capitalistpig
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 20, 2007 1:19:18 GMT -5
I am very surprised to you describe recent middle eastern history in that way TBS. That is pretty much how I would have described that particular sequence of events. (which means you are right on the money.) Since the United States under Carter was an excellent example of the glories of socialism, I really would have imagined that the liberals here would see ole Jimmuh as the nobel peace prize winning great leader of the past that he sees himself as, rather than the Nevil Chaimberlainesque wealth redistributing appeaser that he was.
So we are all in agreement that Jimmuh Carter is a douche....... and that he played a major role in creating the biggest problem the world faces today. And yet.... he goes on tv, and criticizes the current leadership, and nobody laughs in his face, and kicks him in the nuts. Which is what should happen whenever he peaks out his front door.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 20, 2007 1:50:39 GMT -5
Message to the new Iranian leader with the funny hat: Look, after I'm elected I'm not gunna fart around like that peanut farmer did. I want those red, white, and blue diplomats home pronto. If you don't do it, Teran will be a cinder. This will be my first act as President. Release the hostages and everything will be cool. Ronald Reagan. thx Mr.Whip and TBS for the history lesson. After readin that, I swear that for atleast a second, I felt what it was like to be smart. Reagan was the man fo sho. good quote whip I admit I was suprised by your views on this TBS, You musta ditched a class or 2 at the re-education center. They found they couldn't re-educate me because I wasn't eductated in the 1st place How does it make you feel when u see JC bashing your country? How does it make you feel when you see your liberal leaders support him? When I saw JC diss GW by turning his back in a seramony a few years back I knew GW was good if a looser hack like JC hated him.
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Post by DrShot on Dec 20, 2007 4:23:00 GMT -5
that is more like a tgs post w/ spell check... WT Holy Double Identity Batman! ...actually I have other suspicions...
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 20, 2007 13:55:52 GMT -5
that is more like a tags post w/ spell check... WT Holy Double Identity Batman! ...actually I have other suspicions... who's got 2 IDs? do u think someone is coping off another forum? Let us know so we can make fun of him. we got ol Sher-Lock Doc on the case
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 20, 2007 14:04:50 GMT -5
so can we conclude from our Iran lesson that allowing Iran to aquire nuke weapons is bad? Can we conclude that there islam goverment will never like america unless of course we become islamic? (even then they'll still hate us)
I hope you're begining to see marr, that not all nations should be allowed to aquire nukes because there goverment is nothing more then a bunch of gangsters that control a country.
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Post by DrShot on Dec 20, 2007 22:12:29 GMT -5
Just like the Borg. The sole goal is assimilation. Nothing less is accepted. Death in the pursuit of said goal is glorified. Sure, I like medi starts in civ, but I dont want to live inthat era now. What do you think would happen if you gave a medi civ a ICBM??
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Post by ordoabchao on Dec 21, 2007 0:06:20 GMT -5
LOL like the CIA just overthrows someone and installs a leader and then a few years later just leave. its great to see all the discussion but lets not forget that all of the things you are arguing over were all created by various activities within the CIA and other intelligence agencies such as Mossad, MI5/6 etc. CIA creation: 1. Osama Bin Laden (wonder why on the FBI's 10 most wanted lists Osama ISN'T being indicted on 9-11??) www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm2. Al - Aqaeda (created like osama to "fight the russians") 3. Saddam's chemical weapons (hand delivered by good ol' Rumsfeld himself) Who woulda thought he would actually use them. 4. Iranian government overthrown by CIA in the 50's. Then, based upon your previous conversation because no one mentioned it, the CIA just gives up control and leaves. I could go on all day, all I'm trying to add to the mix is don't forget that random events, especially those involving power, money, politics, guns, butter, and civ, may not be random after all. BTW, Reagan the "i'll never pick george h.w. bush as my running mate," picked the skull and bones member about 1 week Before (sorry my proof reading has destroyed everything else in my post) getting shot. good thing H.W. was head of CIA just before he was Vice President, because I bet that helped Iranian relations ALOT)
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 21, 2007 0:24:29 GMT -5
LOL like the CIA just overthrows someone and installs a leader and then a few years later just leave. its great to see all the discussion but lets not forget that all of the things you are arguing over were all created by various activities within the CIA and other intelligence agencies such as Mossad, MI5/6 etc. CIA creation: 1. Osama Bin Laden (wonder why on the FBI's 10 most wanted lists Osama ISN'T being indicted on 9-11??) 2. Al - Aqaeda (created like osama to "fight the russians") 3. Saddam's chemical weapons (hand delivered by good ol' Rumsfeld himself) 4. Iranian government overthrown by CIA in the 50's. Then, based upon your previous conversation because no one mentioned it, the CIA just gives up control and leaves. I could go on all day, all I'm trying to add to the mix is don't forget that random events, especially those involving power, money, politics, guns, butter, and civ, may not be random after all. BTW Reagan the "i'll never pick george h.w. bush as my running mate" picked the skull and bones member 1 week after getting shot. good thing H.W. was head of CIA just before he was V.P. I bet that helped Iranian relations ALOT) so I guess this means you are cool with Iran having nukes? All because America is evil and helped make Iran evil? I like to see the mix added too, just don't forget what the crux of the arguement is. Should or shouldn't Iran be allowed (by western nations) to get nuke weapons?
