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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 27, 2005 23:28:00 GMT -5
Kaak didn't play civ3 because he thought it was a piece of nuts just like me. lol In fact, he thinks civ4 will be horrible and not worth playing but I'm trying to get him to try it out. Well you guys always have the option of staying in the past and play Civ2 to your hearts content, it was a great game in it's time, and Civ3 didn't give me the same "just one more turn" syndrome that Civ2 did fo sure, but CIV has that, I've played test games to find a specific bug..and ended up playing SP games for 4 hours...pretty good for a carreer MPer. CS
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Post by StarlightDeath on Oct 27, 2005 23:28:17 GMT -5
Civ2 was too easy to get to the top. My favorite part of the process is finding new ways to play so I hope that is the case. I just want the game to have the capability to allow me to rise far above everyone else like I did in civ2. hehehe And it looks like I'm still good at getting topics big in a hurry.
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Post by StarlightDeath on Oct 27, 2005 23:30:01 GMT -5
Nah, I haven't played civ2 really seriously in years. i played a string of games with kaak over the summer and some others, but that's about the extent of my play in civ2. I've actually been busy enjoying being a top US player in Age of empires 2:TC for the past 3 years.
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 27, 2005 23:32:05 GMT -5
Well the game will let you become good...as to rising above the rest...well time will tell, I think you will find the competition a little tougher than in the Civleague days though.
CS
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Post by Canucksoldier on Oct 27, 2005 23:33:23 GMT -5
Nah, I haven't played civ2 really seriously in years. i played a string of games with kaak over the summer and some others, but that's about the extent of my play in civ2. I've actually been busy enjoying being a top US player in Age of empires 2:TC for the past 3 years. Ick.....RTS....the biggest oxymoron there is!....in my opinion ofcourse CS
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Post by StarlightDeath on Oct 27, 2005 23:36:07 GMT -5
Yeah there's not much strategy, but interestingly I was able to apply alot of the things I learned from RTS's into civ and I think it's going to help me alot in civ4 too.
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Post by Cruise on Oct 28, 2005 3:58:51 GMT -5
Hello EoN, I always find it interesting when new faces show up that have great knowledge of the game. It’s a shame you didn’t get into civ3 that much. Having played all civ series and having gone through all the transitions to the new version I can see there are always going to be differences that will either attract or repel people from playing the new version. That’s all personal preference. The luck factor is bigger. I must agree with that. But that also creates new insights. Now you have to devise a plan that is going to work out most of the time instead of something that is always going to work. Adapting to different circumstances definitely was more important than in civ2, because of the strategic resources. You say you find teamgames silly. From your point of view I can understand. But as a matter of fact teamgames are very popular because a lot of people like teamplay. A reason I can think of you wouldn’t like teamgames is because you’re not in full control of the situation and dependent on others. Indeed your loss % would be higher in teamgames, I can definitely say that for myself. For example I estimate that at least 60% of my losses are from teamgames, whereas only 30% from all my reports is from teamgames. (currently 1518-364) Now I really think playing teamgames would be a real challenge for you. If you say you’re basically winning most of the games, try to work out strategies and plans where you can win most of your teamgames too. Expand your horizon! Also, this community, the number of people actively playing on the ladder is much larger than with civ2. The attitude of the players is also different than from what I have read abt the civ2 community. Boasting and arrogance for a little while is fine as long as it is well deserved. Don’t overdo it like you the way you started here. You sound like a megalomaniac. But then I also must say “hey, aren’t we all”. It’s why we play this game. I hope I will run into you in a game once I have my copy, and once I have found the time to actively play again. Regards, Cruise
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Post by Sidhe on Oct 28, 2005 7:08:36 GMT -5
You might like to consider the fact that there are no doubt going to be many scenarios in this game that need totally different strategies to play. You may be top of the heap in one scenario and then a new one will quickly supplant it and you'll be back to square one. If it's anything like C3c some scenarios needed a completely different strategy from the ground up. Also the tactics and tricks of the game reached a wide audience very quickly in C3c, partly due to the civ3 forum, studying saves of other players and also the the much larger volunme of players. if you play a future now for example( the current fashionable game) there are a a host of top players who know absolutely everything about them, quirks, bugs and exploits et al, and even the newer players know a great deal. I think your going to find something interesting that'll keep you on your toes, a more level playing field and a much more versatile and evolutionary environment than your used to.
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Post by TheGoddess on Oct 28, 2005 7:46:45 GMT -5
eyes,
Im on PTW every single night looking for a game, how bout you load up that CD and come visit me, I kinda think Im a tad bit above average, might even last about 25 turns against you, whatcha say? Every "God" needs a "Goddess" right? Ill be on tonight from about 6pm-11pm est.
As for the teamgame, its not my cup of tea either, I dont like to share first place, and I really dont like to lose because of anothers failure to play the game competently. Again for the many sub par players, this is a great way to get free advice and ride them coattails.
