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Post by markweston on Feb 19, 2006 9:07:48 GMT -5
Nah. There are several team-games started evey day from the GS lobby if you're around, and a large pool of players who would rather play those than anything else. I rarely have trouble finding one or getting into one. Of course, atm everyone's playing Renaissance so if you want another era you may have to work a bit harder. But my bet is if you start a game and call it "Ladder Teamer" or something similar, they will come.
Your only problem will be having to deal politely with the narrow-minded ones who assume that anyone they haven't played before must be a stupid noob and not worth playing (it's a great catch that catch-22).
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 19, 2006 10:36:25 GMT -5
Yeah I was being somewwhat Ironic but I like Magzi live in the GMT timezone and I always seem to miss them, when I get into the lobby there's nothing but ctons and the like. I have played 1 ren teamer in about a month, so I can understand where she's coming from? I'm stuck with the pointless buildfest anc ctons at the moment. Boo hoo roll on the patch
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Post by deviousdevil on Feb 19, 2006 15:38:08 GMT -5
Yeah I was being somewwhat Ironic but I like Magzi live in the GMT timezone and I always seem to miss them, when I get into the lobby there's nothing but ctons and the like. I have played 1 ren teamer in about a month, so I can understand where she's coming from? I'm stuck with the pointless buildfest anc ctons at the moment. Boo hoo roll on the patch I get plenty of teamer action and I'm in the GMT timezone...
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 19, 2006 17:17:40 GMT -5
I guess everyone hates me then like necrosanctimonius says
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Post by Ellestar on Feb 20, 2006 1:23:38 GMT -5
Yeah I was being somewwhat Ironic but I like Magzi live in the GMT timezone and I always seem to miss them, when I get into the lobby there's nothing but ctons and the like. I have played 1 ren teamer in about a month, so I can understand where she's coming from? I'm stuck with the pointless buildfest anc ctons at the moment. Boo hoo roll on the patch I'm in GMT +3 time zone. Well, during weekends there are 2-3 lobby ladder teamers going just about all the time. If you have the most active ladder players in friends list in the lobby, then you can check how many of teamers are going and when they started. You just look in the ladder page and check time since the last game for several players in that teamer. If it's 0.0 then teamer just started. If it's 0.2 or more for everyone then probably it will end really soon and a new one will form. During workdays there is one "invite only" DirectIP top player teamer going (it's easy to check it as well, "Daily Results" + "Standings->Top Fifty"). Since they don't have enough players themselves (at least, during GMT +3 prime time), they invite other players as well that further reduces a lobby team player reserves. So maybe there will be one lobby ladder teamer if you're lucky (after all, you're in GMT +0 time zone so you have more chances to find a teamer than me).
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Post by tommynt on Feb 20, 2006 4:39:57 GMT -5
I said allready in another thread that your statement isnt true sidhe - top player games arent that private - believe it or not
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Post by Magzi on Feb 20, 2006 4:57:20 GMT -5
Well, I'm getting lots of invites into teamers now Thanks guys.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 20, 2006 5:44:45 GMT -5
I said allready in another thread that your statement isnt true sidhe - top player games arent that private - believe it or not Yeah we said as much, sorry for the confusion; I still think you should invite a few noobs into your games 1 on each side though as a sort of punishment for being top ten Best way to make teamers take on more "noobs", fire out an accusation of being elitist obviously ;D hehe
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Post by salqadri on Feb 20, 2006 14:14:47 GMT -5
Sidhe respect is given based on rank. If some new noob, reaches say rank 25 or so, then that person will easily get a chance to play with the top-10.
Ofcourse playing a teamer with highest rank 500 is stupidity because you'll take the fun out of the noob is on the front and dies.
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Post by Midgard on Feb 20, 2006 16:00:01 GMT -5
I'm ranked in the 600's I must be a newb
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Post by agent_x7 on Feb 20, 2006 19:11:02 GMT -5
I think basing game on rank is really bullnuts, ladder rank is too easy to climb. I went from mid 300s to #21 in 5 days. I think you should consider the number of games the person has played, a person who has played 300 game but has a rank of 400 is better than someine who has played 10 games but is #50.
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Post by salqadri on Feb 20, 2006 19:34:55 GMT -5
I find Highest Rank is a decent measure, and gets better the higher up the ladder you go. Those that have reached rank 1 for example, really are good players.
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Post by Atomation on Feb 20, 2006 22:14:55 GMT -5
What's wrong with climbing the ladder in 5 days? Assuming no one has two accounts, I can't find anything wrong with it. If someone does, they probably deserve their rank, or if they don't, the ladder will automatically derank them over time as they stop winning against people higher than them. I think the ladder system is awesome and probably one of the best I've found. The only thing that annoys me is that you have to stay 100% active to maintain your rank without any leeway. Some sort of averaging process to keep higher rank with 2 -3 days off would be nice, but oh well, at least its pretty easy to reclaim the rank if you decline from inactivity.
