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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 7, 2007 22:38:10 GMT -5
I said: Ultimately socialism fails. Our founding fathers knew this, and tried to create a set of documents that are bulletproof against the spread of this plague. Alas it seems that they underestimated their enemies.
The Bad Seed said: Just thought I'd point out the ridiculousness of that statement. The framework of the constitution was layed out in the 1780's and 1790's. Socialism didnt even arrive as a concept until the late 19th century, nearly 100 years afterword.
This is true, I should have said state run economies instead of socialism. In the end they amount to the same thing. The difference being that socialism is a state run economy that has been voted into place by economic populism. The founding fathers knew that success as a nation hung upon whether or not an individual was free to succeed without burdensome taxation. Socialism is the "CURRENT" enemy of this set of ideals, and I should have made the distinction.
Capitalism and the free market economy also had not emerged as concepts during the framing of the Constitution.
On this point however, you are wrong. True enough, capitalist "theory" did not come about until much later than the writing of the constitution. However capitalism in practice had more or less become the common economic system throughout Europe since the end of Feudalism.
The Corporation was also not a concept at that point, otherwise there might have been rules for corporations thrown in there.
You are likely correct on this point as well, however I doubt very much that the current level of taxation and governmental interference is quite what the Founding Fathers had in mind.
The constitution, in fact, is nearly silent on economic issues, with the exception of taxation issues. Much of our modern economy was invented in the US long after the constitution was framed.
The right to be free of burdensome taxation, and the right to own private property are the fundamentals of our economy. You are talking about all the little rules and amendments that are really irrelevant with regards to the point I was making.
The founders of this country were much more concerned with founding a living democracy that could adapt, change, and thrive through time. They were also concerned that individual liberty was protected to the hilt, and that includes the liberty to be a socialist.
True enough, you do have the liberty to be a socialist, however you do not have the liberty force your socialism on others. Which is exactly what will happen if socialist policies govern America. Socialism is not a religion that you can be practiced in your home or your place of worship without it affecting other people. When you make America a socialist nation, you are then in effect taking away my rights to the fruits of my labor and distributing what is rightfully mine out to other people who you decide need it more than I do.
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 7, 2007 22:50:05 GMT -5
TGS said: After America falls to the Islams, don't think for a second that the Islams will skip Canada. They might ignore you guys for a while but its just because its too cold up there.
Marr said: Why in this present world would Canada fall to "Islam?" We embrace all cultures and religions TGS, we don't 'Smack' them. Our arms are open, our minds are inviting, our government is seperated from most religions, (still have a bit of work to do). How can Islam bring about the Fall of America TGS, what does America have that Islam can take that scares you so much?
All the reasons that you just gave as to why Islam has no reason to destroy Canada, are all things that are true of the United States as well. There is no state religion in the United States, all cultures and religious creeds are welcome here also. And yet, they want to destroy us. Your belief that you will be able to coexist peacefully with radical islam betrays your foolishness. It is thinking like that, that will end with the destruction of your culture and your way of life. Islam hates us BECAUSE of our tolerance, not the other way around. I always laugh when I see liberals defend islam. Liberals believe that Islam hates christianity, and Jews and that they are safe. The reality is that Islam wants to destroy us because they see gay pride parades on CNN. If this nation allows radical Islam to have its way, the liberal fools will be the first to lose their heads to the hooded cowards.
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Post by DrShot on Dec 8, 2007 1:12:47 GMT -5
Lets review this for a moment.TheGreatSaTaN's political litness test (brought to you by... Freedom, without it, life would suck) 1. What is your name??? Quote: Sir Bedevere the Wise The Monty Python reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus [Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 2. What is your quest??? Quote: I seek the Grail The Monty Python reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus [Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 3. What is your favorite color??? Quote: green, no - Blue.... The Monty Python reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus [Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 4. What is the airspeed of a swallow carrying two halves of a coconut??? Quote: African or European? The Monty Python reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus (Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 5. Are you politically on the left or right???Why??? Quote: Smaller gov. less controls. fewer entitlements. less taxation... need I say more? You're a Vulcan? Vulcan's, I believe, were about the 'oneness' as I recall. That would be contradictory to what I have illustrated.[Dr.Shot + ) 6. What do you like the most about the other side??? Quote: The entertainment value If you're saying you liked the rehashed crap out of hollywood, -1,000,000 and a frowny face ((Dr.Shot - 1,000,000)+ ) Not sure what you mean there.
I find the liberal mindset funny. I find their 'genuine' attempts at betterment of everyone distressful, yet the people that follow the tripe in a Jim Jones sort of way ... comical.
I find the inability of most all liberals to entertain the ideas unlike their own: comedic.
I find liberal agenda, dangerous as can be, has a high comedy value.
I also see that Liberals inability to engage in a simple discourse w/o resorting ( time and time again) to personal attacks not only mind-boggling yet COMICAL. 7. What do you hate the most about the other side??? Quote: Emotion based not logical or by reasoning. Most politicians are calculating, sure. This reference is about the commoner of the liberal sort. They seemingly base decisions on how they Feeel with Feeeelings. Thought is rarely involved in the process. Consideration as to how things will happen and results and consequences are seldom thought out.A profesional answer +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) 8. If you could live in any country, what one would you pick??? Quote: One where all the rivers flowed with chocolate and the houses were made of gingerbread... That would rock!! +100 and a [Dr.Shot + (100 + )) 9. If you had your own mercenary army and could declare war on any country on earth, who would you declare war on, and why??? Quote: Mexico. How about the natural resources? We could call it the Mexican Region: not a State not a Territory - this could allow for some real gain of natural resources without interference from .org's and other pos groups. Illegal immigration would be a great deal easier to deal with thereafter, not immediately of course. My hero.... the removal of a corrupt Mexican goverment would do loads for the living standerds there. and +100 (Dr.Shot + (100 + )) 10. How did America become the worlds lone super power??? Quote: Clicked our heels together 3 times. BOOOO This is one of the most important questions on here. This question says loads about where you stand politically. It gives you, one of the strongest Conservatives on here, a chance to blast away. Indubitably this is the most important question. This was the obvious answer as well. The strongest trait the Americans have shown time and again is there tenacity and their willpower. That is to say, we simply willed it to happen and therefore it has( through our actions not by magic, not to alarm or confuse any Socialists(formally known as Liberals). Just like the Wizard said to Dorothy... you have had the power all along... She simply needed to realize so and take action(with conviction, something lacking these days).[Dr.Shot + ) 11. Do you think America should be punished???For what???And what should that punishment be??? Quote: Of course. America has it's snout into every countries business, lets cut off all social and political aid. Stop 'humanitarian support. These countries have governments...why don't they step up and deal. good thinking. Propping up commies is never a good idea +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) 12. What is the best thing about America??? Quote: there is no single best thing, it is a ideal, a concept: the package.
