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Post by Sidhe on Feb 19, 2006 16:51:40 GMT -5
Game I specificaly said I would not judge you in my post having never played with you, nothin I said was directed at you ok. Only at others.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 19, 2006 17:04:58 GMT -5
In no particular order:- 1: Eiffel who's just crept in there, about time 2: Donald Kipper(amazingly good player where has he gone?) 3: Dr shot, makes me look like a noob every time I play with him 4: Fried( OK experience but we're talking about good not conditional good) 5: CS also not the best player in the world but he impressed me in any game I'm in, mostly a c3c attitude but mah 6: Islandia who was out of the top ten when I made that comment 7: Nero, that man is just too damn good for the experience he's got, he amazes me 8: Red yeah sorry Red phoenix is pretty good, I apologise 9: Sir party man, it's not about who you play with it's about watching the way the guy plays, he seems to do well(probably experience but nm) 10: erm toss up so many good players, probably the late GMT Russians or middle East players, I'm talking about ctons and versatility, not just the staid teamer crowd, don't get me wrong the top ten is good just not the best I've seen, I'm going on experience here and just some damn fine incredible play. Germania: solid player: Siberian wookie probably the best post industrial player I've seen, get your heads out of the renaissance, some damn good players out there if you want to mix it up a bit. Of course tommyny would be in top 10 but his experience fails to get him up there, I'm talking about players ATM, who just make you go WTF!!! I base my case on just sheer brilliance from day 1 which is why Red makes it, the guy impresses me every time I play with him, his first game he played like a pro. Now that's some fine ass play. OK experience and balancing that with the way they play, you can debate it all you want but there are some just damn fine, inovative players, regardless of experience ;D
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Post by arma on Feb 19, 2006 17:18:21 GMT -5
The only thing I can't figure out is if everyone was playing so poorly, how did your team overcome tommy and redphoenix? 20 bucks meester theory believes it was him. I have done sum lookin round this forum readin up on how thins work ere, an in doin so I have found what your problem is meester theory. Your self-love is so HUUUUGE that u have no introspection. You canna imagine anything being your fault cos u are SO great. So many posts on calling people cheaters reminded me in that game when U kept thinkin we were gonna lose you kept makin excuses that tommynt was a known cheater and tellin me everyone knows he cheats, an uses hacks, and even fog hacks. If u r so worried about n00bies getting unfair impressions of people mebbe you should try take a lesson from that and not go to such effort to spread such things without proof. U may be right about tommy for all I know, but when I asked if u knew for sure u didn't answer cept with more accusations. But its yur whole attitude. U r very rude and show no respect to peeps cos if u dun know em, they must be worthless. Well I can tell U that no n00b will have any fun in yur game unless they ignore U and take pleasure from watching u scream and hissy fit like a 3 yr old who dun get her lollypop. Yur opening posts starts with calling me audacious, for daring to question you lol. Think of the hide of me. You. I mean questioning YOU! Someone alert the media. Well when I say dun take so serious, I dun mean not to care whether u win or lose. I mean dun put winning ahead of showing respect and all having a good time. I am champion of n00bs everywhere. Cos we are da champions. No time for looooooossers, cos we are da champions... of da world! OMFGWABBQ!
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 19, 2006 17:24:26 GMT -5
The only thing I can't figure out is if everyone was playing so poorly, how did your team overcome tommy and redphoenix? Teamwork Madre de dios, are you listening?
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Post by Ascension/Necrominous on Feb 19, 2006 20:01:23 GMT -5
MGT stated that arma was not assisting his teammates when MGT was getting double teamed and was not taking direction. Do you ever get it right genius??
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Post by arma on Feb 19, 2006 22:03:14 GMT -5
MGT stated that arma was not assisting his teammates when MGT was getting double teamed and was not taking direction. Do you ever get it right genius?? An Arma already stated he was flat out fighting Tommy from word go and one single HA of Tommys fleeing into meester theories cushy pocket does not count as 2v1. Despite this, and unrelated to meester theories pushy, unreasonable, and strategically suicidal demands, Arma still maintained pursuit with one spear out of good manners. Mebbe you are not so much genius yourself
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Post by Ascension/Necrominous on Feb 20, 2006 3:09:28 GMT -5
Just paraphrased what I thought GMT said. I made no reference that it was fact. Why do you think I asked him how his team possible won?
Sidme's a genius because MGT is stating there's no teamwork and you also lead the reader to believe you two were definitely not working together. Sidme asked "are you listen". Yes, I listened to both arma and MGT claim there wasn't any cooperations. What do you know, Sidme has no idea what he's talking about again.