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Post by ordoabchao on Dec 21, 2007 1:36:33 GMT -5
Russia makes 1st nuke shipment to Iran news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071217/ap_on_re_eu/russia_iran_13;_ylt=ApykBvozGLzg3gx_8JdhmT8E1vAIi don't worry about it...if they got them their ICBM technology is still in the gutter and they wouldn't be able to test without us knowing. the moment they used one we could just bomb the hell out of em. their infrastructure wouldn't last long they are alread almost surronded. maybe if both sides weren't predestined to fight over something like our leaders have made us do throughout history, we could actually trade with each other. but instead it seems that people in power think its much better to sacrifice, which wouldn't have anything to do with their death's head religion.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 21, 2007 1:46:46 GMT -5
ok, so you're sayin they can have nukes, but not ICBMs? So them sneeking a nuke into a country and setting it off is no threat? But them shooting one on an ICBM is? You're loosin me.
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Post by DrShot on Dec 21, 2007 4:09:23 GMT -5
BTW, Reagan the "i'll never pick george h.w. bush as my running mate," picked the skull and bones member about 1 week after getting shot. good thing H.W. was head of CIA just before he was Vice President, because I bet that helped Iranian relations ALOT) Like most of what you say you are way off base, often making baseless claims. You say Reagan took on Bush as his VP 1 week after geting shot... That is incredible that a president would go 69 days without a VP More amazing is the story you well tell us about how and why noone knows there was not a VP appointed until Reagan was shot... The only weird thing of note was the way Haig took control until the VP arrived in DC later. You could go further and tell us about some grand conspiracy involving the Hinkle family and Bush family for some convoluted power play for presidency for Bush at the time... The 6th and final shot, as I recall, fired was the (only)one that hit Reagan it was a deflected shot of his limo.
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Post by ordoabchao on Dec 21, 2007 4:34:17 GMT -5
im sorry something i read about 10 years ago isn't ablsolutely perfect for you. i don't spend 20 hours reasearching every thread u boobs post with your left/right idiocy. Bush was picked for V.P. at the very last minute. and it was shortly AFTER he got shot. OMG i apologize all for mis remembering. I'm sorry this little detail bothers you so much dr. shot, but if this is all the grime you can scrape from the inside of my barrel, i'm not sure what constitutes your saying "most times...way off base" nonsense. anyone who reads for more than 5 minutes on everything involved with his getting shot have many questions in the matter. heres a good place to start real dry and boring but filled with a few facts. no conspiracy there but it gives you a good insight into the 3rd day of the republican convention www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3492521.html
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Post by ordoabchao on Dec 21, 2007 4:50:14 GMT -5
maybe if various countries didn't have their troops everywhere, they could guard their own borders and inspect things properly. why don't you explain to me excatly how a surrounded iranian (most likely would end up being a covert intelligence agent anyway) would sneak a nuke into a country? what would this nuke do? would a dirty bomb be any different than leaving 200 million tonnes of D.U. in a country?
and i never said they couldn't have ICBM just that it would be a while till they had a working one. maybe if walmart started selling mini nukes along side their guns, we could all have one heck of a forth of july. don't forget to invite chicken little.
