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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 27, 2007 12:11:12 GMT -5
Today, the Islams have won a battle agaist the evil western world. A pro-american leader has been assainated in Pakistan. This pleases thier western liberal allys because it hurts Bush and America. They will no dought blame the war in Iraq and western empirialism. Peace and freedom loving people in that area should leave or risk falling victom to the islamic jihad agaisnt the west.
Watching the pictures on TV I can only imagine the liberals that want to see American police cars and busses burning. Who think America's goverment needs to be overthrown in a similar way. These kinda scenes are not as far from happining in the USA as you'de think. Liberals do all they can to incite this type of behavior here. From the Bush assasination movie, to the class/race warfare style politics. They flood this country with illegal alians then tell the illegals that the americans are lazy racist that took all they have from them. This will lead to all kinds of bad stuff.
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Post by TheBadSeed on Dec 27, 2007 16:56:11 GMT -5
That's sad TGS.
This is a horrible tragedy to an amazing person. Benazir Bhutto was a strong voice for moderation and democracy in the near east. She was a living example that the muslim world was changing in the 80's and 90's to be inclusive of women. She was twice elected prime minister of Pakistan, a muslim country.
She was also not perfect. She wasn't a saint, she was a politician. She and her husband were sentenced to 5 years in prison and fined milions for being convicted of accepting bribes from multinational corporations. That sentence was never imposed, as she was in exile at the time. Her leadership was marred throughout by allegations of corruption. in 1996, she went on a self-imposed exile.
She returned this year, and rallied a country on the verge of breakdown from the struggle between modern Islam and extreme Islam. She went back to help, and she was murdered by extremists who hold no value on human life or freedom.
This is a horrible tragedy, for Pakistan, and the world.
It's pathetic, TGS that you use this tragedy as a platform to attack Americans, as you do at all turns. Unless you think that "muslim extremist" and "liberal" are synonyms, thats exactly what you are doing.
Go ahead and respond to each line, as is your m.o., TGS, I dont care, you only reveal to the world that you cant understand complete thoughts, only a few words at a time.
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Post by whiplash on Dec 28, 2007 7:42:15 GMT -5
I don't think American Liberals are delighted by the current events in Pakistan as TGS suggests. Although they will probably portray this as an example of failed Bush foreign policy. Remember, everything that goes wrong is Bush's fault. Pakistan is, and always has been, a screwed up country: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PakistanThe real threat to the world is that the fundamentalists gain control of the country by political means, as has happened in Iran, Lebanon, Sudan, and Syria. 165 million people, sixth largest country on the planet with a nuclear inventory. Bhutto was the primary obstacle to the Islamic extremists. Marsharif is a tightrope walker and appeases the extremists; he will never crack down as Bhutto would have. The elections are scheduled for January 8. Bhutto's party probably does not have enough time to gain popular support for another candidate. Sad day!
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Post by Levi on Dec 28, 2007 8:42:32 GMT -5
The title of this thread is an example of ignorance. People that follow the religion of Islam are Muslims, not Islams.
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Post by whiplash on Dec 28, 2007 9:44:36 GMT -5
Yes, the people are Muslim; the culture/religion is Islam.
Same goes for Asian/Oriental. There are no Oriental people.
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Post by whiplash on Dec 28, 2007 10:30:06 GMT -5
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Post by MMV on Dec 28, 2007 10:47:47 GMT -5
There are no Oriental people. I think you posted this Occidentally.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 28, 2007 11:21:58 GMT -5
You are right TBS. I lashed out in anger here. Lets analize my post line by line so you can see where I was comming from. This statement is true. Islam is in a global war against western civiliation and they did advance there with this attack. When liberals talk about US forien policy and how it has made the world hate us, this is it. They are talking about people like Bhutto who we are suporting all over the world to bring democracy and freedom to oppressed places. They've been saying this long before the Iraq war too. Ok, here I get a little emmotional and launch a very broad attack. The death of Bhutto doesn't please liberals. It doesn't please anyone. However, you will see that people that "hate" Bush and America, see this as good news. They will blame anyone but the islams Here I am wrong too. Peace and freedom loving people should stay and fight for there country. Pakistan is becoming the new front line in the global jihad against the west. This was what I was thinking, but it is wrong to say liberals want this. I guess they would rather see America become a cummunist dictatorship without firing a shot. Again, what I was thinking, but in the end its a broad attack. Ok, here I go over the top too. Liberals don't wanna see riots. There are some that hoped that by putting out a movie showing GW getting assinated, while he was a sitting president, someone would try it. And there are other libs that engage heavily in race/class warfare. But the attack was to broad because not all liberals support this. And its not just liberals that do this. But this is being done and it is very dangerous. But it was wrong of me to blame it all on liberals. Ok liberals.... I'm sorry for the broad attacks. I hope I was able to clear up where I was coming from. I don't think all liberals "hate" Bush, but I know that some do. I don't think all liberals "hate" America, but I know that some do. It was these little groups I was attacking with my big broad strokes, and thats wrong. I do know that some liberals are good ol fashon americans, that love freedom and liberty, and would fight even harder then me defending it.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 28, 2007 21:20:28 GMT -5
The title of this thread is an example of ignorance. People that follow the religion of Islam are Muslims, not Islams. LEVI!!! you came back!!! I knew you couldn't stay away And you layed the SMACK down on me too. I'm gunna go home and refect on your wisdom.