A wishy washy liberal type answer. You gunna preach diversity next? What idea is best?
Exactly. Not being a nation of a single race/creed/religious organ has made the country stronger. Drawing from our diversity has made us great, and something worth dying for yet hated by others.
Would you suggest that we force everyone to conform to one religion? Conform to one mind set. One standard, no room for those that are not of the ONE mold we allow for? You let me know Mouhammed...[Dr.Shot + ) 13. What is the worst thing about America??? Quote: open boarders. Ya, those suck. +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) 14. Do you think the world would be better off if the USSR or the Axis powers became the worlds lone super power??? Quote: Would we be left to our devices, would we be allowed to withdraw our monies from other regions and simply take care of our own interests? Sounds a bit like the Swiss to me... But the Swiss got cool knifes +62 points [Dr.Shot + 62) 15. Would you support a world government???why??? Quote: Communism, fascisms totalitarianism all are bad be they used by a small group, a nation or a so called NWO. I saw the NWO go against the WWE in a SMACK down that was pretty good. I don't remember seeing any commies or fascist. +100 NWO- New World Order = BAD[Dr.Shot + 100 ) Thx for playin Doc Dr.Shot's Score Faces: Points: 2,000,662 Nice math! did you donate the extra 1 million points you scammed me out of to the DNC? ;Drecount- we demand a recoount!
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Post by DrShot on Dec 8, 2007 1:30:13 GMT -5
My wife just informed me that these are just Islamic woman. What a dork, I could never figure out why there was such a big ninja army in the Mid East.
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Post by DustyDragoon on Dec 8, 2007 3:57:02 GMT -5
Ok let me Canadianize this a bit. My oppinion of Canadian Political Parties are as follows. Liberals: Will tell you and promise you the world to get into power and then once in power forget most of it and just put in place what the Conservatives offered.
Conservatives: Make solid "hardcore" promises and actually put them all into action and when they do the country is totally set back because they actually kept most of their promises.
New Democratic Party: If ever put into power (which I doubt) their policies would put us into backruptcy very quickly. All Big companies would move out and all small ones would go tits up.
So "in my oppinion" I don't have much of a choice. Do I vote? Of course. After alot of deliberation over which Party is the least amount of a joke. It does seem to change from year to year and leader to leader.
lol love the retoric from the capitolistpig on how "Big Brother Uncle Sam" protects us. Since when? Please inform me and the rest of Canada when you came to our aid militarily?? You tried to invade us in 1812 but that failed. During WWI and WWII it was Canadian troops that were sent in after American fowl ups hence bringing out the statement your own General Patton made, "Give me American Weapondry, British Officers, and Canadian Soldiers, and I'll take the whole f**king world on.". Beleive me capitolistpig, America would not last long in a war against Canada. Your initial strike would hurt if you caught us off guard, but you better stop for a minute and think, attack Canada who is loved by most of the world, with a country that is hated by most of the world, hmmm wonder what the results would be. Go try your bully concepts on someone else, they don't work here. We have never needed a large army in Canada cause we don't go around telling every one what they need to do in order to be friends with us. When we have needed to fight we have done so with courage and bravery. Alot of the major victories in both WWI and WWII involved the tiny populated country of Canada. Population wise yes, you are bigger than us, we are only 10 percent of the American population. Actual size of country, think we win there in land area. Actual wealth per person, think we are fairly even there. Actual wealth of Country, hmm hard to call since the US still expects reimbursement from other nations for money's spent during WWI and II which most likely they will never retrieve, and Canada for the most part has told them to forget it. All in all you can say what you want about Canada, don't really care, but you tread on the men and women who fight for our country and I'll get in a huff. Might I remind you all, and I do mean all, enlisted personel in the Canadian Forces are there because they chose to be. They volunteered their services. You know the same ones that your military kills once and a while and writes off as an unfortunate accident because some trigger happy jerk don't know how to follow protocal. The same ones that are helping your country fight terrorism in Aghanistan and from what I've read are doing a much better job at it. I fought for Canada and have worked alongside Americans as well as other countries. I have first hand experience as to the kind of work we as Canadians do overseas. I also have witnessed the way Americans treat others overseas and how they are viewed by other countries because of thier actions.
Don't tread On us! and have a nice day eh
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Post by archon on Dec 8, 2007 5:41:20 GMT -5
Um Dusty, with all due respect, what drugs are you on?
Canada has always needed protection whether it be from Britain up to the 1930s or the U.S. from the Ogdensburg Declaration to contemporary times. Not to say we can't 'handle' our own to a certain extent but our security has always been intertwined with an external state...I dare even say depended on. No one can not logically argue agaisnt this and come away claiming a 'debate victory'.
Is Canada cool? Damn straight - best place to live IMHO. Are we depended on the U.S. for economic and security reasons? Oh yeah. However, neither country (U.S. nor Canada) since the 1940s have ever pursued an independant defense policy. We both rely on one another.