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Post by DrShot on Dec 21, 2007 5:41:49 GMT -5
im sorry something i read about 10 years ago isn't ablsolutely perfect for you. i don't spend 20 hours reasearching every thread u boobs post with your left/right idiocy. Bush was picked for V.P. at the very last minute. and it was shortly AFTER he got shot. OMG i apologize all for mis remembering. I'm sorry this little detail bothers you so much dr. shot, but if this is all the grime you can scrape from the inside of my barrel, i'm not sure what constitutes your saying "most times...way off base" nonsense. anyone who reads for more than 5 minutes on everything involved with his getting shot have many questions in the matter. heres a good place to start real dry and boring but filled with a few facts. no conspiracy there but it gives you a good insight into the 3rd day of the republican convention www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3492521.htmlSo again, Bush was picked for VP 'after' Reagan was shot... ? Who was the VP the first 69 days of Reagan's term. July 16 1980 Following several unsuccessful attempts to reach an accommodation with Gerald Ford, Reagan selects George Bush to be his Vice President. This is nearly eight months. In Rich Bold Text for you, as I believe you need some help here Bush was the VP for over seven and a half MONTHS before Reagan was shot. Yes, Ford was to be Reagan's first choice. To say it was a little detail show us a lot about your lack of comprehension of this topic. Let us take it one step further: " anyone who reads for more than 5 minutes on everything involved with his getting shot have many questions in the matter." Well, alone this makes no sense, but I believe I get your point; tying it into the 'conspiracy' you denoted in your previous post. The 'one little thing' you mention is critical, the crux of your conspiracy. By removing this point, to disprove your statement, your arguement is totally debunked and thus invalidates your theory, as comedic as it is/was. gg <- game over fella.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 21, 2007 10:30:38 GMT -5
im sorry something i read about 10 years ago isn't ablsolutely perfect for you. i don't spend 20 hours reasearching every thread u boobs post with your left/right idiocy. Bush was picked for V.P. at the very last minute. and it was shortly AFTER he got shot. OMG i apologize all for mis remembering. I'm sorry this little detail bothers you so much dr. shot, but if this is all the grime you can scrape from the inside of my barrel, i'm not sure what constitutes your saying "most times...way off base" nonsense. anyone who reads for more than 5 minutes on everything involved with his getting shot have many questions in the matter. heres a good place to start real dry and boring but filled with a few facts. no conspiracy there but it gives you a good insight into the 3rd day of the republican convention www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3492521.htmllol, little detail. Your were sayin that Reagan picked HWB after he got shot because of some NWO conspearacy. If reagan picked HWB before he was shot, well, that kinda makes a huge difference.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 21, 2007 10:41:42 GMT -5
maybe if various countries didn't have their troops everywhere, they could guard their own borders and inspect things properly. why don't you explain to me excatly how a surrounded iranian (most likely would end up being a covert intelligence agent anyway) would sneak a nuke into a country? what would this nuke do? would a dirty bomb be any different than leaving 200 million tonnes of D.U. in a country? and i never said they couldn't have ICBM just that it would be a while till they had a working one. maybe if walmart started selling mini nukes along side their guns, we could all have one heck of a forth of july. don't forget to invite chicken little. Ok, so you are saying its totally cool for Iran to have what ever weapons they wanna have right? From bee be's to the "Earth Killer" H bomb right? I'm trying to figure this out. So you also saying that Iran sneeking a nuke into Israel is no threat? Or sneeking one into America? There president threatins to wipe Israel off the map, is it far fetched to believe they might try that? say "Hi, my name is OrdoabChao, and I believe the Iranian government can have any weapon system they want. I believe they need these weapons to protect themselfs from the evil American empire that is secretly ruled by the Jews out of Israel." This would make it easy for me to figure out where you stand. Just come out and say this so we can have an inteligent debate. I would be more then happy to read why you think Iran or any other rouge government should have these weapons and why it would make the world safer.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 21, 2007 13:11:19 GMT -5