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Post by zzZhenon on Dec 30, 2007 0:36:56 GMT -5
I didn't find out until this morning that Benazir Bhutto was assassinated. I had just watched her on some interview a few weeks ago She was not perfect, but was one of the few voices of reason in her country. "Islams" can't afford to lose leaders like her, there are too few.
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Post by whiplash on Dec 30, 2007 19:46:08 GMT -5
Since when did a "voice of reason" make any impressions on "Islams"?
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Post by zzZhenon on Dec 31, 2007 12:14:19 GMT -5
The middle east really needs to be educated... So sick of these poor uneducated and completely illiterate goatherders and farmers being brainwashed -- no wait not brainwashed because that would imply they have intelligence -- into suicide bombing for spoiled rich muslims, like Osama. Then when it's not some rich muslim, it's one of their educated Mullahs(sp?) fooling them like some southern baptist or made-up-just-last-year denomination christian that tells you God killed your kid in Iraq because we have too many f*gs in the US. /rant
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 31, 2007 14:10:18 GMT -5
The middle east really needs to be educated... So sick of these poor uneducated and completely illiterate goatherders and farmers being brainwashed -- no wait not brainwashed because that would imply they have intelligence -- into suicide bombing for spoiled rich muslims, like Osama. Then when it's not some rich muslim, it's one of their educated Mullahs(sp?) fooling them like some southern baptist or made-up-just-last-year denomination christian that tells you God killed your kid in Iraq because we have too many f*gs in the US. /rant We can't even educate Americans, what makes you think we can educate islams. 400 AD must be defeated if "muslims" wanna exist in the future. Otherwise, the islams in power will drag them into a war that they cannot win. The progress of the human race is like a bus. You either get on and ride, or get run u over. But no wack job religion or goverment will ever stop the "bus" of humanitarian progress.
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Post by marr on Jan 5, 2008 11:26:11 GMT -5
Was it Islamic Terrorists? Sounds like the Terror movement is getting a bad rap for this one.
A democratic Martyr, her family being assisinated years before, think she wanted it this way?
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jan 5, 2008 11:30:55 GMT -5
Was it Islamic Terrorists? Sounds like the Terror movement is getting a bad rap for this one. A democratic Martyr, her family being assisinated years before, think she wanted it this way? I bet she had her list of things to do list of things to do today 1st, go in parade 2nd, make speach 3rd, wave and smile 4th, get assinated to frame terrorist group
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Post by marr on Jan 5, 2008 11:52:38 GMT -5
Not quite, but when you know people are trying to kill you... Not saying Musharif has any point, but it is logical to question her (Courage)
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Post by marr on Jan 5, 2008 11:53:32 GMT -5
Oh, even Benazir Bhutto claimed it would be Musharif who kills her, why would you think then it was a terrorist group?
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Post by thegreatsatan on Jan 5, 2008 14:59:56 GMT -5
Oh, even Benazir Bhutto claimed it would be Musharif who kills her, why would you think then it was a terrorist group? I'm not sure who killed her, but I do bet it was Musharif or a terrorist group. Either way, its a blow to the US forien policy that the left blaims for everything.
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Post by marr on Jan 5, 2008 16:35:13 GMT -5
Maybe the left killed her to blow the US forien policy so they could use it as an example of blame
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Post by marr on Jan 5, 2008 16:37:06 GMT -5
It had to be Musharif, (However thats spelt) Has any other group come forward and laid claim to this? Don't know why I am double posting
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