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 8, 2007 12:51:33 GMT -5
My wife just informed me that these are just Islamic woman. What a dork, I could never figure out why there was such a big ninja army in the Mid East. LOL
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 8, 2007 13:56:12 GMT -5
Dusty Dragoon said: lol love the retoric from the capitolistpig on how "Big Brother Uncle Sam" protects us. Since when? Please inform me and the rest of Canada when you came to our aid militarily?? Defending Canada has not been necessary, because the United States for the most part keeps the worlds problems bottled up where and when they appear. If you actually believe that sharing a border with the most powerful nation in the history of the world, and being friendly with that nation has no effect at all as to how vulnerable other nations see you, than you are a fool. Dusty Dragoon said: You tried to invade us in 1812 but that failed. True enough, this was back when Canada was still a British colony. The United States was still relying on an army of militia men at this time in history. I dont really see how it has any bearing now however.Dusty Dragoon said: During WWI and WWII it was Canadian troops that were sent in after American fowl ups hence bringing out the statement your own General Patton made, "Give me American Weapondry, British Officers, and Canadian Soldiers, and I'll take the whole f**king world on." He was being magnanimous, and the fact that you cannot see that is kinda humorous. He was trying to foster cooperation between the allies, make them all feel like they had something vital to contribute. Do you really think that without Canada, the US would not have been able to crush the Third Reich? Come on..... really?Dusty Dragoon said: Beleive me capitolistpig, America would not last long in a war against Canada. LOL, I never said that the United States was interested in an invasion of Canada, however, if such a thing were to take place, it would be over very quickly I am sorry to say. Canada's armed forces are not exactly a paragon of might.Dusty Dragoon said: Your initial strike would hurt if you caught us off guard, but you better stop for a minute and think, attack Canada who is loved by most of the world, with a country that is hated by most of the world, hmmm wonder what the results would be. Go try your bully concepts on someone else, they don't work here. We would not NEED to catch you off guard. We could give you a years notice, telling you the date, time and place of our assault, and you would still have no hope of stopping us. You cannot seriously believe that the underfunded undersized Canadian army would be able to "hold off" the greatest military the world has ever seen while the United Nations mobilizes its formidable battlefield prowess. Face it buddy, Canada is safe BECAUSE America is there. If we were your enemy, nobody could save you.Dusty Dragoon said: We have never needed a large army in Canada cause we don't go around telling every one what they need to do in order to be friends with us. When we have needed to fight we have done so with courage and bravery. Alot of the major victories in both WWI and WWII involved the tiny populated country of Canada. What is cracking me up is your apparent belief that without Canadian soldiers, these victories would not have been possible. I am not trying to belittle the courage and bravery of Canada when they have been called upon to honor their alliances. I am just saying that nobody on earth can handle the heat we can bring. Name the strongest nation you can think of besides us, and we could stomp them and 2 of their best buddies at the same time inside of a year. So Canada wouldnt stand a chance.Dusty Dragoon said: Population wise yes, you are bigger than us, we are only 10 percent of the American population. Actual size of country, think we win there in land area. I dont see how land area matters with respect to military power, especially when Canadian land gets more useless the farther north you go, and the difference in size is not so great to begin with. The United States has WAAAAAY more useful land.Dusty Dragoon said: Actual wealth per person, think we are fairly even there. Before you count what the government takes, its fairly close. When you look at NET income however, we dominate.Dusty Dragoon said: Actual wealth of Country, hmm hard to call since the US still expects reimbursement from other nations for money's spent during WWI and II which most likely they will never retrieve, and Canada for the most part has told them to forget it. None of that matters, debts owed to America have no bearing upon our current wealth. The US economy is larger than any two nations you can name put together. California alone has a much larger GNP than Canada. Even our debt is not such a big deal. People have a hard time imagining the kind of money involved when speaking of the national deficit, but in truth, it is a small percentage of our GNP. Its kinda like a running tab, it goes up, it comes down. If we really wanted to, we could pay it off in short order.Dusty Dragoon said: All in all you can say what you want about Canada, don't really care, but you tread on the men and women who fight for our country and I'll get in a huff. I am not saying that Canadians who serve in their nations military are inferior to their counterparts in the States. I am only saying that the Canadian military on a whole could not successfully fight a war against the United States for any significant length of time. It does not mean that your soldiers are less brave or courageous, or less intelligent. I'm not saying that at all. The US is vastly wealthy, and are lingering commitments all over the world have necessitated that we maintain far and away the most powerful military on the planet. Canada has no such need for this kind of armed force, because none would dare to attack the northern neighbor and close friend of the United States.Dusty Dragoon said: Might I remind you all, and I do mean all, enlisted personel in the Canadian Forces are there because they chose to be. They volunteered their services. The US military is also made entirely of volunteers.Dusty Dragoon said: You know the same ones that your military kills once and a while and writes off as an unfortunate accident because some trigger happy jerk don't know how to follow protocal. Canadian soldiers are being killed by Americans in Afghanistan? Consistently?? I think now perhaps you are exaggerating because you are angry.Dusty Dragoon said: The same ones that are helping your country fight terrorism in Aghanistan and from what I've read are doing a much better job at it. I am not surprised that would have read something like that in either Canadian newspapers (who still have patriotism), or American newspapers (who hate their country) for that matter.Dusty Dragoon said: I fought for Canada and have worked alongside Americans as well as other countries. I have first hand experience as to the kind of work we as Canadians do overseas. I also have witnessed the way Americans treat others overseas and how they are viewed by other countries because of thier actions. I served in the US navy, and during that time was part of a SNFM (Standing Naval Forces Medeteranean) cruise showing the Nato flag around the medeteranean. I worked alongside Canadian, German, Spanish, English, Dutch, and Italian crews and their ships. All were competent and capable, but that does not change the fact that the US navy could handle at the same time each and every one of these navies put together.I personally was always courteous and polite when overseas, and I did not personally witness any of my shipmates being anything other than respectful to the locals. I'm not saying I never saw American sailors drunk, merely that they were not specifically impolite to anyone.Don't tread On us! and have a nice day eh
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 8, 2007 14:42:17 GMT -5
My wife just informed me that these are just Islamic woman. What a dork, I could never figure out why there was such a big ninja army in the Mid East. I wonder if the Islams like that show on G4, "Ninja Warrior" Its one of my favorites i was trying to be funny in a lot of the questions doc, Your easily one of the strongest concervitives out here. did you see that capitolistpigs answers beat Dan Quail and Jesus? Its more for fun and to stir up debate. I knew what you ment, for exsample, about the liberal entertainment value. I was just tryin to be funny. Samething with the Volcans. The Volcans are all about logic and reponcablitity. You'll never find a liberal Volcan. I was putting you up there with guys like Spock, and Tovock. Spock, even helped make civ sound bytes. Cheers and my the force be with you
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Post by algore on Dec 8, 2007 20:50:23 GMT -5