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Post by StarlightDeath on Oct 28, 2005 9:55:58 GMT -5
I don't have civ3, and after reading some of the strategies around here I don't see the point. Building units stacks of 100 units? Agriculture a must have? Sounds like there are some very unbalancing features in civ3. I knew the unit stack would be, what idiot didn't? They should have known that would be a problem. I also don't like the fact that everyone spams warriors and more expensive units are useless because of the god damn stacks. To me that's not skill. In civ2 you couldn't do that and ZOC meant that you had to control the entire map. Map control was bigger in civ2 and you couldn't just march in with 100 units because in civ2 1 kill and those 100 units were dead. Civ3 is a piece of nuts, plain and simple. Right now I have the early version of CivPTW installed and actually I'm not sure if I even have that. I downloaded civ4, about to see if my computer can handle it. I'll be really surprised if it can, all my specs match what the game requires but I don't think my video card will handle it.
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Post by Cruise on Oct 28, 2005 10:03:55 GMT -5
Please don't impose your opinion as a fact. Making stacks is important, but saying more expensive units are useless is simply bullnuts, to use your terminology.
I agree that it can be boring if it's all about who can make the bigger stack. But other people would claim your style of playing civ2 involving who can make the most cities will win, is boring. Perhaps that's why future scenario is so popular now. A variety of units are useful there. You obviously haven't seen enough of the game to make a fair judgement. It all comes down on personal preference.
Btw, talking about piracy can result in a ban.
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Post by Trayk on Oct 28, 2005 10:06:08 GMT -5
And I guess you don't know who I am but I was god of civilization 2 MP. I don't think you guys have players on here that were so far above everyone else like I was. I feel so blessed by your presence..im suprised you can get your head through the door to this place..sheesh ;D
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Post by StarlightDeath on Oct 28, 2005 10:23:27 GMT -5
It was a tight fit, but I managed.
What else am i supposed to do when they don't offer a demo? What computer company these days does that? They did the same thing with civ3 and for good reason because I downloaded it and I never played it again. Civ 4 could very well be the same way. If they had given me a demo I wouldn't have had to download it. Besides, I don't think it's going to work on my computer anyway. I see no reason to go buy a game that most likely won't even work, and where there is a good chance I'm not going to like it anyway. If I like the game I'll go buy it, just as I bought civilization 1, 2, and gold, and AC.
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Post by daym on Oct 28, 2005 10:45:05 GMT -5
This guy boring everyone else too ... Zzzzzzzz
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Post by Srayman on Oct 28, 2005 10:49:07 GMT -5
hehehe Because I have a 6 year old reputation to maintain and I've spent a long time at the top and I don't like being out of date. I will quit this game if I don't become top again. That's just said ... quit if you don't become top again? Not to say you're not a good player or anything, but that is just poor sportsmanship and being a sour looser. The only way someone is really great is if they continue to strive for the best even if they're not the best naturally. If you're saying that you'll quit if you don't get to the top easily then that just means you can't put the effort or humility into trying to be good when you're not. Meaning that you only succede at the things you're naturally good at. Maybe one of the reason's why you didn't play civ3? And you say civ3 sucked, most likely because you sucked at it. Well hopefully you can play and learn a few things, but I think the biggest thing you need to learn is a bit of humility and good sportsmanship.
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Post by reptile on Oct 28, 2005 11:02:37 GMT -5
Sorry, who is EyesofNight?
Btw, what was the reason Trip left the ladder?
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Post by Sly_time on Oct 28, 2005 11:52:23 GMT -5
well i don't really respond to things like this but i had to...the BS that was flying around from EON is ridculous...if you are truly Omnipotent then you would have evolved with the game and carried on your legend...as far as i can see you are an old washed up star quarterback from high school who is still living in his glory years...or an extinct warlord....u see that commercial on TV about the barbarians out of work...look familiar!!! you make judgments on things you don't even have an understanding of...
As far as your clan bring it...my clan LRP and many others will happily deflate that head of yours...
Bottom line is put up or shut up!!! you remind me of Hulk Hogan should of retired years ago!!!
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Post by TheGoddess on Oct 28, 2005 12:09:32 GMT -5
Eyes,
My offer still stands, I have Civ Play the World, supposedly the same game you have. I am in the lobby everyday and generally play at night. Please come by for a visit. Like I said with all your skill and stuff, I "might" make it to turn 25 without you killing me.
However if you arent gonna play any of these games, then please dont post here. No one wants to hear you talking about how great you think you are when you wont play anyone here.
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Post by StarlightDeath on Oct 28, 2005 12:27:11 GMT -5
I'm not going to waste my time on civ3, I'm here for civ4. A game which doesn't seem to run on my computer. I'm getting a video rendering problem with my prosavage S3 graphics video card so it's probably just too old.
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Post by heroray on Oct 28, 2005 13:13:13 GMT -5
hehehe Because I have a 6 year old reputation to maintain and I've spent a long time at the top and I don't like being out of date. I will quit this game if I don't become top again. No arguements here, You sure do post like a 6 year old. Infact, My 6year old would be impressed by the big words you use. But if you are truely only 6 years old, How could you have been playing back in 1992?
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