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Post by Ellestar on Feb 21, 2006 2:22:08 GMT -5
oh well, it might be better to learn basics yourself then to advise others to do By the way... So far i played 5 games in front on Renessance/Inland Sea (if i didn't forgot something). In a first game i chocked Islandia. Well, actually i didn't burn his 2nd city when he has 2 cities only because i made a critical micromanagement mistake (i tried to move units several seconds before the end of turn but focus switched to a far away worker so i was late by half a second to move one of the two units, i checked save later to be sure). Still, i burned one of his cities later and we were leading by tech (i had 180 research/turn as well while on front line). His north ally lost a city as well and after that they were killed with galleons. I'll tell about my 2nd game (which you refer to) in the end. In a 3rd game on the front on Ren/Inland i was against Tricky. I was 1vs2 (i didn't need help anyway), Tricky got help as early as 1250 ad - 1st musketer from his ally was in his capital, there was a road between him and his 2nd line ally, they tried to counter-choke, and he died anyway to some cats/maceman/musketman. In a 4th game i was against StoneDGoD. He chocked me somewhat (but not good enough, i still had 2 forward cities) and tried to press me early. I got about 5 Knights from my 2nd line ally, 3-4 were in first stack among my units (1st city burned) and remaining Knights were in a 2nd stack that finished his forward city what was cut from any possible reinforcements by a 1st stack. 2 cities burned, gg. His ally who was behind also died as well thanks to a cossacks i got from my ally. In a 5th game i was against [TX]Agentk. He planted one of his cities 2 squares away from my stack (that stack still has one move left so that city burned on the next turn). I got 2-3 Knights, horses, iron and some mushkets from NapalmNow (who still was 1st in score and research). After that, i kept one stack near his capital while ~4 Knights burned one of his south cities in the back line. Unfortunately, i lost a stack near capital when he noticed knights and i decided to push both sides at the same time, but at least he wasn't able to reinforce south that way. Sweviking who was behind was dead almost immediately after [TX]Agentk, he wasn't able to handle 6 knights well (though he killed 2). Both said that i was lucky ;D Well i said that i'm a Lucky Noobâ„¢ a long time ago so it isn't news to me ;D Now, back to the 2nd game. In a 2nd game you refer to i made 2 serious mistakes. But i didn't recieve any help from you AT ALL. In EVERY other game i played on Ren/Inland/Frontline either me or my opponent got help when in need. But you just planted 10 cities. And i know why it was that way. You had a negative altitude toward me even before the game. When you saw that i was in trouble you just kept planting cities and narcissically watched your score growing so to calm your ego in case of defeat. And you got exactly what you wanted. In the end, i killed 3 horse archers, 3 knights and 3 war charriots without any significant losses and they still had 3 knights, 2 maceman and 9 (NINE!) catapults. You said that i am a noob. Yeah, sure, whatever you need to save your precious ego. BTW you didn't said anything when one our city was lost on the south where were 2 top players what always play with you in teamers. There were 2 of them close to each other, they defended together, they lost a city long before me and you didn't say anything about them... So far it's 4 vs 1 score for me. Maybe there was one more game i forgot, but that means that my ally died too early in that game and we surrendered so i don't remember that game, there were some games like that. And i lost the only one where you, tommynt, was behind me and i was 1vs2 (well, to be fair, without 2 mistakes i made i proably shouldn't have died). At that time you was angry because you lost several teamers in a row because of noobs (c)tommynt, but still it wasn't a good enough reason to just watch and do nothing.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 21, 2006 4:13:58 GMT -5
You guys are basing anything on rank . Gotta be the most meaningless stat of them all? Oh well never mind. Rank is a matter of who you play and how often you play nothing more nothing less. I wonder how many times I have to say this before it sinks in? You might as well base who you play on no. of games played in the last month.
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Post by markweston on Feb 21, 2006 9:07:00 GMT -5
No Sidhe, rank is a matter of who you beat and how often you beat them. A fairly crucial difference.
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Post by tommynt on Feb 21, 2006 10:29:49 GMT -5
mark dont try to take sidhe serious
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Post by Hombre on Feb 21, 2006 11:13:51 GMT -5
Thats a point that any1 has talked about and I consider it really important. One player can be an experto on ctons and non teamers games, but he can be a bad layer in teamers. Its easy to play a teamer and just build and increase population cause your frontline dont allow any troop reach your land. But when 1 player dies in a teamer I consider it a mistake of the whole team, not just the one who dies. In teamers the frontline civ has to prepare for a 2v1 or 3v1, that never happend i ctons, so military is even more important.
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Post by Atomation on Feb 21, 2006 15:37:48 GMT -5
In cton I usually go 4v1 or 5v1 towards the end. I guess it just depends on your rank. In teamers high ranks and low ranks can play together without high ranks fearing being mass ganged by all the low ranks that want to get free points. Really not fun for the high rank player.
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Post by Sidhe on Feb 21, 2006 18:05:23 GMT -5
No Sidhe, rank is a matter of who you beat and how often you beat them. A fairly crucial difference. And of course how do you get to play the best on a regular basis? I can't for the life of me, neither can Yumpak? Riddle me that Batman In fact I never get to play high ranked players, not in teamers not in ctons? It's not that I care I'm just saying if you're lucky enough to be in say player a's clan you get plenty of rank or circle of friends or timezone, if you're not forget about it. I haven't played anyone above the rank of 50 in well over a month? Do I care no, but there are people who play in the inner circle regularly who bleat about rank, and we all know why they are there. Me I'm happy being sub 100, no pressure and no cares. Will I stay there of course, wont get invited to play with the big boys, not there at the right time/moment. Which is why my top 10 contains very few of the top 10, and which is why if you realise it, the ladder rank is inconsistent to say the least.
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