1. What is your name??? Al Gore III. 2. What is your quest??? To break the record for the longest book title 3. What is your favorite color??? Red 4. What is the airspeed of a swallow carrying two halves of a coconut??? The good answers have already been given. 5. Are you politically on the left or right???Why??? I am above. Because it is true. 6. What do you like the most about the other side??? Democrats: I like their long-winded double-edged answers because reality isn´t as simple as some want you to believe. Republicans: I like their flexibility in bending religious beliefs, moral values and political intentions to reality. 7. What do you hate the most about the other side??? Democrats: their passion to lacerate themselves Republicans: When they are searching for a new move in the eternal fight against "the other side" they start looking in their own party history first. 8. If you could live in any country, what one would you pick??? The USA of FDR. 9. If you had your own mercenary army and could declare war on any country on earth, who would you declare war on, and why??? First, I would invade the Iran and kill, ..sorry.. liberate every citizen because they live there, then I would invade Israel and kill, ..sorry.. liberate every Jew, because Jews killed Jesus. 10. How did America become the worlds lone super power??? A lucky coincidence, because the USSR collapsed shortly before China ascended to super-power status, which it now has achieved. So therefore the question is not really valid anymore. 11. Do you think America should be punished???For what???And what should that punishment be??? No, how do you want to punish a country anyway? 12. What is the best thing about America??? Diversity 13. What is the worst thing about America??? Recent tendencies to abolish diversity 14. Do you think the world would be better off if the USSR or the Axis powers became the worlds lone super power??? This question is very theoretical, but I guess what you really wanted to say is: "Be glad America is as it is, because it could very well be worse if we wanted to - as bad as these states." So my answer is: You, yes you, I mean YOU especially, already tinker around with mindsets of second- and third-world dictatorships and will bring the country on a way down. 15. Would you support a world government???why??? Yes, if it is a world government established by a common agreement on the similarity of all human beings which at the moment however is far beyond the horizon. If this government can pull its legitimation out of a consensus among men it will make trillions of dollars spent for weapon programs, espionage and administrative structures available for more constructive things.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 9, 2007 14:15:30 GMT -5
TheGreatSaTaN's political litness test (brought to you by... Freedom, without it, life would suck) 1. What is your name??? 0 points and a frowny face the correct answer is your credit card # (Marr + ) 2. What is your quest??? I like this answer. +100 and a happy face (Marr + (100 + )) 3. What is your favorite color??? Ah red, symbolizing valor and hardiness +100 and a extra happy face ;D (Marr + (100 + ;D )) 4. What is the airspeed of a swallow carrying two halves of a coconut??? I guess i'll give ya 100 for this but I don't get it (Marr + 100) 5. Are you politically on the left or right???Why??? I'de like to know what issues you lean to the right on? But, atleast you claim to know where u are at so +100 (Marr + 100) 6. What do you like the most about the other side??? The right is more realistic, they just produce idea's you don't agree with. +100 (Marr + 100) 7. What do you hate the most about the other side??? Thats a brod brush. I wonder what issues make you lean to the center? +100 (Marr + 100) 8. If you could live in any country, what one would you pick??? This one is going in my highlights thread. You would live in the Suddan or North Korea? Atleast till they killed you. I think if you where givin a choice, you would pick better. You get 0 points for not picking a country and a blind guy for thinking all countrys are cool (Marr + ) 9. If you had your own mercenary army and could declare war on any country on earth, who would you declare war on, and why??? Works for me, +100 (Marr + 100) 10. How did America become the worlds lone super power??? Marr, I'm almost as mad at you as I was DrShot. This is an important question that gives you, a liberal, the chance to blast away at america's imperialist past. You get a mad guy , hell, even the little liberal in me is disapointed (Marr + ( + )) 11. Do you think America should be punished???For what???And what should that punishment be??? I'm gunna give you a 1,000,000 point bonus here Marr. Its easy for liberals to blame america for the worlds problems. You seem to think america is not alone in the blame. This means you are not as brainwashed as I might of once thought. (Marr + 1,000,000) 12. What is the best thing about America??? Holy crap, another 1,000,000 for you Marr. Thats the last way I'de guess a liberal would answer this (Marr + (1,000,000) 13. What is the worst thing about America??? Its true this system has its ups and downs. +100 (Marr + 100) 14. Do you think the world would be better off if the USSR or the Axis powers became the worlds lone super power??? Yes, it would of mattered, and never say never. Even the little liberal in me is kinda embarrassed by this answer (Marr + ) I always think about Star Trek with this answer. A fair world wide system, would work for a populas that lives in a global age. +100 (Marr + 100) Thx for playin Marr Heres your totals.... Marr's Totals Faces: ;D Points: 2,000,900
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 9, 2007 18:17:06 GMT -5
TheGreatSaTaN's political litness test (brought to you by... Freedom, without it, life would suck) 1. What is your name??? The Monty Pyrhon reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus [Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 2. What is your quest??? The Monty Pyrhon reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus [Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 3. What is your favorite color??? The Monty Pyrhon reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus [Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 4. What is the airspeed of a swallow carrying two halves of a coconut??? The Monty Pyrhon reference earns you a 1,000,000 point bonus (Dr.Shot + 1,000,000) 5. Are you politically on the left or right???Why??? You're a Volcan? [Dr.Shot + ) 6. What do you like the most about the other side??? If you're saying you liked the rehashed crap out of hollywood, -1,000,000 and a frowny face ((Dr.Shot - 1,000,000)+ ) 7. What do you hate the most about the other side??? A profesional answer +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) 8. If you could live in any country, what one would you pick??? That would rock!! +100 and a ;D [Dr.Shot + (100 + ;D )) 9. If you had your own mercenary army and could declare war on any country on earth, who would you declare war on, and why??? My hero.... the removal of a corupt Mexican goverment would do loads for the living standerds there. and +100 (Dr.Shot + (100 + )) 10. How did America become the worlds lone super power??? BOOOO This is one of the most important questions on here. This question says loads about where you stand politically. It gives you, one of the strongest conservitives on here, a chance to blast away. [Dr.Shot + ) 11. Do you think America should be punished???For what???And what should that punishment be??? good thinking. Proping up commies is never a good idea +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) 12. What is the best thing about America??? A wishy washy liberal type answer. You gunna preach diversity next? What idea is best? [Dr.Shot + ) 13. What is the worst thing about America??? Ya, those suck. +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) 14. Do you think the world would be better off if the USSR or the Axis powers became the worlds lone super power??? But the Swiss got cool nifes +62 points [Dr.Shot + 62) 15. Would you support a world government???why??? I saw the NWO go against the WWE in a SMACK down that was pretty good. I don't remeber seeing any commies or fascist. +100 [Dr.Shot + 100 ) Thx for playin Doc Dr.Shot's Score Faces: ;D Points: 2,000,662 My fellow civvers, I have made an error. Dr.Shot's point total was added wrong by my intern. I have fired this intern and I promise you such errors will not go unpunished. ======================== Dr.Shot's Revised score Faces: ;D Points: 3,000,662 Congrats, your answers are top notch. You made it into the Hall of Fame TOP TEST TAKERS 1. Dr.Shot 2. CapitolistPig 3. Dan Quail 4. Jesus 5. Gandhi 6. George Washington
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 9, 2007 19:22:09 GMT -5
Congrats Dr Shot, I was topping the charts for all of 2 days hehe. I am bitter about it though, cuz he only gave you craploads of points for monty python references. I would have, but when I first started reading the thread, there were already people doing the monty python thing, so I didnt wanna be lame. Not that you are of course ;D
I'm not so sure I agree with all of TGS's chart toppers though, Ghandi was a dirty lib, and so was Jesus. You should have said Adam Smith, and Nicolas Sarkozy (The French Ronald Reagan) hehe.