Correct, I'm no genius, fairly uneducated as a matter of fact but I can understand basic English, I think. If I'm wrong, please, by all means, enlighten the readers of how you and MGT put your heads together and came up with the master plan of amazing "teamwork" and executed it to bring Tommy and Redphoenix down.
The more I see you write the more I can understand why MGT would get frustrated though. This post started out innocent enough with an excited noob telling his story. How nice, but now I wonder if those wins didn't go straight to your head. I hope you either are good or get good because you're seeming more egotistical than MGT at the moment.
I'd appreciate hearing form others in the teamer. This is starting to get interesting. Need some more eye witness testimony to get to the bottom of this.
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Post by tommynt on Feb 20, 2006 4:36:21 GMT -5
Guys neither red nor me are unbeatable, thats it
In fact this game the guy postedf about was just a bit unbalanced in others teams direction form turn 1
2 good palyers + 2 noobs < 4 good at least decent players
in fact did many players catch up latly very much espacially in ancient teamers - so it s very hard to beat people who can build up allone while getting choked yourself or try to choke others. This brings up another problem - 1 stupid (big)misstake from a team member can decide a game as its just so hard to make up - so noobs in team are a even bigger problem
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 20, 2006 5:49:05 GMT -5
There are also some really bad team players who seem to think that leading the strategy is about how loud you can shout, can't comment on game directly never played with him. Game I specificaly said I would not judge you in my post having never played with you, nothin I said was directed at you ok. Only at others. Do you Genius? I allready said I wasn't referring to him twice. Will you stop spouting your hate filled monologues on every thread like some gormless automaton? No probably not? Making yourself look stupid, by make widely innacurate and biased statements are your forte
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Post by friedrichpsitalon on Feb 20, 2006 9:09:33 GMT -5
First, last, only warning:
Debate civilly, or you won't debate at all. For one of you, that means the suspension could last for quite some time.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 20, 2006 9:55:58 GMT -5
Have you seen what this guy has been saying about me in the off topic section. Why hasn't he been banned already? Im not immature enough to respond to him in that thread? Now I know your probably itching for an excuse to give me a long suspension but damn it, you've really let your admin duties slide if you consider the hate filled threads about me and rants are apropriate ways for forum members to behave. There is something rotten in the state of Denmark methinks? Ban him now before he gets really crazy? Kinda reminds me of Umbra's rants Not a criticism just a sugestion but do you really want to allow this sort of flaming to go unchecked? This guy seems to be trying to see how far he can push the envelope before he gets banned he's already called me and Dusty Dragoon idiots?
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Post by arma on Feb 20, 2006 10:41:13 GMT -5
Haha necro, hmm... yes, i can see how not everything should appear to be adding up so well here. I end this then an try an make explanation to clear it all. Will be long post, but consider it fast forwarding this thread one week of time lol. First though, I think it is mebbe unfair that tommy say his team = 2 good + 2 noob since guy called Humpfry in his team was rank 20. This I think gets to core of problem supposed elite playerz is having here. This game is too new for the goodz to be so biased against new faces like they are. When I posted this thread, it is truly no misrepresentation. With what I think is thousands of playerz on ladder, I was very excited to have got so miraculous lucky to have played a game I knew nooone but turned out most werein top 20 (turned out in end to be 1,2, 20 + other outside 50, vs what was 4, 12, me at like 103, + other outside 50). It was my 4th MP game of any civ ever. I guess that makes me n00b. Certainly all treat my unknown name as nobody, booted from several ladder game because peeps say I am noone. Though it does not mean I am crapola player. Noneless, I expected it would be like RTS gaming - though I can smash comp on Immortal, I would be useless compared with experienced MP gamers. Apparantly not fully the case in Civ. I have had now exactly 9 MP games of Civ4 - 5 more since start thread. 1 team gamer, 2 1on1s, 5 FFA ctons. Opponents include other people ranked in 50 like svekining, aviree, c_murda, antointhe, etc. Decent playerz to my eye, made for fun games, but I have won all of em and not yet with any threat of losing with 23 straight wins or something excluding something like 5 or 6 people have now not reported. If u can see hassle I had with settings, can imagine screenshot reporting is something I have been slow to uptake (have filed my 1st non-reported win from last match 10 mins ago!). Also, because I enjoy game to be pretty with default settings, and cos I have no interest in elite MP techniques to steal order of players acting in turn or make capital of other game bugs, I seem to be considered uber n00b. I say fine, and am happy to play along. I dun expect to win, specially against peeps using every trick in book, but is harsh when I say to peeps like Satdive that no no, really, I can make good fight for you and they leave room in protest cos no want play with n00bs. There should be no predjudices against any playerz so