best are not only playing in your ladder there. Then they may come and play a duel vs a tommynt. Average time is about 35 turns i think (on quick) when you play 1v1 vs tommynt so there is no need for 8 hours anyway ;D I guess tommynt will agree to play a showmatch with a champion of your tournament. Besides, your last champion didn't show much in our ladder and he lost twice to tommynt in a settings similar to your tournament. And after that you say that our best players must play with a non-seeded players for the right to play in a main tournament. Bleh. Also, as i understand you don't know anything about a competitive gaming. If all these thousands don't practice with good players, then they'll lose anyway. It's a very simple law that works in any multiplayer game. No other league has as many good players as our ladder. So, our best players are better as a result. No one said here that tommynt is not a good player or anything. If you read it maybe you would see that HE said there are only noobs out there in the World. And, btw, after 2500 games on this settings what tommynt plays its not a wonder he wins after 30 turns, lol. Why are you guys attacking me here anyway, I've made a very huge work to make this tournament happening. I was in straight contact to all the admins of those ladders who participate, I had to use all my language and negotiating skills and I got from all the Ladders positive answers. Hey just try to enjoy the game more, its not the number of games, no its the deepness of playing. Like one of your members here said already; there are players who wish also to play full civ with victory conditions but he has to be almost scared here to say it, people would look at him and say: Hey what are you for stupid guy who plays 8 hours on this game? And btw, don't you have a competition called "Ironman" where players also play longer?
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Post by Bantams on Sept 14, 2006 10:16:20 GMT -5
some of us do play 8 hour games regular we call them EPICS check the epics section
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Post by mrgametheory on Sept 14, 2006 10:44:53 GMT -5
Don't you understand that we are bitter and angry thats why we attack you Anyways, I think that the best way to go about your tournament is this. You host this tournament and whoever comes in first place will be allowed to join our ladder and we will give them a "7 day get out of being called a newb pass."
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Post by deyreepher on Sept 14, 2006 13:09:33 GMT -5
Damn, you fools are so cold. Cold indeed. Or it could be that I've left the windows open for the past two weeks as the temperature has dropped a steady 20 degrees Fahrenheit over the past two weeks. I feel cold now, but not as cold as you people. So cold.
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Post by venceslas on Sept 14, 2006 15:00:20 GMT -5
The image of the c4f league will be greatly "increased" in many forums thanks to this topic. Hope people will read also the atomation post which is much more intelligent that some really ashame post.
You are so arrogant... especially mrgametheory.
chris.
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Post by churchill1 on Sept 14, 2006 15:11:08 GMT -5
You are so arrogant... especially mrgametheory. Yup. MGT is arrogance personified. But no-one takes it seriously and therefore it's pretty hilarious.
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Post by churchill1 on Sept 14, 2006 15:12:16 GMT -5
Then they may come and play a duel vs a tommynt. Average time is about 35 turns i think (on quick) when you play 1v1 vs tommynt so there is no need for 8 hours anyway ;D I guess tommynt will agree to play a showmatch with a champion of your tournament. Ellestar - Tommynt's PR agent. ;D
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Post by venceslas on Sept 14, 2006 15:13:04 GMT -5
Well, I have already read some funny sentences on the french forum, assume that the german forum and the others have the same thing.
Last time Tommynt has played the 1v1 in the CCC he has lost in 20 turns against Matth(the winner of the first CCL).
Well last time I played Tommynt, he killed me in 30 turns.
In the ladder web page I have read:
"Our members are Civ fans who agree to play fairly, respect others"
If you want other people join your ladder, seems some people have needed to learn what "respect others" means.
chris.
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