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Post by DustyDragoon on Dec 9, 2007 21:14:32 GMT -5
Dusty Dragoon said: Beleive me capitolistpig, America would not last long in a war against Canada.
Capitolistpig said: LOL, I never said that the United States was interested in an invasion of Canada, however, if such a thing were to take place, it would be over very quickly I am sorry to say. Canada's armed forces are not exactly a paragon of might.
LOL man you are cracking me up. Quickly like Iraq was, um that was suppose to be 2 weeks I think. Or maybe you'll obliterate us like you did in Vietnam, both countries smaller than Canada and no where near the military resources Canada is able to latch on to. Oh but wait, you might say Vietnam was aided by both the USSR and China. Correct, and what the hell do you think would happen if you attacked Canada. Duh. Not only would they be more than happy to come to our aid, but once you've been set back and you also no longer have the dew line, I'm sure they would be more than happy to continue south. You state you are the most powerful, think you ought to change that to you are the most powerful that brags about it. China I would imagine has more than enough to hold back any American attack. Nuke em, sure and they would send theirs right back at ya. With the attitude you spout it is without a doubt not a wonder that the states are hated as much as they are. Will give you credit on Desert Storm as you did finally manage to push back Sadam after you finally got your choppers off the ground without crashing them. So be my guest and open the doors for your country to be invaded. Attack Canada and say goodbye to the USA. Oh and by the way thanks for all the aid given in WWII. Was sure happy you stepped right up and helped out your neighbours and squashed the Nazi's right off the start. Oh yea, forgot you didn't, you just sat idlely by and watched until you were invaded by Japan. Ooops.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 10, 2007 0:01:34 GMT -5
1. What is your name??? 0 points and a frowny face the correct answer is your credit card # (Al + ) 2. What is your quest??? A noble quest +100 (Al + 100 ) 3. What is your favorite color??? Ah red, symbolizing valor and hardiness +100 and a extra happy face ;D (Al + (100 + ;D )) 4. What is the airspeed of a swallow carrying two halves of a coconut??? nonsence, there are always good answers. These questions are softballs. Even the little liberal in me is suprised Algore coundn't think of something (Al + ) 5. Are you politically on the left or right???Why??? Above huh. I bet. here's a 1,000 points because I did some extra polluting this month and need some carbon credits. (Al + 1,000 ) 6. What do you like the most about the other side??? You mean how they don't take a firm stand so they can't be held to it later? +100 wow, If you expand on this, I'll throw in a few hundred extra bonus points. I guess your a part of this because you claim to be on both sides (Al + 100 ) 7. What do you hate the most about the other side??? you should of expanded on these thoughts, I can't give ya any points for broad open answers that mean nothing Wow, talk about your pointless long-winded answers from the left. The little liberal in me wants to give ya the thumbs up (Al + ) 8. If you could live in any country, what one would you pick??? America totally pollutes and kills the polar bears. Isn't there a jungle you'de rather live in somewhere? 1,000 points for thinking america is best (Al + 1,000 ) 9. If you had your own mercenary army and could declare war on any country on earth, who would you declare war on, and why??? Hmmmmm, mmmmkay. well uh +10 for effort k. (don't taze me bro) (Al + 10 ) 10. How did America become the worlds lone super power??? So you think China is a super power. +100 points for honesty (Al + 100 ) 11. Do you think America should be punished???For what???And what should that punishment be??? I don't know, you tell me. But +1,000 for a strait answer (Al + 1,000 ) 12. What is the best thing about America??? One of America's best qualitys indeed +100 and the little liberal in me wants to throw in another thumbs up (Al + (100 + )) 13. What is the worst thing about America??? Ok, to make a broad statement like that without backing it up earns you 0 points. The little liberal in me is suprised you didn't mention the things fighting against diversity. He really wanted to help (Al + ) 14. Do you think the world would be better off if the USSR or the Axis powers became the worlds lone super power??? I think your sayin that things would be worse if America lost. It was hard to figure out because it was such a long-winded pointless answer +100 (Al + 100 ) 15. Would you support a world government???why??? A warm thought +100 (Al + 100 ) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ thx for playin Al, heres your totals Algore's Final Score Faces: ;D Points: 3,710
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Post by zzZhenon on Dec 10, 2007 1:08:30 GMT -5
I said: Ultimately socialism fails. Our founding fathers knew this, and tried to create a set of documents that are bulletproof against the spread of this plague. Alas it seems that they underestimated their enemies. How did they "know this?" I believe the founding fathers were more against monarchies and nobility. Socialism & communism were just a pipe dream. Pretty much right here, however, there's varying degrees of economic and individual socialism. You can't just say, "Commies bad! Free market good!" You are oversimplifying and generalizing. Not very logical of you. really? where? I also doubt the Founding Fathers had any idea of the economic might they could wield on the country and the world. Corporations need regulation. That's true. I wonder though what would happen if the poor got poorer and the dumb got dumber. Would there be more crime because they covet what others have? A small amount of socialism protects us, I think.