early methinks. Mebbe in one year will be different story. Meester theory comes into this cos I forgot name, but his attitude was so irritating I wanted to know who and figured he would be known by traits and so he was. Good playas so stuck up own butt that they try micro-manage teamers make game much less than fun for teamers. Didn't mean we didn't play as team. Several things he demanded I did, not cos he pushed but cos I was already doing anyway cos was good for team. I actually did a few things he demanded at start of game cos I had faith an was being polite, but realised he was crippling my ability to defend with his decisions cos he made assumption I had no idea and his captaining decisions were made on basis that he is so uber that if he is slung we will win. Strategically, if there is gonna be slinging, it should be reverse - pockets slinging the front line players. On top, his many accusations enemy was cheating was ultra irritating cos its setting up excuse that if we lose, it's not our fault + other whining like 2v1 on top of trying to micromanage put me in such foul mood that when agro started over my animations, all I wanted to do was pull plug. I stuck it out only cos I hate quitters worse than pushy playas and I owed it to Wills good game not to cost him what had become a clear win position for our team. We won the game cos of overall good teamwork (in spite of AGTs orders), most especially from TX Will who was player of the match, pumping points when he should, and taking role of johnny on the spot. Theory doubtfully even aware that I stopped 3 separate gamewinning invasion forces, luring one in by tricking enemy into thinking I was moving my main army to another front and they took bait. There u have it. Life the universe and everything. Thread fast forwarded 1 week in 1 post. I am 1 week old n00b who makes many mistakes, but it turns out in the end that you are basically all just n00bs too Noone should be grandstanding here, and noone yet has any fair claims to justify an ego yet, and noone should be booting players cos they are 'unknown', or pushing them around when u do play. BBQ is over. My song is complete.
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Post by armageddon1 on Feb 20, 2006 11:03:08 GMT -5
there's another armageddon out there?
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Post by salqadri on Feb 20, 2006 14:18:41 GMT -5
*sigh*. Im exhausted. What a long post! I think I need some rest. Maybe a glass of water too.
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Post by Craigbob on Feb 20, 2006 15:13:04 GMT -5
4: Fried( OK experience but we're talking about good not conditional good) Yeah, Fried does have limited experience, borderline noob. Five bucks to whoever can pinpoint the exact post which changed this thread from "annoying" to "short bus slowed". EDIT: lol, "slowed", this filter has unintentional comedy written all over it.
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Post by Ascension/Necrominous on Feb 20, 2006 22:29:13 GMT -5
Fried, suspend/ban me if you wish but lets notice who commented on the others quote first.(see 2-19-06 time 16:24) If someone wants to question my comments I'm more than likely going to respond especially when I feel the person is completely off base like some of the same people always seem to be.
I thought we had settled this in another thread. Sidme claimed he was going to stop responding. He did in the thread but then decided to send me a personal email which I will more than likely copy paste to the Off Topic thread now.(never mind I see they moved on in that post now and it's not that important) I have made it a point not to comment on anything Sidme has written in other post since then but he decided to take a jab at me here, followed up by his little helper arma.
Concerning Dustydragon. He is a grown man who decide he wanted to join in the fun. I'm sure a man of his maturity should know that a person has to live the consequences of their actions. Again I was merely responding. Also my quote was "two dumb noobs vs necro, finally a fair fight". As far as insulting comments go that's like getting tickled with a feather.
By the way Sidme, you can't gave as good as you get and then expect only me to get banned. But I'm not sure I'd consider your dialog as giving as good as you've gotten. Yea Fried, I probably should be suspended. At this point it's starting to feel like kicking a helpless baby. I suddenly feel ashamed and am thinking I need a one week suspension to reflect on what I have done.
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Post by Ascension/Necrominous on Feb 20, 2006 22:34:11 GMT -5
Now let's get back on topic.
Hmmm, the plot thickens, we have two players on one team saying they were both getting 2v1 and Tommy saying there were 2 supreme noobs contributing very little along with Red on the other team. Any chance one these so called noobs want to come forward to shine some more light on the subject.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 21, 2006 4:18:22 GMT -5
That's the point I didn't and wont lower myself to your level. nuff said.
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Post by Atomation on Feb 21, 2006 15:53:29 GMT -5
Tommy/phoenix lost because it was ancient, and ancient has a much quicker learning curve than the later eras. Lot's of people can play adequately on ancient now - hell it isn't that hard. I bet you wouldn't have beaten them on ren.
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Post by tommynt on Feb 22, 2006 12:00:00 GMT -5
u really care?
I got 78% winning that means i loss a bit more as every 5th game - so I lost this and won 4 others - not a big miracle
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