[KC]Bopper
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The Knight Who Says 'Giddy-Up!'
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Post by [KC]Bopper on Dec 11, 2007 16:22:51 GMT -5
Hi Lestat, if you want to ping during a game you just type the letter 'p' and then move the cursor to the tile you want the ping to show up on. And you can always turn the sound down if the pings are annoying!
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redphoenix
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Post by redphoenix on Dec 11, 2007 17:11:37 GMT -5
I hope the general public may get this point of view, I withdrew from the CCCAC because the council does not want to use different settings and it really became a dead end to try to have even this kind of small things changed. Let's think a bit more creative and we'll keep this community and CCC better alive. Each time you proposed something in CCCAC we tested it at CCC (UQC Ironman big and small, Classical great plains, 4vs4 TBG separated as far as i can remember......). I'm a bit surprised about what you said red. Creativity is a good thing. Unplayable settings without any kind of test are another. I never asked for UQC ironman, that was all canuck, I didn't want anything to do with that event... I hate uqc, but thats ofcourse just my point of view anyhow. So out of all my suggestions for map variations, you pick the only controversial suggestion, choise of great plains. TBG separated is only thing I achieved to change in the end yes. I don't see how it's unplayable untested settings to simply suggest to go with balanced(could be some other map too, but atleast CHANGE THE MAP FOR ONCE) instead of inland sea for rene? I don't get your point. I only suggest this minor kind of changes for events. I only ask to use different maps for a change, pick whatever events you like, but shift the maps around. Thats the one change I want, to have different maps each time, or atleast to change them more frequently... or even atleast sometimes. Timetable discussion and what events to have in CCC in general is another matter.
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Post by Lestat on Dec 11, 2007 22:13:18 GMT -5
Hi Lestat, if you want to ping during a game you just type the letter 'p' and then move the cursor to the tile you want the ping to show up on. And you can always turn the sound down if the pings are annoying! Thx Bopy
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Post by metallian on Dec 11, 2007 22:43:09 GMT -5
How about we make the occ cton at least a killer cton. like 200 points is given to a player who kills a civ. Lets make unit production an actually strategy in occ for once.
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Post by TheClash on Dec 12, 2007 5:52:29 GMT -5
How about we make the occ cton at least a killer cton. like 200 points is given to a player who kills a civ. Lets make unit production an actually strategy in occ for once. Thats not what most active OCC players want, especially since we got Equal_Map.
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redphoenix
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Post by redphoenix on Dec 12, 2007 8:49:29 GMT -5
How about we make the occ cton at least a killer cton. like 200 points is given to a player who kills a civ. Lets make unit production an actually strategy in occ for once. Thats not what most active OCC players want, especially since we got Equal_Map. It¨s also one of the reasons why others don't play OCC.... something to think about.
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Post by geforced on Dec 12, 2007 8:51:37 GMT -5
"Special: No nukes, Spy missions banned, knights, camels and cataphracts banned."
rofl, is this because me and iron dominated all in 20 turns? although changing our strat lost us the final, this is pretty funny. What next, banning astro in ren? -__-
if you can't beat it, ban it!!
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Post by geforced on Dec 12, 2007 8:56:35 GMT -5
How about we make the occ cton at least a killer cton. like 200 points is given to a player who kills a civ. Lets make unit production an actually strategy in occ for once. yer, i support this, why not play with no city razing? add some depth to a some what basic match
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Post by TheClash on Dec 12, 2007 9:43:45 GMT -5
well, I never see you playing OCC but I always see you posting about OCC. Make it simple so you might be able to understand it : There are players on this ladder who love to play OCC and they play it whether you post or not. The CCC got only 1 OCC cton and 1 OCC teamer !! And those games should be fun to those players who enjoy playing OCC every day in lobby !!! So come and play in lobby OCC and convince all players that your style will be more fun !!!!
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Post by tamijo on Dec 12, 2007 10:01:54 GMT -5
How about we make the occ cton at least a killer cton. like 200 points is given to a player who kills a civ. Lets make unit production an actually strategy in occ for once. I think the idear could work. And play ren teamer with no city razing Ironman on CIV vanila Iceworld mod Killer Cton on future start, on HB_TBG and the 1v1 as UQC In general make a world champ on settings that noone would ever play Or ...na maby not
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axius
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Post by axius on Dec 12, 2007 10:54:00 GMT -5
"Special: No nukes, Spy missions banned, knights, camels and cataphracts banned." rofl, is this because me and iron dominated all in 20 turns? although changing our strat lost us the final, this is pretty funny. What next, banning astro in ren? -__- if you can't beat it, ban it!! No, it's because this event was never meant to consist of nothing but a dumb knight rush from the start without researching or building GNP. Knight was the only unit strong and mobile enough to make it possible. Of course it's beatable - with a similar dumb rush. But what does any of that have to do with OCC? This is not a 2nd Ren teamer, it's a 2nd OCC.