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Post by ordoabchao on Dec 11, 2007 12:57:48 GMT -5
1. OrdoAbChao
2. I seek the knowledge and conversation of my Holy Guardian Angel.
3. Purple
4. With enough LSD its airspeed is whatever u want it to be.
5. I walk in both worlds baby.
6. The gay call boys from conservatives and abortions for everyone from the liberals.
7. Hating is soooooo medieval. Therefore, I refuse to answer this barbaric question.
8. If I could live in ANY country it would be one I RULE. I'll call it Smattville. Population 420. That or Svalbard in the giant seed storing facility.
9. Declaring war is also too medieval. Why couldn't u just kill off some food or bio-engineer some virus like AIDS to wipe people out. Or you could just attack without declaring war like in IRAQ.
10. America became the superpower because if its individual liberty message and flourinshings of the great constitutional republic free from control of the money changers. America's golden age ended in 1913 on the eve of christmas.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out... If people only understood the rank injustice of the money and banking system, there would be a revolution by morning." Andrew Jackson
11. America is already being punished. God/ The Universe finds a way to punsih wickedness. You do bad things to people bad things will be done to you. Live by the sword, die by the sword. So my answer to the question is 'i don't care because in the end they'll get theirs whether or not i punished them myself or wanted them to be punished'
12. The ideals of individual liberty and constitutional republics that it stands for. And also the little amercian flags that get made in China. Those are the best!
13. The fascist bankers and the devils network of evil occult groups like Bohemian grove and Skull and Bones, that descend from germanic death cults like the illuminati, and are in charge of the money supply and all the seats of power in almost all western nations.
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." James Madison
14. The world would defenitely be better off if you were german and the nazi's took over. Probably would work the same if you were Russian and the Russians took over. Good thing the world government will take away nation state sovereignty to declare war.
15. NO. People have enough problems running their own countries. Death by government is number one cause of death since dawn of mankind. Local areas should be solving and running themselves. Pyramidal power is suicide for those on the bottom.
(BTW i wonder where WWE wrestlers would ever come up with an idea like New World Order. Bet they thought that one up all on their own. Go Wolfpack.)
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 13, 2007 15:06:09 GMT -5
0 points and a frowny face the correct answer is your credit card # (Ordo + ) If that angel starts talkin jihad against The Great Satan, leme know so I can file a complaint to his manager. +100 (Ordo + 100 ) purple is such a fruity color 0 points and a tongue face , I was looking for red, white, blue, or a combo of the 3. Black would of also been accepted (Ordo + (100 + )) LSD is some crazy nuts. +100 (Ordo + 100 ) Here's another little diddy for ya Now Daddy didn't like trouble, but if it came along Everyone that knew him knew which side that he'd be on He never was a hero, or this county's shinin' light But you could always find him standing up For what he thought was right He'd say you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything Now we might have been better off or owned a bigger house If Daddy had done more givin' in or a little more backing down But we always had plenty just living his advice Whatever you do today you'll have to sleep with tonight He'd say you've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything Now I know that things are different than they were in Daddy's days But I still believe what makes a man really hasn't changed You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything You've got to be your own man not a puppet on a string Never compromise what's right and uphold your family name You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything (Ordo + ) Whatcha got against gay republicans? Is a gay person not allowed to be republican? I agree that abortions on demand is a bad thing +50 (Ordo + 50 ) so you don't "hate" For everything, there is a season To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn) There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn) And a time for every purpose, under Heaven A time to be born, a time to die A time to plant, a time to reap A time to kill, a time to heal A time to laugh, a time to weep To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn) There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn) And a time for every purpose, under Heaven A time to build up,a time to break down A time to dance, a time to mourn A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn) There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn) And a time for every purpose, under Heaven A time of love, a time of hate A time of war, a time of peace A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing To Everything (Turn, Turn, Turn) There is a season (Turn, Turn, Turn) And a time for every purpose, under Heaven A time to gain, a time to lose A time to rend, a time to sew A time to love, a time to hate A time for peace, I swear it's not too late (Ordo + ) Ok, whatever +100 (Ordo + 100 ) So if you had a ton of military, you'de just sit on it? Like Israel, you'll just watch as your enemeys line up against you. You could do so much, but you would do nothing. Even the little liberal in me is suprised. You could save Iraq from America with your army. You get a skull . Consiter it a free life that you could of saved from slavery and destitution. (Ordo + ) So the 50s wasn't a golden age? The baby boom was just a fluke? America must have all kinds of golden ages. +100 and a cool guy for the cool quote. (Ordo + (100 + )) I like your answer here. Its gunna earn you a 1,000,000 point bonus. Carma is a powerful force and the universe will balance itself. The little liberal in me is impressed as well (Ordo + (1,000,000 + )) A good answer but I guess you rather have Chines slaves making bullets then US flags. +100 (Ordo + 100 ) Hmmmm, I think you give these old school cults a bit to much credit. +100 for a cool quote though (Ordo + 100 ) Would it? Germans could wind up being more hated then Americans. Russians, well, if Stalin coulda killed more he would of. (Ordo + 100 ) You just said Guess you didnt mean it. 0 points for contridiction but a thumbs up for stickin up for the bottom of the pyrmid (Ordo + ) Thx for playin Ordo, heres your score... Ordo final score: Faces: Points: 1,000,850
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Post by capitalistpig on Dec 15, 2007 23:30:19 GMT -5