im sorry something i read about 10 years ago isn't ablsolutely perfect for you. i don't spend 20 hours reasearching every thread u boobs post with your left/right idiocy. Bush was picked for V.P. at the very last minute. and it was shortly AFTER he got shot. OMG i apologize all for mis remembering. I'm sorry this little detail bothers you so much dr. shot, but if this is all the grime you can scrape from the inside of my barrel, i'm not sure what constitutes your saying "most times...way off base" nonsense. anyone who reads for more than 5 minutes on everything involved with his getting shot have many questions in the matter. heres a good place to start real dry and boring but filled with a few facts. no conspiracy there but it gives you a good insight into the 3rd day of the republican convention www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3492521.htmlSo again, Bush was picked for VP 'after' Reagan was shot... ? Who was the VP the first 69 days of Reagan's term. July 16 1980 Following several unsuccessful attempts to reach an accommodation with Gerald Ford, Reagan selects George Bush to be his Vice President. This is nearly eight months. In Rich Bold Text for you, as I believe you need some help here Bush was the VP for over seven and a half MONTHS before Reagan was shot. Yes, Ford was to be Reagan's first choice. To say it was a little detail show us a lot about your lack of comprehension of this topic. Let us take it one step further: " anyone who reads for more than 5 minutes on everything involved with his getting shot have many questions in the matter." Well, alone this makes no sense, but I believe I get your point; tying it into the 'conspiracy' you denoted in your previous post. The 'one little thing' you mention is critical, the crux of your conspiracy. By removing this point, to disprove your statement, your arguement is totally debunked and thus invalidates your theory, as comedic as it is/was. gg <- game over fella. Nice SMACK down doc! You set a fine exsample for all of us with your inteligent arguements, good grammer, good spelling, and classy style. I agree, its almost time to bust out the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED banner for this thread. But before we do, we'll need to make sure that all arguements in the thread are clearly won. I'm also learning how to make pics show up
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Post by ordoabchao on Dec 21, 2007 13:32:51 GMT -5
i never said anything about Nwo conspiracy in this post. never said anything about jews either. i changed the word you so elegantly pointed out to its opposite meaning and yet you still post that i said that same thing. RR said he would never pick bushie sr. for VP. at last minute he does. then shortly after he is shot. thats what i am saying. where did i say there is some grand conspiracy in this thread?? where did i ever say once that jews had anything to do with this at all ever in any post i ever wrote?? maybe we could all get together this summer and travel to bohemian grove and ask bushie sr if he had anything to do with it.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 21, 2007 13:36:31 GMT -5
i never said anything about Nwo conspiracy in this post. never said anything about jews either. i changed the word you so elegantly pointed out to its opposite meaning and yet you still post that i said that same thing. RR said he would never pick bushie sr. for VP. at last minute he does. then shortly after he is shot. thats what i am saying. where did i say there is some grand conspiracy in this thread?? where did i ever say once that jews had anything to do with this at all ever in any post i ever wrote?? maybe we could all get together this summer and travel to bohemian grove and ask bushie sr if he had anything to do with it. ok ok, whatever so are u ok with Iran having any weapon system they want or no?
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marr
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Post by marr on Dec 21, 2007 14:01:36 GMT -5
TheGreatSatan Said:
"This would make it easy for me to figure out where you stand. Just come out and say this so we can have an inteligent debate. I would be more then happy to read why you think Iran or any other rouge government should have these weapons and why it would make the world safer."
The assumtion as with the error in thinking is that Iran's nuclear ambitions include a nuclear weapon. Iran wishes to procur a nuclear power plant, a centrifuge and whatever else goes with the whole package to help with Energy and profit.
The Ayatollah of Iran in easy to find quotes has said, 'Oil will not last forever.' Also, selling the oil makes more money then using the oil.
Iran is being monitored by the IAEA. If your problem is with the means of the UNs capacity, then make that argument and any possible solutions and lets debate that. Otherwise, Iran is looking for alternative energies and believes it has found it in the use of nuclear energy.
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