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Post by cryptococcus on Dec 12, 2007 11:42:12 GMT -5
"Special: No nukes, Spy missions banned, knights, camels and cataphracts banned." rofl, is this because me and iron dominated all in 20 turns? although changing our strat lost us the final, this is pretty funny. What next, banning astro in ren? -__- if you can't beat it, ban it!! Nah, let them put in the bans. Knight rushing is not a fun occ, although being able to defend it an win does make sense. However the power graph harldly shows 10 knights. Anyway, I guess if the knight rush isn't banned then just make a spy quick to watch for this. In sum, I slightly agree more with banning knight rush.
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Post by cryptococcus on Dec 12, 2007 11:43:21 GMT -5
"Special: No nukes, Spy missions banned, knights, camels and cataphracts banned." rofl, is this because me and iron dominated all in 20 turns? although changing our strat lost us the final, this is pretty funny. What next, banning astro in ren? -__- if you can't beat it, ban it!! No, it's because this event was never meant to consist of nothing but a dumb knight rush from the start without researching or building GNP. Knight was the only unit strong and mobile enough to make it possible. Of course it's beatable - with a similar dumb rush. But what does any of that have to do with OCC? This is not a 2nd Ren teamer, it's a 2nd OCC. Oops didn't read this first. I think this is a valid point.
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Post by Tony on Dec 13, 2007 9:13:57 GMT -5
Post removed, clash got a little touchy about it
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Post by Lestat on Dec 13, 2007 10:39:10 GMT -5
well, I never see you playing OCC but I always see you posting about OCC. Make it simple so you might be able to understand it : There are players on this ladder who love to play OCC and they play it whether you post or not. The CCC got only 1 OCC cton and 1 OCC teamer !! And those games should be fun to those players who enjoy playing OCC every day in lobby !!! So come and play in lobby OCC and convince all players that your style will be more fun !!!! Yep clash plays OCC everyday therefore owns all things OCC. Shame on anyone that tries to break this 1 dimetional teching technique. This kinda reminds of of the BS open players do where you cant attack for the first 100 turns. Of course geforced wont be able to convince all players his style is more fun, because people that cant handle pressure/war play only OCC. Most of the OCC "active players" are those that got killed at real CIV many many times, so naturally they want to "play" for longer. You know OCC was first played on very tight maps as killer cton, it was very agressive and very fun. Then its got noob-jacked to C4F's islands and now inlandsea, with huge a distance to enermy. Cut a long story short, this translates to no war for X turns and btw ... clash you are not the inventor and protector of all things OCC so please stop pretending you are! Tony talk in your name why and how u are playing OCC. U dont kno why and how im playing OCC. I enyojing in long games and killing in 20 turns is not fun, ask Strepto. Also Im hosting OCC on tbg but woumans like inland sea more. In many oCC games there is some noob who trying to early rush.
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redphoenix
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Post by redphoenix on Dec 13, 2007 11:05:34 GMT -5
I know OCC seems to be the only thing that matters in life to you all posting about it, but how about focus your attention to other things for a moment so we can improve the CCC in general.
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Post by Tony on Dec 13, 2007 11:44:28 GMT -5
This is my exact piont, only noobs rush on turn 20, its not a feasible tactic, when it should be. A good, blanced game, should be all about options, its should be an option to : 1) Sitback and build up, gold, libraries, etc. 2) Rush someone 3) Mixture of the 2 4) etc Also researching millatry techs should result in a war advantage, on these big maps, if for example you get riffle men, by the time they walk to enermy he has tanks, . Its only feasible to attack very late in the game. I'm not saying its fun to kill at turn 20, but when someone of greater skill is playing someone of less skill, then any type of game should allow for this early kill (and reward that player somehow - pionts or let him keep the city). This is the same for any game/sport/thing in real life!
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Post by geforced on Dec 13, 2007 13:08:24 GMT -5
I honestly believe future and modern should be played on warlords, playing bts late era is pure ignorance.
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Post by cryptococcus on Dec 13, 2007 14:23:05 GMT -5
I honestly believe future and modern should be played on warlords, playing bts late era is pure ignorance. Translation= gefi can't make 30 cities anymore I did enjoy it more on warlords as well though.
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Post by metallian on Dec 13, 2007 17:19:14 GMT -5
Can we please make the OCC cton always peace so there is no confusion on what strategy to play. LOL, what tony said is so true any occ regular outside of maybe ebd that steps into a regular game are killed or considered a non factor. I've played a few ctons with these players I generally kill or outscore these players by over a 1000 pts in a regular inland sea cton. Also, why do we have 15 events? I thought the CCC admin team agreed that 15 events was too much.
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