Dusty Dragoon said: Beleive me capitolistpig, America would not last long in a war against Canada. Capitolistpig said: LOL, I never said that the United States was interested in an invasion of Canada, however, if such a thing were to take place, it would be over very quickly I am sorry to say. Canada's armed forces are not exactly a paragon of might. LOL man you are cracking me up. Quickly like Iraq was, um that was suppose to be 2 weeks I think. Or maybe you'll obliterate us like you did in Vietnam, both countries smaller than Canada and no where near the military resources Canada is able to latch on to. Oh but wait, you might say Vietnam was aided by both the USSR and China. Correct, and what the hell do you think would happen if you attacked Canada. Duh. Not only would they be more than happy to come to our aid, but once you've been set back and you also no longer have the dew line, I'm sure they would be more than happy to continue south. You state you are the most powerful, think you ought to change that to you are the most powerful that brags about it. China I would imagine has more than enough to hold back any American attack. Nuke em, sure and they would send theirs right back at ya. With the attitude you spout it is without a doubt not a wonder that the states are hated as much as they are. Will give you credit on Desert Storm as you did finally manage to push back Sadam after you finally got your choppers off the ground without crashing them. So be my guest and open the doors for your country to be invaded. Attack Canada and say goodbye to the USA. Oh and by the way thanks for all the aid given in WWII. Was sure happy you stepped right up and helped out your neighbours and squashed the Nazi's right off the start. Oh yea, forgot you didn't, you just sat idlely by and watched until you were invaded by Japan. Ooops. I cant even believe I am having this discussion. I cant think of a single person I have ever met other than yourself who would not laugh hysterically at the thought of the United States unsuccessfully waging war on Canada. Its a joke man! You have got to be kidding me!! I dont even know where to start.... but here goes. Your examples of American defeats are weak at best. You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between a conflict between nations, and a guerrilla war with an enemy who refuses to face you. American armed forces have never been beaten in any war. During Vietnam, we consistently crushed the Vietcong each and every time they actually came out of hiding and tried to fight us. The Tet offensive was actually the greatest victory of the war, because the Vietcong thought they could go toe to toe with us out in the open. They learned better. The only war the US Military could not win, was the war of public opinion back in the states. Also their hands were tied as to where to, and how far they could pursue enemy forces. The problem was that we were not "at war" with communist north Vietnam, but rather we were officially just giving military assistance to the republic of South Vietnam. So in almost every clash, we were on the defensive. The enemy was able to choose the time and place of nearly every fight. And yet, in spite of that, the kill ratios were ridiculously in our favor. Between 15 and 20 Vietcong soldiers had to die for every American killed. And they were ambushing us!! OK, now on to Iraq. The Iraqi armed forces were smashed in an amazingly short amount of time in both gulf wars considering how badly they outnumbered us. Iraq's military was about 15 times the size of the Canadian juggernaut that we would have to face in order to take Ottawa. The Iraqi army disintegrated upon contact with the better trained and better equipped United States military. Many ran home and burned their uniforms rather than face American battlefield prowess. Then came the part that for some reason makes you think that our military is not as strong as I know it is. You think that because insurgents in civilian clothes are able to sneak up next to Iraqi roads at midnight and plant bombs with proximity sensors, and then run back into town and pretend to be a rug salesman the next day. You think that means that the US army is weak. Why, because we dont go in and raze the offending town to the ground to make the next town think twice about harboring these bad guys?? That just shows our good intentions. We are not the (no offence TGS) great satan, that they claim we are. Besides, all of this is irrelevant, the Canadian military would not disintegrate and run and hide from us, which is why it would be annihilated if this whole stupid scenario were to be played out. Canada would attempt to defend its major cities, and that is why it would be over fast. There is only one possible outcome, the only thing Canada could change is how long it would take to realize you cant beat us. Do you actually believe for a second that Canada's armed forces could keep US troops from marching through Ottawa?? Or are you saying that you know we would crush the Canadian military, but Canadians everywhere would riot and throw Molotov thingytails at American tanks, until the American public got tired of the whole ordeal and started demanding that we withdraw?? Option two is very likely, but that doesnt mean that you "beat" us. It would be more like the mercy rule, we just got tired of kicking your ass. Your belief that China and the nonexistent Soviet Union (you must not have gotten the memo) are going to pour hundreds of thousands of men, thousands of tanks, and hundreds of aircraft into the defense of Canada is ridiculous. Not only do they not have the capability to maintain and supply an expeditionary force of several hundred thousand men overseas, they would not even have the ability to physically move those soldiers into Canada past the US Navy. The US navy is stronger than the navies of the three most powerful nations you can think of put together. You could take every single ship in every single navy in the world, and you would maybe have half of the aircraft capacity of the US Navy. The largest non American aircraft carrier in the world is Charles De Gaul of the French Navy. It weighs about 50 thousand tons, and holds about 50 aircraft. The United States has 12 Carriers that weigh 105 thousand tons, and carry at least 90 aircraft each. We also have at least as many Amphibious assault ships that weigh almost as much as the De Gaul, and can carry about 25 aircraft each. We have the ability to put 50 thousand Marines wherever we want, whenever we want. Even if (this is a ludicrously big IF) the Canadian army was somehow able to stalemate the US army along the immensely long US Canada border, we could end the stalemate by landing tens of thousands of troops behind your defenses (just like we did to the North Koreans at Inchon). This whole argument is stupid. Not that this is ever going to happen, but if it did, you had better get used to the idea that the US military would control every single city in Canada in less than a month. True enough, you could hide in the vast Canadian wilderness, and draw the whole thing out for a long time, but I would hardly call that beating us. Another thing I want to touch on is China. Everybody is talking about big bad China. China is not a superpower. Most of you dont even seem to know what being a superpower means. In order to be a superpower, you must have the ability to project overwhelming power anywhere in the world. China is what you would call a great regional power. They dont even dominate their neighbors. China couldnt even conquer Taiwan much less Japan or India. Believe me, China knows that they cannot take Taiwan, and fend of the United States. I know this, because they have not done it. You will know when China decides that they are strong enough to not fear us, because the day after, they will try to take control of Taiwan. Until that day, you should know that China is not the big dog you think they are.
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Post by thegreatsatan on Dec 15, 2007 23:44:12 GMT -5
Dusty Dragoon said: Beleive me capitolistpig, America would not last long in a war against Canada. Capitolistpig said: LOL, I never said that the United States was interested in an invasion of Canada, however, if such a thing were to take place, it would be over very quickly I am sorry to say. Canada's armed forces are not exactly a paragon of might. LOL man you are cracking me up. Quickly like Iraq was, um that was suppose to be 2 weeks I think. Or maybe you'll obliterate us like you did in Vietnam, both countries smaller than Canada and no where near the military resources Canada is able to latch on to. Oh but wait, you might say Vietnam was aided by both the USSR and China. Correct, and what the hell do you think would happen if you attacked Canada. Duh. Not only would they be more than happy to come to our aid, but once you've been set back and you also no longer have the dew line, I'm sure they would be more than happy to continue south. You state you are the most powerful, think you ought to change that to you are the most powerful that brags about it. China I would imagine has more than enough to hold back any American attack. Nuke em, sure and they would send theirs right back at ya. With the attitude you spout it is without a doubt not a wonder that the states are hated as much as they are. Will give you credit on Desert Storm as you did finally manage to push back Sadam after you finally got your choppers off the ground without crashing them. So be my guest and open the doors for your country to be invaded. Attack Canada and say goodbye to the USA. Oh and by the way thanks for all the aid given in WWII. Was sure happy you stepped right up and helped out your neighbours and squashed the Nazi's right off the start. Oh yea, forgot you didn't, you just sat idlely by and watched until you were invaded by Japan. Ooops. I cant even believe I am having this discussion. I cant think of a single person I have ever met other than yourself who would not laugh hysterically at the thought of the United States unsuccessfully waging war on Canada. Its a joke man! You have got to be kidding me!! I dont even know where to start.... but here goes. Your examples of American defeats are weak at best. You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between a conflict between nations, and a guerrilla war with an enemy who refuses to face you. American armed forces have never been beaten in any war. During Vietnam, we consistently crushed the Vietcong each and every time they actually came out of hiding and tried to fight us. The Tet offensive was actually the greatest victory of the war, because the Vietcong thought they could go toe to toe with us out in the open. They learned better. The only war the US Military could not win, was the war of public opinion back in the states. Also their hands were tied as to where to, and how far they could pursue enemy forces. The problem was that we were not "at war" with communist north Vietnam, but rather we were officially just giving military assistance to the republic of South Vietnam. So in almost every clash, we were on the defensive. The enemy was able to choose the time and place of nearly every fight. And yet, in spite of that, the kill ratios were ridiculously in our favor. Between 15 and 20 Vietcong soldiers had to die for every American killed. And they were ambushing us!! OK, now on to Iraq. The Iraqi armed forces were smashed in an amazingly short amount of time in both gulf wars considering how badly they outnumbered us. Iraq's military was about 15 times the size of the Canadian juggernaut that we would have to face in order to take Ottawa. The Iraqi army disintegrated upon contact with the better trained and better equipped United States military. Many ran home and burned their uniforms rather than face American battlefield prowess. Then came the part that for some reason makes you think that our military is not as strong as I know it is. You think that because insurgents in civilian clothes are able to sneak up next to Iraqi roads at midnight and plant bombs with proximity sensors, and then run back into town and pretend to be a rug salesman the next day. You think that means that the US army is weak. Why, because we dont go in and raze the offending town to the ground to make the next town think twice about harboring these bad guys?? That just shows our good intentions. We are not the (no offence TGS) great satan, that they claim we are. Besides, all of this is irrelevant, the Canadian military would not disintegrate and run and hide from us, which is why it would be annihilated if this whole stupid scenario were to be played out. Canada would attempt to defend its major cities, and that is why it would be over fast. There is only one possible outcome, the only thing Canada could change is how long it would take to realize you cant beat us. Do you actually believe for a second that Canada's armed forces could keep US troops from marching through Ottawa?? Or are you saying that you know we would crush the Canadian military, but Canadians everywhere would riot and throw Molotov thingytails at American tanks, until the American public got tired of the whole ordeal and started demanding that we withdraw?? Option two is very likely, but that doesnt mean that you "beat" us. It would be more like the mercy rule, we just got tired of kicking your ass. Your belief that China and the nonexistent Soviet Union (you must not have gotten the memo) are going to pour hundreds of thousands of men, thousands of tanks, and hundreds of aircraft into the defense of Canada is ridiculous. Not only do they not have the capability to maintain and supply an expeditionary force of several hundred thousand men overseas, they would not even have the ability to physically move those soldiers into Canada past the US Navy. The US navy is stronger than the navies of the three most powerful nations you can think of put together. You could take every single ship in every single navy in the world, and you would maybe have half of the aircraft capacity of the US Navy. The largest non American aircraft carrier in the world is Charles De Gaul of the French Navy. It weighs about 50 thousand tons, and holds about 50 aircraft. The United States has 12 Carriers that weigh 105 thousand tons, and carry at least 90 aircraft each. We also have at least as many Amphibious assault ships that weigh almost as much as the De Gaul, and can carry about 25 aircraft each. We have the ability to put 50 thousand Marines wherever we want, whenever we want. Even if (this is a ludicrously big IF) the Canadian army was somehow able to stalemate the US army along the immensely long US Canada border, we could end the stalemate by landing tens of thousands of troops behind your defenses (just like we did to the North Koreans at Inchon). This whole argument is stupid. Not that this is ever going to happen, but if it did, you had better get used to the idea that the US military would control every single city in Canada in less than a month. True enough, you could hide in the vast Canadian wilderness, and draw the whole thing out for a long time, but I would hardly call that beating us. Another thing I want to touch on is China. Everybody is talking about big bad China. China is not a superpower. Most of you dont even seem to know what being a superpower means. In order to be a superpower, you must have the ability to project overwhelming power anywhere in the world. China is what you would call a great regional power. They dont even dominate their neighbors. China couldnt even conquer Taiwan much less Japan or India. Believe me, China knows that they cannot take Taiwan, and fend of the United States. I know this, because they have not done it. You will know when China decides that they are strong enough to not fear us, because the day after, they will try to take control of Taiwan. Until that day, you should know that China is not the big dog you think they are. SMACK!!! take that Canada!!
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